Sony Z1 vs iphone5s vs Htc One low light Camera test Shots :D

ashouhdy · Jan 18, 2014

Was playing with the 3 of them today.

All set to auto and focus mode face detection except the Z1 focus set to single autofocus and gonna show you all why in the end of the thread.

All photos will be uploaded to flickr in the upcoming ours

Please Share your opinions !

So the sequence of photos is
Iphone 5s
Htc one
Sony z1

Iphone 5s 1/15sec iso 400

Htc one 1/14sec iso 800

Sony 1/10sec iso400

NOW iphone5s duel tone led flash test vs Sony Z1 flash

Sequence is iphone then z1

Iphone 1/16sec iso 80

Sony 1/13sec iso400

Now when focus set to Face detection on the Sony Z1 it detects all faces (as the others did as well ) and thats the result:

Sony was set to Manual mode and all auto just point and shoot.

? what are your thoughts ?!

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ashouhdy · Jan 18, 2014

Sample pics

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yh1lhkpzszap4t8/4i-skzPXVE

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steezc · Jan 18, 2014

Looks pretty good. I'm switching to tmo next week when the Z1S comes out to stores. Ill test my n5 and Z1s later.

ahomad · Jan 18, 2014

(Sony was set to Manual mode and all auto just point and shoot) for all images or just the last one?

mm79k · Jan 18, 2014

I just miss my HTC One!

I didn't care about the lighting situation when I wanted to take pics.

Z1 is very good but the HTC was the one for me!

One Twelve · Jan 18, 2014

1st set:
The HTC one picked a higher iso and is overexposed.
The Z1 comes across brighter than the 5s. It has 50% longer shutter.

Between the Z1 & 5s which is the more accurate in terms of lighting ?

2nd set
the 5s flash barely seems to register here. But the ISO jumped from 400 to 80. That's over 2 f-stops. So the shot seems underexposed.
Z1 kept the ISO at 400 and got a similar lighted shot.

3rd set with face detection
I'm not sure what to make of this one ? as it appears the brightest of the lot. iso > 400 & no flash ?

What advantage does face detection have and how well does it work.

The problem with tests like these is that there is a random element that gets in the way. people do not sit still and a little movement causes shake, i'm ignoring that.

Also the 5s allows no manual control whatsoever, whatever 5s decides is the best is what you get.

vVSolidusVv · Jan 18, 2014

And The winner issssssss Honami

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ashouhdy · Jan 18, 2014

Sony shots were all in Manual mode .

The lights were exactly similar to the z1 ... Although i dont know why i like the htc one shot ..something strange in it shows it so natural.

But the purple tint is affecting my friends' phone too. I tried many times and thats was the least tint in all.

Iphone is very underexposing the scene so bad for me. Even htc with the purple/red noise seems better !

And yes me too agree thats the Z1 is the best too. Seems its the best phone after 1020.

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ashouhdy · Jan 18, 2014

One Twelve said:
1st set:
The HTC one picked a higher iso and is overexposed.
The Z1 comes across brighter than the 5s. It has 50% longer shutter.

Between the Z1 & 5s which is the more accurate in terms of lighting ?

2nd set
the 5s flash barely seems to register here. But the ISO jumped from 400 to 80. That's over 2 f-stops. So the shot seems underexposed.
Z1 kept the ISO at 400 and got a similar lighted shot.

3rd set with face detection
I'm not sure what to make of this one ? as it appears the brightest of the lot. iso > 400 & no flash ?

What advantage does face detection have and how well does it work.

The problem with tests like these is that there is a random element that gets in the way. people do not sit still and a little movement causes shake, i'm ignoring that.

Also the 5s allows no manual control whatsoever, whatever 5s decides is the best is what you get.

I would barely see anything in the iphone flash .. Just the coke cans ! While on the z1 its well bright

I guess face detection just raise the EV to expose faces better. Me too cant think of a mechanism rather than this. htc/apple face detection didnt differ with/without detection they just lock focus. While Sony locks focus and change exposure

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One Twelve · Jan 18, 2014

ashouhdy said:
I would barely see anything in the iphone flash .. Just the coke cans ! While on the z1 its well bright.

I meant when you look at the photos, was the lighting as dark as the 5s makes it out to be or as bright as the Z1 portrays it. Or some where in between ?

In this example the 5s & one underperform IMO. This is the problem with this auto business. One day it works well and other times it does not. Cannot say anything conclusive here other than to say in this round the Z1 did the best compared to the others. A few more rounds and it could go either way.

ashouhdy · Jan 18, 2014

One Twelve said:
I meant when you look at the photos, was the lighting as dark as the 5s makes it out to be or as bright as the Z1 portrays it. Or some where in between ?

In this example the 5s & one underperform IMO. This is the problem with this auto business. One day it works well and other times it does not. Cannot say anything conclusive here other than to say in this round the Z1 did the best compared to the others. A few more rounds and it could go either way.

It was exactly as the first z1 shot

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pejakovic1 · Jan 22, 2014

well i'm dissapointed with Z1 camera , i've came across this Z1 vs HTC One camera test which is very detailed and good with bunch of photos and z1 trully sucked

see this:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2542663

chesterr · Jan 22, 2014

Glad you already started it, I actually did the same thing

I will share my Photos then.

First photo is from HTC One HDR Off and the second one is Sony Xperia Z1 HDR On.
1.

2.

Edit:

HTC One HDR

Sony Xperia Z1 HDR Off

Edit:
HTC One HDR is kinda messed up. I am uploading it now and I didn't upload the Sony Xperia Z1 none HDR photo.
Photos from Sony was taken 8MP 16:9 and I used the manual mode cause we all know that Superior auto is really crappy but all the other featurs like ISO and exposure levels are set to auto.

ashouhdy · Jan 22, 2014

pejakovic1 said:
well i'm dissapointed with Z1 camera , i've came across this Z1 vs HTC One camera test which is very detailed and good with bunch of photos and z1 trully sucked

see this:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2542663

all i see in those pics is OVERexposed htc photos and some under exposed (manually set) z1 pics

the htc one got blown sky (highlights) it over expose dark scenes on expense of the already bright one so the results are blown high lights.

the htc one to overcome this issue has taken some of the photos with HDr option ! while some z1 pics is manually set to -1 ev which resulted in some under-exposed (dark) photos.

But for me will take the z1 photos over the htc1 cause i can add exposure to a dark image but i will never get the lost details of the blown up high lights

Just one question: Can u get me a clear view of the blue/sunset sky in the htc photos ?!

ashouhdy · Jan 22, 2014

chesterr said:
Glad you already started it, I actually did the same thing I will share my Photos then.

First photo is from HTC One and the second one is Sony Xperia Z1.
1.View attachment 2532308
2.View attachment 2532310

nice to see the ONE could focus before flash

it was a big issue with me (x-owner of htc1) the one couldn't focus in complete darkness.

the htc1 pic is better white-balanced the z1 screwed up

take it again but keep ur finger away from the flash and be sure all settings are in auto.

chesterr · Jan 22, 2014

And another photos in my dark room, all the lights are switched off.
Only I used flashed and HTC took a while to take the photo approximately 5sec yet Xperia Z1 took it faster.

HTC One HDR off:

HTC One HDR on:

Sony Xperia Z1 HDR off:

Sony Xperia Z1 HDR on:

BTW I bought HTC One for my sister since she became a huge fan after Sensation.
and I don't have the phone now. Both phones are running on 4.3
I think Sony needs some brushing up with the camera department, I don't say it's bad but needs some polishing

I am now uploading the Pics I took from HTC One Sony Xperia Z / Z1 and iPhone 5s. all in the same windy day.
I will share them with you guys in a couple of hours to see how the phones did in the night time, plus it was a windy day and cold.

chesterr · Jan 23, 2014

So as I told you that I have uploaded a lots of photos into my drop box.
Don't blame cause I uploded a lot and didn't really separate it like HDR photos and none HDR.
Well for fact I know that iPhone 5s's flash won't work when you turn on HDR so you'll know which one is HDR of iPhone

You do the judgement and I still think Sony needs some improving in camera department.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g1qx7x2n8ppqwco/EPLjrQKh4w

And according to Josh Xperia Z1s(for T-mobile) camera isn't that great.and it is the same as Z1.
http://youtu.be/ekhkyjiwqtE?t=3m46s

One Twelve · Jan 23, 2014

chesterr said:
Don't blame cause I uploded a lot and didn't really separate it like HDR photos and none HDR.

Unfortunately there is no way to tell them apart for Z1 & HTC one.

I don't understand why you are taking HDR photos indoors. I don't see much improvement at all compared to non-HDR and in some cases even worse as there is blur. Which is to be expected as the dynamic range in a room isn't going to be very high unless you have bright areas mixed in with dark areas by a couple of f-stops at least. There is no benefit to using HDR in this way.

chesterr said:
Well for fact I know that iPhone 5s's flash won't work when you turn on HDR so you'll know which one is HDR of iPhone

good to know.

chesterr said:
You do the judgement and I still think Sony needs some improving in camera department.

This is an ongoing process.

chesterr said:
And according to Josh Xperia Z1s(for T-mobile) camera isn't that great.and it is the same as Z1.
http://youtu.be/ekhkyjiwqtE?t=3m46s

He does not mention whether its SA or manual, though i suspect its SA. Hit & miss.

He does not like 8MP photos as that's the highest you get in 16:9. But 8MP is actually better than 20MP with oversampling. 8MP is good enough for a lot unless you want to make posters. Whatever screen Josh uses cannot display more than 2MP anyway. Or 4MP if he uses a 4k screen.

He mentions losing detail in the dark areas. EV+ required.

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ashouhdy said:
nice to see the ONE could focus before flash it was a big issue with me (x-owner of htc1) the one couldn't focus in complete darkness.

Focus assist light on htc one not working ?

Dark shots will be a problem with focus. Use Fenix LD01, fits on keychain

ashouhdy · Jan 23, 2014

the htc one is the strongest flash i met with 5 levels by the way

and no focus assist light (Hilarious!)

Shan89 · Jan 24, 2014

ashouhdy said:
the htc one is the strongest flash i met with 5 levels by the way and no focus assist light (Hilarious!)

HTC One has focus assist light lol, it didn't on 4.2.2 , it has it since 4.3 came out.

Edit: here few recent pics taken in pitch black.

6th pic ( the cat ) was taken with something similar to what you guys recently got called * defcous macro *

Sony Z1 vs iphone5s vs Htc One low light Camera test Shots :D

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