[Q] 4.4 or 4.4.4 Rom

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jcbjoe

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Hey All

Since I'm on a locked boot loader NC1 or ML1 shouldn't matter .. can i install a 4.4.4 or 4.4 rom ? i know i would have to do it thru safestrap but would it be possible ? i thought i could only flash 4.3 touchwiz nothing higher ?

Any help would be nice

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Hey All

Since I'm on a locked boot loader NC1 or ML1 shouldn't matter .. can i install a 4.4.4 or 4.4 rom ? i know i would have to do it thru safestrap but would it be possible ? i thought i could only flash 4.3 touchwiz nothing higher ?

Any help would be nice

Thanks

No, you cannot flash a 4.4.4 or 4.4 ROM. If you are on 4.3 NC1 or ML1, you are restricted to running only 4.3 touchwiz based ROMs through safestrap. Ever since the 4.3 ML1 update, different components of the phone (kernel, bootloader, etc.) are signed with a key which must match in order for the phone to boot up. That is why you are restricted to 4.3 touchwiz ROMs in safestrap. They have to be able to run off the 4.3 stock kernel. A 4.4 touchwiz ROM will not have the same key signature verification as a 4.3 touchwiz ROM. And you are definitely not capable of running any kind of AOSP ROM now that your bootloader is locked.
 

jcbjoe

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No, you cannot flash a 4.4.4 or 4.4 ROM. If you are on 4.3 NC1 or ML1, you are restricted to running only 4.3 touchwiz based ROMs through safestrap. Ever since the 4.3 ML1 update, different components of the phone (kernel, bootloader, etc.) are signed with a key which must match in order for the phone to boot up. That is why you are restricted to 4.3 touchwiz ROMs in safestrap. They have to be able to run off the 4.3 stock kernel. A 4.4 touchwiz ROM will not have the same key signature verification as a 4.3 touchwiz ROM. And you are definitely not capable of running any kind of AOSP ROM now that your bootloader is locked.
Thanks for that reply I needed it.. Next question is why are there services out there that can downgrade the NC1 OR ML1 baseband? They could be scams but I'm just wondering.. Is it just the fact that a device or hacker hasn't found the correct exploit?

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Thanks for that reply I needed it.. Next question is why are there services out there that can downgrade the NC1 OR ML1 baseband? They could be scams but I'm just wondering.. Is it just the fact that a device or hacker hasn't found the correct exploit?

Thanks

You are limited to TW based ROMs, they must be the same version of android. You can ODIN to stock 4.3 and take the 4.4 OTA or KIES
 

DigitalMD

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Thanks for the reply I know I can go back to ML1 then safestrap 4.3 custom rooms.. What is the kies thing.. Will this mess up safestrap?

Kies is Samsungs desktop application for doing OTA updates.Its does the same thing as an OTA or ODIN.
If you want to use safestrap stay on 4.3 until the developers have it all worked out for 4.4 .
 
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Thanks for that reply I needed it.. Next question is why are there services out there that can downgrade the NC1 OR ML1 baseband? They could be scams but I'm just wondering.. Is it just the fact that a device or hacker hasn't found the correct exploit?

Thanks
There is a service that people claim to be able to downgrade the bootloader to 4.1 from 4.3 so you can unlock your bootloader.

I think mobile tech videos does it, and if they offer it then it wouldn't be a scam. Just not sure how much it would cost, or if it'd be worth it to you.

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    Hey All

    Since I'm on a locked boot loader NC1 or ML1 shouldn't matter .. can i install a 4.4.4 or 4.4 rom ? i know i would have to do it thru safestrap but would it be possible ? i thought i could only flash 4.3 touchwiz nothing higher ?

    Any help would be nice

    Thanks

    No, you cannot flash a 4.4.4 or 4.4 ROM. If you are on 4.3 NC1 or ML1, you are restricted to running only 4.3 touchwiz based ROMs through safestrap. Ever since the 4.3 ML1 update, different components of the phone (kernel, bootloader, etc.) are signed with a key which must match in order for the phone to boot up. That is why you are restricted to 4.3 touchwiz ROMs in safestrap. They have to be able to run off the 4.3 stock kernel. A 4.4 touchwiz ROM will not have the same key signature verification as a 4.3 touchwiz ROM. And you are definitely not capable of running any kind of AOSP ROM now that your bootloader is locked.
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    Thanks for the reply I know I can go back to ML1 then safestrap 4.3 custom rooms.. What is the kies thing.. Will this mess up safestrap?

    Kies is Samsungs desktop application for doing OTA updates.Its does the same thing as an OTA or ODIN.
    If you want to use safestrap stay on 4.3 until the developers have it all worked out for 4.4 .