And where are these old sims? Like I asked a few pages back, what older phones (like my Droid X) have them? I thought Verizon never had such things because it wasn't GSM.
Keeping Unlimited Data?
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All Verizon 4g lte phones use sim cards. The 3g non-lte phones don't. The earlier 4g phones used larger sim cards than the current models do.
I just spoke with a rep to see if I could read the terms and conditions regarding losing unlimited data when you use your upgrade that has unlimited data. She said (after about an hour or so of her digging for the information) , along with the terms and conditions, that the change from unlimited data to a 2gb plan happens when you activate that specific device on your line with unlimited data. So all you have to do is get the phone at the subsidized price, sell it for 650-680 on ebay/craigslist/swappa then buy the phone for full retail. Boom, you have kept your unlimited datathis has to do with the esn that is specific to the device tied in with your upgrade being activated on your line with unlimited data.
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Does anyone have an experience with this? If this is true, then people don't even need to get a second line. They can simply say they are upgrading their line, then when they get the phone, they can sell it and buy a new phone at full retail and activate it to keep the unlimited.
So how does that work? Every time I have used an upgrade they put it on my account right then and I have to sign a new contract and all that. I mean when you use the upgrade you have to re-up on the contract so I am not sure how this works.
Why are we talking about this in a public forum? This is how loopholes get closed. This thread should be trashed and taken to PMs.
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You would have to buy it online I assume, where it doesn't come activated. I am interesting to hear if anyone has done this though.
I wouldnt because I would worry about waking up to a 2GB plan. Its pretty clear that upgrades end unlimited data, and I wouldnt put myself in the position of hoping Verizon didnt catch a mistake, because once the catch it they will audit for anyone who has done it. I hate some of the things Verizon does but if they are going to honor my grandfathered plan I am going to honor their one condition. Lets face it, legally they can change anything at any time and all you would get is a chance to get out of whatever contract you are in. Verizon deserves a lot of credit for honoring these plans. It is the biggest reason Im not with sprint right now, and yes bigger than covetage and network speed issues.
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I wonder if Verizon isn't waiting until next summer since that is 2 years since the killing of upgrades on unlimited accounts. At that time no one with unlimited data will have a contract so then I guess with no contract they can do whatever they want. All the customer can do is leave and I wonder really what percentage would leave over that?
I have a Note 2 and still have over 23 months left on my contract with unlimited data
A contract doesnt mean they wont end your data man, it just means they dont hold you to that contract if they end it. If verizon changes a contract all you get is the option to leave without etf which is the same option off contract customers already have.
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I dont think they will end it until an upgrade cycle somewhere down the line at the earliest...and they may let the plans dwindle away on their own. The way I see the math working out is that if they end it they lose some fraction of customers who want unlimited and see sprint or tmobile as viable options. The extra money they get from the residual who stay (lower data fraction) doesnt compensate for the decreased customer base formerly paying $500 extra or so per upgrade and the bad PR from kiling a gradfathered plan. The only way it should come to a head is if their network is strained, and they already throttle the top 5% to avoid that.
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I was just pointing out that some of us are still under contracts with unlimited data that go beyond 2 years past the day the unlimited plans died.
I posted a thread on how to get around the unlimited data removal when I upgraded to my note 2.
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2I wish there was a way to keep the plan. It's crazy they try to force you off.
My replacement Fascinate is defective with the constant reboots and overheating while charging. I was going to replace under warranty but I dropped it and the screen cracked which they have already tried to blame that for the problems. Assurion wants 99 bucks for a replacement. They keep telling me that my data usage is low. Yeah, my phone dies in 4 hours and crashes most when I use my web browsers.
Prior to that I was using 3-6 gigs a month. LTE + 2gb a month is like getting a Lambo to drive only in a parking garage.1
No, the day before I tried ordering the phone at full price and it kept prompting me to change my data plan. Today it didn't prompt me for full retail, so I tried the upgrade, and that didn't prompt either. So, the contract I signed is to keep my features as is.
edit: spelling1As soon as you get the phone just call verzion from the phone with no data and tell them you want to swap the phones.
You may just need to swap out the sim cards but you can ask the rep when you call.
I used to do this all the time when to get cell phone sales.
BTW why don't you just do a buddy upgrade? Your roommate will still lose his unlimited data but it is less of a hassle.
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I only have 1 line though. I don't think it's worth a 2 year plan just to get unlimited data. I just as well buy phone straight up.
