SUUNTO power clip fits TS

roubroeks · May 21, 2014

Hi,

I noticed that my SUUNTO power clip fits perfectly on the TS also using 4 connecting point. However I do not know how the wiring of the TS is and how it then should be changed on the clip. I think it would be much more practical to use a modified power clip vs the Omate cradle (obviously need to buy an additional SUUNTO power clip to modify). Any ideas?

LeighR · May 22, 2014

Pics? Google brings me to this thread, LOL.

A charger is just 5V and 0V, so it will be simple to modify (if it needs modifying).

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BPM · May 23, 2014

http://www.backcountry.com/suunto-ambit-power-cable-strap
found on google

LeighR · May 23, 2014

You sure that's the right one? It doesn't look like it will fit my TS

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roubroeks · May 24, 2014

Here some pictures

LeighR · May 24, 2014

OK, that looks pretty funky. Yeah I think it would work. If it doesn't, it would be easy to modify

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nlck09 · May 26, 2014

Best way to check is to hook the cable to a charger and check the metal points with a multimeter and do the same thing for the cradle.

LeighR · May 26, 2014

Good idea. OP let us know

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Joost39 · May 28, 2014

Wow can´t wait to hear if it works out for you...

CPGOD · May 31, 2014

Suunto - warning!!

Joost39 said:
Wow can´t wait to hear if it works out for you...

OK - I too was thinking the SUUNTO lead would be a good extra addition, so ordered one off Fleabay.

I used a standard voltmeter to check the connections on the TS cradle (pics will come).
With the clam shell opened to the left, so the 4 contact pins are on the right, the voltages (top to bottom) are: GND, +2.00V, +2.57V, +5V. [This is plugged into a wall plug charger, not PC)

Using the meter on the SUUNTO lead, oriented to reflect the same top to bottom pinout (for me the lead comes out of the right of the plug, and SUUNTO is upside down),
then THE GND AND +5V ARE REVERSED, SO THIS WOULD PROBABLY SHORT THE TS BATTERY/DAMAGE THE WATCH.

Im in the process of hacking the cable, just by cutting open and switching the cables, but initial feedback doesn't show the that the TS is charging.
[I have only swapped GND and 5V, so wonder if the other lower voltages are needed]

I do also see that the SUUNTO clamp pins and TS pads don't line up exactly, and the clamp doesn't hold on very well to the watch....

More updates later.

roubroeks · May 31, 2014

Thanks for sharing this info.

I am currently waiting on the spare SUUNTO cable to arrive to complete the MOD with an USB connector. I agree the SUUNTO clamp is not fixed as tight on the TS as to my Ambit2 watch but it does work and I think it still would be easier to use vs the Omate cradle. Just hope it will charge with the cable.....

death_entry · Jun 3, 2014

roubroeks said:
Thanks for sharing this info.

I am currently waiting on the spare SUUNTO cable to arrive to complete the MOD with an USB connector. I agree the SUUNTO clamp is not fixed as tight on the TS as to my Ambit2 watch but it does work and I think it still would be easier to use vs the Omate cradle. Just hope it will charge with the cable.....

Wasn't this sort of clip what the TS was going to use originally before they moved to the cradle? I don't mind the cradle I just use it with my wireless charger...

roubroeks · Jun 7, 2014

Small update: I reversed to polarity of SUUNTO clip by changing the USB connector to match the 5V +/- of the TS cradle (pin 1 and 4); however the TS does not charge. I assume there is a bit more to it to match the SUUNTO charger cable with the cradle and get TS to charge (I am measuring different resistance in clip and cradle from pin 2 and 3). But unfortunately I am more of a desk jockey and not really technically savvy :silly:
Maybe somebody has more info on the cradle circuit and is able to built the right charger clip. For now the non-ergonomic cradle is the only option for me.

LeighR · Jun 7, 2014

Thanks for your research, I've been waiting for your update.

It wouldn't be complicated to set up a rig to mimic the charger but its more hassle than I can be bothered with and it wouldn't help anyone else because each person would have to buy the Suunto clip and modify it themselves.

If you're going to butcher a piece of hardware, a simpler solution would be to go to poundland and buy a large hair clip and fix it to your cradle, so you can sit the watch in it and clamp it in place.

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roubroeks · Jun 9, 2014

Agree LeighR. Well maybe Omate will re-design the cradle one day to make it more ergonomic so one can eg use the buttons while charging..... but I guess by then we will be buying our next gen wrist-phones with the major manufacturers.

trent999 · Jun 10, 2014

It is a simple thing to do to drill a couple of small holes in the side of the cradle so you can press the buttons with a toothpick. I did that to mine back in February and the cradle is still fine. Of course, be careful and use a small bit, but its not rocket science.

Expecting Omate to redesign the cradle borders on foolishness, in my opinion. After all, if they had cared even a little they could have driiled the holes themselves during manufacturing. They could even have extended the buttons to the outside of the case, too, but they did not.

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LeighR · Jun 11, 2014

trent999 said:
It is a simple thing to do to drill a couple of small holes in the side of the cradle so you can press the buttons with a toothpick. I did that to mine back in February and the cradle is still fine. Of course, be careful and use a small bit, but its not rocket science.

I've drilled holes in mine but it's a crap solution. Actually, I barely use the buttons but the cradle also makes it a pain to use pull down/up menus.

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LeighR · Jul 1, 2014

This kinda works. Its not great but its cheap - £1 for 6 from pound land

Maybe a rubber band would be better

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chiwah · Aug 13, 2014

can anyone confirm these universal chargers would be working if we connect it to the right pin? i am confused whichone to connect..

THESE:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HJAHGXWaL._SY300_.jpg

http://images.shopmadeinchina.com/p...e-Lithium-Battery-Charger-USB_5404046.bak.jpg

CPGOD said:
OK - I too was thinking the SUUNTO lead would be a good extra addition, so ordered one off Fleabay.

I used a standard voltmeter to check the connections on the TS cradle (pics will come).
With the clam shell opened to the left, so the 4 contact pins are on the right, the voltages (top to bottom) are: GND, +2.00V, +2.57V, +5V. [This is plugged into a wall plug charger, not PC)

Using the meter on the SUUNTO lead, oriented to reflect the same top to bottom pinout (for me the lead comes out of the right of the plug, and SUUNTO is upside down),
then THE GND AND +5V ARE REVERSED, SO THIS WOULD PROBABLY SHORT THE TS BATTERY/DAMAGE THE WATCH.

Im in the process of hacking the cable, just by cutting open and switching the cables, but initial feedback doesn't show the that the TS is charging.
[I have only swapped GND and 5V, so wonder if the other lower voltages are needed]

I do also see that the SUUNTO clamp pins and TS pads don't line up exactly, and the clamp doesn't hold on very well to the watch....

More updates later.

CPGOD · Aug 13, 2014

chiwah said:
can anyone confirm these universal chargers would be working if we connect it to the right pin? i am confused whichone to connect..

THESE:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HJAHGXWaL._SY300_.jpg

http://images.shopmadeinchina.com/p...e-Lithium-Battery-Charger-USB_5404046.bak.jpg

Ignore any of my reference to needing to supply power to the middle two pins - I was wrong.

I have now got the SUUNTO clip working with just 0V and +5V to the outside pins - its all about lining them up properly!

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