X98 Air III M5C5 with clean stock ROM?

hordarian · Jan 27, 2016

I'm confused. I bought an M5C5 from Gearbest EU warehouse, which arrived today and it's sitting charging quite happily.

I was expecting to have to flash a custom ROM or manually debloat the thing. However out of the box it has a completely blank AOSP type build on it, just with the Google Play Store added.

Android 5.0, build number is V1.00_20151204, kernel version 3.10.2 (December 7th 2015 10:50:43 CST).

I see a couple of other reports of this around other forums. Does anyone know what's going on? More to the point, before I decide whether to flash a custom or not - is there any way of safely dumping this for others more knowledgeable than me to play about with?

hordarian · Jan 28, 2016

I foolishly flashed a custom over the top of this. Other than being rooted, there's no benefit - in fact the stock is better and faster than the customs I've tried (pure Android launcher, no fluff with "reboot to Windows" or phone junk compiled in).

If you have this build, stick with it!

Durete · Jan 28, 2016

I read about this new stock version on my country's forums. Unfortunately nobody has dumped yet this version because I'm very interested.

hordarian · Jan 28, 2016

Durete said:
I read about this new stock version on my country's forums. Unfortunately nobody has dumped yet this version because I'm very interested.

Yeah, I'm an idiot for not doing it. It looks easy to.

Durete · Jan 28, 2016

I'm pretty happy with sikke1's "Debloated" stock rom. You should try it. I don't like neither customized roms based in stock roms for different devices.

hordarian · Jan 28, 2016

I'm using Mireks now. If someone dumps the build that seems to be showing up on new Air IIIs then I'm going straight back to that, it was perfect!

heino69 · Jan 29, 2016

hordarian said:
I'm using Mireks now. If someone dumps the build that seems to be showing up on new Air IIIs then I'm going straight back to that, it was perfect!

I received my M5C5 with clean stock rom yesterday (also from Gearbest Europe store)

1.) I can try to backup this ROM, if you like, but you have to tell me how....
2.) My plan was to flash to mirek V7, but if I understand you correctly, it's better to stay on stock, right?

PS: In fact, the ROM looks ok, the only thing I'm really missing is root!
Till now I can't find a working instruction how to root this stock ROM....

hordarian · Jan 29, 2016

heino69 said:
I received my M5C5 with clean stock rom yesterday (also from Gearbest Europe store)

1.) I can try to backup this ROM, if you like, but you have to tell me how....
2.) My plan was to flash to mirek V7, but if I understand you correctly, it's better to stay on stock, right?

PS: In fact, the ROM looks ok, the only thing I'm really missing is root!
Till now I can't find a working instruction how to root this stock ROM....

(1) It looks like there are a few people that would like the backup

Having not done a partition backup before some digging suggests it requires root or booting from a custom recovery.

This should allow you to root it: http://xdaforums.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096, it might allow a full backup to SD card as well.

(2) I'm always grateful to all of the ROM developers, but it seems in this case (maybe the first time ever!) the stock ROM is absolutely perfect stock Android! It is a better base for anyone to build a custom ROM from than any of the previous ones!

heino69 · Jan 29, 2016

hordarian said:
This should allow you to root it: http://xdaforums.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096, it might allow a full backup to SD card as well.

I know this thread about rooting, but currently I'm waiting for feedback in another (German) forum about this rooting method, which maybe can brick the Air III...

Durete · Jan 29, 2016

I used that method to Root my Air III with Sikke1's "Debloated" Rom and to install Xposed.
I guess is pretty sure to use since the Root zip only add Supersu and binaries to /System.

Durruti77 · Jan 29, 2016

I received my Air III M5C5 from Gearbest three weeks ago, but unfortunately it had the previous bloated Chinese ROM. Although I am very satisfied with Mirek v7, I will be very happy to test this one, if you are able to get it.

heino69 · Jan 29, 2016

Durete said:
I used that method to Root my Air III with Sikke1's "Debloated" Rom and to install Xposed.
I guess is pretty sure to use since the Root zip only add Supersu and binaries to /System.

Right, the one who posted the problem stated that he followed the proposed steps (option 5 - CWM, and T4) but after installing the SU.zip the reboot failed....
I'm not sure if he did something wrong, I just want to be sure not to brick my Air III

If i succeed, what tool to use to make a full backup? Titanium backup pro?

---------- Post added at 02:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:30 PM ----------

OK, I successfully rooted my device

If anyone is really interested to have the clean stock ROM, please help me how to make this backup...

Durete · Jan 29, 2016

I'm really interested, but not sure what should be the next step ...

hordarian · Jan 29, 2016

This looks like a sensible guide: http://androidcreations.weebly.com/how-to-get-android-mounts-and-partition-images.html

And this: http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/7220-how-to-dumping-your-rom-by-adb-raw-nand-dump/

Get the Android SDK on your computer first. Looks like you'll need an SD card as well (there appear to be methods that don't require it but I'm not sure whether they work or not).

Let us know if you're struggling. I can probably put together exact commands for this device based on mine, I'm just distant from it at the moment so might take me a day or two.

guvno · Jan 31, 2016

Durete said:
I read about this new stock version on my country's forums. Unfortunately nobody has dumped yet this version because I'm very interested.

Same here!
I ordered 2 units, one came with an old Teclast ROM full of bloat (so I flashed Mireks v7 ROM) but the other one is clean and fast V1.00_20151204) AnTuTu score is 49887 compared to Mireks v7 rom 48547

Someone please send me some instructions on how to dump it and I will happily upload it somewhere! I would not mind sticking this new Teclast ROM on my other air iii

hordarian · Jan 31, 2016

To do a backup. Assuming you're using Windows. You'll need a MicroSD card of a few GB

Get the latest Intel ADB driver and install it: https://software.intel.com/en-us/an...ion-instructions-for-intel-android-usb-driver
Enable USB debugging on your device (about device, hit build number 7 times to enable developer options, open developer options and tick USB debugging).
Connect device by USB.

Open a command prompt, run the following commands:

Code:

adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/boot | gzip > sdcard/boot.img.gz"
adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/system | gzip > sdcard/system.img.gz"
adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/recovery | gzip > sdcard/recovery.img.gz"
adb pull /sdcard/boot.img.gz
adb pull /sdcard/system.img.gz
adb pull /sdcard/recovery.img.gz

I'm not certain whether the device needs to be rooted first to do this, or whether it's all the required partitions.

Could also pull the entire flash down with the following (needs a substantial SD card!). Not sure this is necessary, and you should 100% do a full factory reset/wipe beforehand or you'll be giving easy access to any data you've got on the device.

Code:

adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 | gzip > /sdcard/mmcblk0.img.gz"
adb pull /sdcard/mmcblk0.img.gz

guvno · Jan 31, 2016

hordarian said:
To do a backup. Assuming you're using Windows. You'll need a MicroSD card of a few GB

Get the latest Intel ADB driver and install it: https://software.intel.com/en-us/an...ion-instructions-for-intel-android-usb-driver
Enable USB debugging on your device (about device, hit build number 7 times to enable developer options, open developer options and tick USB debugging).
Connect device by USB.

Open a command prompt, run the following commands:

Code:

adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/boot | gzip > sdcard/boot.img.gz" adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/system | gzip > sdcard/system.img.gz" adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/recovery | gzip > sdcard/recovery.img.gz" adb pull /sdcard/boot.img.gz adb pull /sdcard/system.img.gz adb pull /sdcard/recovery.img.gz

I'm not certain whether the device needs to be rooted first to do this, or whether it's all the required partitions.

Could also pull the entire flash down with the following (needs a substantial SD card!). Not sure this is necessary, and you should 100% do a full factory reset/wipe beforehand or you'll be giving easy access to any data you've got on the device.

Code:

adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 | gzip > /sdcard/mmcblk0.img.gz" adb pull /sdcard/mmcblk0.img.gz

Thanks Hordarian.

I will give this a go as soon as I can. I'll also upload whatever I'll dump to my google drive and share so you can have a look. Good suggestion to factory reset before I do the dump. The unit is only 3days old and the only thing installed is Antutu and I am logged on , so I will clear this first and then upload. If I do need to root first then I will do that too.

I'll try to do this on Tuesday.

Thanks for the instructions

joo6803 · Feb 1, 2016

Debloated GoogleNow custom roms VS New Stock Rom

Hello,

I too received X98 AIr III with new stock rom. I reflashed my tablet with sikke1 rom to solve the camera problem. (It looks like my x98 might have a defective camera......)

I rooted the sikke1 rom. It works great (well...except the camera).
Sorry. I did not make a back up of stock rom before I flashed.

I am looking forward to having a stock rom back even though I like both roms. Stock rom looked clean (small icons, play store only) and sikke1 rom has large icons (more visible).
Should I go back to stock rom when it is available? I cannot make a choice.....Hmm.

guvno · Feb 1, 2016

hordarian said:
To do a backup. Assuming you're using Windows. You'll need a MicroSD card of a few GB

Get the latest Intel ADB driver and install it: https://software.intel.com/en-us/an...ion-instructions-for-intel-android-usb-driver
Enable USB debugging on your device (about device, hit build number 7 times to enable developer options, open developer options and tick USB debugging).
Connect device by USB.

Open a command prompt, run the following commands:

Code:

adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/boot | gzip > sdcard/boot.img.gz" adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/system | gzip > sdcard/system.img.gz" adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/recovery | gzip > sdcard/recovery.img.gz" adb pull /sdcard/boot.img.gz adb pull /sdcard/system.img.gz adb pull /sdcard/recovery.img.gz

I'm not certain whether the device needs to be rooted first to do this, or whether it's all the required partitions.

Could also pull the entire flash down with the following (needs a substantial SD card!). Not sure this is necessary, and you should 100% do a full factory reset/wipe beforehand or you'll be giving easy access to any data you've got on the device.

Code:

adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 | gzip > /sdcard/mmcblk0.img.gz" adb pull /sdcard/mmcblk0.img.gz

Gave Hordarians instructions a quick try... But I guess this (below) means that I need root as the very first command resulted in the below:

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *
* daemon started successfully *
dd: /dev/block/by-name/boot: Permission denied

---------- Post added at 10:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:24 PM ----------

hordarian said:
To do a backup. Assuming you're using Windows. You'll need a MicroSD card of a few GB

Get the latest Intel ADB driver and install it: https://software.intel.com/en-us/an...ion-instructions-for-intel-android-usb-driver
Enable USB debugging on your device (about device, hit build number 7 times to enable developer options, open developer options and tick USB debugging).
Connect device by USB.

Open a command prompt, run the following commands:

Code:

adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/boot | gzip > sdcard/boot.img.gz" adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/system | gzip > sdcard/system.img.gz" adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/by-name/recovery | gzip > sdcard/recovery.img.gz" adb pull /sdcard/boot.img.gz adb pull /sdcard/system.img.gz adb pull /sdcard/recovery.img.gz

I'm not certain whether the device needs to be rooted first to do this, or whether it's all the required partitions.

Could also pull the entire flash down with the following (needs a substantial SD card!). Not sure this is necessary, and you should 100% do a full factory reset/wipe beforehand or you'll be giving easy access to any data you've got on the device.

Code:

adb shell "dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 | gzip > /sdcard/mmcblk0.img.gz" adb pull /sdcard/mmcblk0.img.gz

Thanks for those instructions Hordarian, but as mentioned, it does look like root is needed and this stock ROM does not have it... So, what is the best (easiest) way of rooting? Is it this:

http://xdaforums.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096

joo6803 · Feb 1, 2016

Root link for original rom

guvno said:
Gave Hordarians instructions a quick try... But I guess this (below) means that I need root as the very first command resulted in the below:

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *
* daemon started successfully *
dd: /dev/block/by-name/boot: Permission denied

---------- Post added at 10:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:24 PM ----------

Thanks for those instructions Hordarian, but as mentioned, it does look like root is needed and this stock ROM does not have it... So, what is the best (easiest) way of rooting? Is it this:

http://xdaforums.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096

Yes. I was able to root the original rom in my tablet using that link. It was fairly easy.

http://xdaforums.com/andr...p-cwm-t2975096

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