[V4A][IRS][DDC]103 Headphone correction IRS/DDC filters--2016-06-05 5 new HiFi models

flither · Apr 9, 2015

Joe0Bloggs said:
I've bought a pair of Soundmagic E10 from mp4nation. Thanks to everyone who donated, and those who donated with a view to getting a better profile for the E10. Now to wait for them to arrive so I can listen to and tune them

I'm still very busy and may not have time to take up other requests, unfortunately. I am also finding that it is better if I have the earphones in question myself, to test and confirm any DDC or IRS produced.

There are also quite a few profiles for Chinese earphones produced without announcement. You may browse my dropbox to see if there's something I didn't announce that happens to be there

Good to hear that

Hope you gonna make a good DDC which will satisfy all E10 users, because this phones can do a lot. Pay attention to 5500Hz and especially 8200Hz, hope you gonna spot them too

I personally don't need a DDC as I managed to tune E10's to even more impossibly ultimate sound now, crazy s**t for couple of bucks I would say. Of course Viper helps a lot.
And I hope you gonna receive genuine pair of this phones, they've been counterfeited a lot

Anyway I'm eagerly waiting for your results with them :good:

goila · Apr 10, 2015

vmoda m100

vmoda m100 (with XL Memory Cushions) v4a profile. i use it with the pure audio engine on nexus 6.
recommended fauxsound setting: +6 dB

jmxc23 · Apr 10, 2015

goila said:
vmoda m100 v4a profile:

Is this a profile or a DDC file? If this is a profile then this isn't the place to share it.

muktheo · Apr 10, 2015

Please someone make a profile for Xiaomi Piston 3 IEM

thank youu

Sent From OnePlusOne

FlatOutRU · Apr 11, 2015

Hi there my friends! Can some1 make a profile for Phiaton MS200 moderna headphones? Here the link on golden ears: http://en.goldenears.net/27340 . I do enjoy they sound with plugged into my PC`s creative x-fi soundcard (crystalizer) or with viper`s convolier( x-fi 44k z edition only crystalizer 5).
Mostly i listen to rock/metall/electro music. My sound taste is sennheiser hd 598 and audio-technika

speedyd718 · Apr 13, 2015

Thanks to @Joe0Bloggs for this thread. I was able to make a DDC for my Shure SE535 IEM's that really improved my listening experience. I used the headphone frequency response chart on Innerfidelity, along with the Harman Target Frequency Response Curve information.

The Harman Target Response is suppose to be the ideal curve, of a headphone's frequency response chart, to produce a neutral sound. So I boosted areas where the SE535 headphone chart was below the Harman targets (basically the suggestions in the article). See the attachments for what I produced (Electri-Q graph and DDC). I'd love to get some feedback on it, but to my ears it sounds amazing. Thanks again.

EDIT - The only other V4A settings I have turned on are the Spectrum Expansion (1.0), and Dynamic System (Common Earphone v2 - 0%). My source is a Note 2 with Boeffla Sound (no enhancements).

flither · Apr 14, 2015

speedyd718 said:
Thanks to @Joe0Bloggs for this thread. I was able to make a DDC for my Shure SE535 IEM's that really improved my listening experience. I used the headphone frequency response chart on Innerfidelity, along with the Harman Target Frequency Response Curve information.

The Harman Target Response is suppose to be the ideal curve, of a headphone's frequency response chart, to produce a neutral sound. So I boosted areas where the SE535 headphone chart was below the Harman targets (basically the suggestions in the article). See the attachments for what I produced (Electri-Q graph and DDC). I'd love to get some feedback on it, but to my ears it sounds amazing. Thanks again.

EDIT - The only other V4A settings I have turned on are the Spectrum Expansion (1.0), and Dynamic System (Common Earphone v2 - 0%). My source is a Note 2 with Boeffla Sound (no enhancements).

Good to see people tuning their headphones on their own, rather than waiting for help from heaven. I tuned my headphones (Soundmagic E10) also by myself, but without using DDC, using just a parametric equalizer and of course Viper. The final effect is more than I could imagine now, but during hours of tests I think I've lost some part of my hearing range (cannot really hear anything above 14000Hz now, 2 years ago it was 18000Hz, but it could be due to temporary ear fatigue or I'm just getting older

). But it was worth it - if you ask me.
Your Viper configuration is quite similar to mine, I just use less of Spectrum Expansion - 0.5, little bit more Dynamic System (Common Earphone v2 - 8%) and additionally Field Surround - Strenght 6, Middle Strenght - Max. Optionally I use Viper Clarity - Ozone 3.5dB.
But trust me - you're not done with tuning yet

flither · Apr 15, 2015

Soundmagic E10 next update

Hi all SM ETenners!

As I said - you're never done with tuning

I've been working hard on achieving even more juice from this God-Sent earphones.
So, read me carefully - I'm closer and closer to juice out our E10 completely, of course with Equal Loudness Curve applied, but little bit reduced.
I noticed that there is an additional frequency to be cut. I didn't even think it has a big impact on the overall sound, but it has. It's around 12000Hz, and needs to be cut by approximately 5-6dB. Use the ArmAmp Player for this.

Settings for ArmAmp Player:
31Hz: width 10Hz, boost by around 2.2dB.
63Hz: width 30Hz, boost around 4-5dB
125Hz: width 40Hz, boost by 1.5 - 2dB
3200Hz: width 3200Hz, boost around 3-4 dB
5550Hz: width 1200Hz, cut by 3.7dB
8200Hz: width 1000Hz, cut by 4 - 4.5dB
12000Hz: width 1200Hz, cut by 5-6 dB

To finalize the sound set this for Viper:
Spectrum Extension - 0.5
Convolver - https://www.dropbox.com/s/5uekkze5e1dxqva/srs_1_1_normal+stereo-flatter.wav
Diffuse Field Surround - Strenght - 6, Middle Image Strenght - Extreme
Dynamic System - Common Earphones v.2, dynamic bass 8%
Optional Viper Clarity - mode Ozone+, boost by 3.5dB

I hope it will be somehow usable for new DDC, or just use ArmAmp Player and try it yourself

RL77LUC · Apr 16, 2015

Hi,

I'm not really good at tuning sound by myself. I was previously using an AKG-Q460 (same as K450) with DDC, it was just great. Unfortunately it died, so I've purchased a Philips SHP8000 (http://www.philips.fr/c-p/SHP8000_10/casque-haute-definition). It's not too bad, but far from K500 w/ DDC quality.

Can anyone make a DDC profile for it ? It would be really appreciated.

Thanks

Joe0Bloggs · Apr 18, 2015

Soundmagic E10 IRS

Long time no see guys :victory: After hiding under a rock for ages my E10 finally came and I profiled them right away :laugh:

I gotta say, they sound nothing like what the innerfidelity graph plotted

I've used the older more compatible IRS format for these:
For 44100Hz systems: https://www.dropbox.com/s/he7ez71ys24e5yt/Soundmagic E10-44k.irs?dl=0
For 48000Hz systems: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pqkup9s5fvdce6b/Soundmagic E10-48k.irs?dl=0
(Check the sample rate of your system by going into V4A, opening the menu and click "driver status" while music is playing through headphones)

(IRS files are easier to make and modify than DDC files)

MAX 94 · Apr 18, 2015

@Joe0Bloggs hi, i've installed prosihofit's version of Electri-Q VST plugin in the Audacity Plugins folder, it works well. But i can't load the *.e-q files you uploaded on dropbox to modify them in order to create a personal version of IRS profiles. When i click "import" on Electri-Q the only supported files are *.xml, *.fxb, *.fxp. So how can i load the *.e-q files? I've tried to rename in xml or the other formats but the VST program says "unsupported presets". Thank you

Joe0Bloggs · Apr 18, 2015

Hello MAX,
To load the .e-q files you click on the word "M" on the lower right inside Electri-Q's own interface and choose the "presets" tab.

MAX 94 · Apr 18, 2015

Joe0Bloggs said:
Hello MAX,
To load the .e-q files you click on the word "M" on the lower right inside Electri-Q's own interface and choose the "presets" tab.

Sorry i'm a noob

But thank you, i searched everywhere

flither · Apr 18, 2015

Joe0Bloggs said:
Long time no see guys :victory: After hiding under a rock for ages my E10 finally came and I profiled them right away :laugh:

I gotta say, they sound nothing like what the innerfidelity graph plotted

I've used the older more compatible IRS format for these:
For 44100Hz systems: https://www.dropbox.com/s/he7ez71ys24e5yt/Soundmagic E10-44k.irs?dl=0
For 48000Hz systems: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pqkup9s5fvdce6b/Soundmagic E10-48k.irs?dl=0
(Check the sample rate of your system by going into V4A, opening the menu and click "driver status" while music is playing through headphones)

(IRS files are easier to make and modify than DDC files)

Haha, it looks almost exactlty like my equalizer correction, just a bit more extreme on cut at 8200Hz and 3000Hz boost! I knew I'm not crazy

Gonna give it a try and report :good:

EDIT: I'm having a hard time making it work. I don't know why but I can switch between different irs's but choosing this and your other irs doesn't give any change in sound, or gives the sound of previously chosen irs. And I think convolver doesn't work as it should, sometimes irs effect stays active even after turning off the convolver.
I deleted all other irs's and left just this one, still giving me the sound of previous random irs though it's only yours left in Kernel folder. Switching on and off worked with wrong sound, but after clearin Viper's data it completely doesn't give any effect.
Any thoughts?

joshuab227 · Apr 19, 2015

The sound magic e10 IRS works perfectly for me. @flither Maybe you could check if you're using the correct frequency one for your phone.

Great work @Joe0Bloggs, its like I just bought a new pair of buds.
Superb sound , very balanced.

flither · Apr 19, 2015

joshuab227 said:
The sound magic e10 IRS works perfectly for me. @flither Maybe you could check if you're using the correct frequency one for your phone.

Great work @Joe0Bloggs, its like I just bought a new pair of buds.
Superb sound , very balanced.

I tried but couldn't make it working unfortunately, but as I said I've got almost the same response made in my player's parametric equalizer before, but with little bit less 3000Hz boost (+4.2dB), and less 8000Hz cut (-3.2dB). So I'm already using these settings for a couple of months already (modified from time to time). That's why I tried to give my knowledge to you guys, as it sounds cosmic to me

Joe0Bloggs · Apr 19, 2015

flither said:
Haha, it looks almost exactlty like my equalizer correction, just a bit more extreme on cut at 8200Hz and 3000Hz boost! I knew I'm not crazy Gonna give it a try and report :good:

EDIT: I'm having a hard time making it work. I don't know why but I can switch between different irs's but choosing this and your other irs doesn't give any change in sound, or gives the sound of previously chosen irs. And I think convolver doesn't work as it should, sometimes irs effect stays active even after turning off the convolver.
I deleted all other irs's and left just this one, still giving me the sound of previous random irs though it's only yours left in Kernel folder. Switching on and off worked with wrong sound, but after clearin Viper's data it completely doesn't give any effect.
Any thoughts?

I see--some phones have trouble loading floating-point IRS for some reason. Here's a fixed-point version set for download:
44100Hz: https://www.dropbox.com/s/64pz4wjeiyre81f/Soundmagic E10-fixp-44k.irs?dl=0
48000Hz: https://www.dropbox.com/s/guulagi9w88eo3v/Soundmagic E10-fixp-48k.irs?dl=0

flither · Apr 19, 2015

Joe0Bloggs said:
I see--some phones have trouble loading floating-point IRS for some reason. Here's a fixed-point version set for download:
44100Hz: https://www.dropbox.com/s/64pz4wjeiyre81f/Soundmagic E10-fixp-44k.irs?dl=0
48000Hz: https://www.dropbox.com/s/guulagi9w88eo3v/Soundmagic E10-fixp-48k.irs?dl=0

Now it's working flawlessly :good:
As for the sound, I overall like it, you nailed the problematic frequencies

For my taste just still 2dB too much 3000Hz, or just it's maybe because of the "square boost" you made, in my feeling it eats little too much of other freqs, especially bass. I'm using just the standard 1-point boosts/cuts.
Writing this with SE10's in my ears, and hey - I'm slowly getting used to it! E10's users - grab this IRS until it's free! and don't forget to donate to Joe

Good job, hope I helped a little

Keep up the good work Joe :fingers-crossed:

Trevomader · Apr 19, 2015

Hello guys, sorry for my noobness, is it possible to manually generate a frequency response graph for my headphone, even if its rough or do i need specialized hardware?

flither · Apr 19, 2015

Trevomader said:
Hello guys, sorry for my noobness, is it possible to manually generate a frequency response graph for my headphone, even if its rough or do i need specialized hardware?

The only specialized software (not hardware) you'll need are parametric eq vst, and Audacity for making Impulse Response Samples. I'm not talking about specialized hardware like microphones now, as you'll need your own ears to verify it anyway.
But first you'll need to extensively test your headphones with sinesweeps and find the "spoiling" frequencies.
You can find extensive tutorials all over the web.
Good luck :good:

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