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luiseteyo

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It's not risky, but you will have an eternal boot after rebooting, and the effect, nowadays is 0. Wait till future android releases, when ART will be improved.
 
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It's not risky, but you will have an eternal boot after rebooting, and the effect, nowadays is 0. Wait till future android releases, when ART will be improved.

I have a nexus 7 2013 and tried an alpja of android 4.4. Experimented with the ART option and my device did boot. Just had an awful lot of force closes. But the performanve difgerence on working apps is very impressive. I ran quadrant and my cpu score doubled
 

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I have a nexus 7 2013 and tried an alpja of android 4.4. Experimented with the ART option and my device did boot. Just had an awful lot of force closes. But the performanve difgerence on working apps is very impressive. I ran quadrant and my cpu score doubled

I don't know. I didn't experience a thing in my n4. I didn't do a benchmark but I am sure it didn't improve.. And yes, whatsapp fc
 

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Next time i have a tinker with aosp 4.4 ill post a screenshot of dalvik vs art. See what people think. Hopefully ART will reolave dalvik completely in the next version of android
 

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At the moment I personally would not use ART over Dalvik, simply because even Google does not consider it ready for primetime yet.
I know, that normally doesn't mean much given the amount of tinkering we are doing with out phones, but on something this integral to the OS, I would wait until the original developers consider it stable, and once the app devs can have a crack at it.
 

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For those who have tested, is it normal to have to build the cache/optimizing 60+ apps on each reboot? I'm assuming it's the Gapps that is being affected? Any work around discovered, so far?
 

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For those who have tested, is it normal to have to build the cache/optimizing 60+ apps on each reboot? I'm assuming it's the Gapps that is being affected? Any work around discovered, so far?

normal with ART. itll do that every reboot when using ART. no work around, its supposed to do that. besides youre lucky, i get 120 apps rebuilding their dalvik on every boot.
 
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sgtkwol

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normal with ART. itll do that every reboot when using ART. no work around, its supposed to do that. besides youre lucky, i get 120 apps rebuilding their dalvik on every boot.

Guess I'll wait for better stability (using a Gnex, but Google search for Dalvik vs ART brought me here) before I throw the switch. I don't mind random reboots for bleeding edge, but if they take 5 minutes, it sucks.
 

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Guess I'll wait for better stability (using a Gnex, but Google search for Dalvik vs ART brought me here) before I throw the switch. I don't mind random reboots for bleeding edge, but if they take 5 minutes, it sucks.

i use a custom 4.3 kernel too.. so whatll hapoen is itll get to like app 80 then freeze. ill force reboot it and itll start over. sometimes itll take an hour before it actually finishes, lol. honestly, for now, dalvik is the better of the two. oh, and i miss my gnex, it got stolen 2 months ago :(
 

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normal with ART. itll do that every reboot when using ART. no work around, its supposed to do that. besides youre lucky, i get 120 apps rebuilding their dalvik on every boot.

Guys, my N5 rebuilt the apps the first time I rebooted after activating ART. Since then, I have rebooted a couple of times and the apps have not rebuilt and the runtime is still ART.
Not sure why the behavior is different from phone to phone and it makes me wonder whether I should switch back to Dalvik.
Has anyone experienced any issue after reverting from ART to Dalvik?
 

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Guys, my N5 rebuilt the apps the first time I rebooted after activating ART. Since then, I have rebooted a couple of times and the apps have not rebuilt and the runtime is still ART.
Not sure why the behavior is different from phone to phone and it makes me wonder whether I should switch back to Dalvik.
Has anyone experienced any issue after reverting from ART to Dalvik?

no. i go back and forth frequently, no issues. from what i hear from n5 users, its the same, its not getting rebuilt every boot. but, these are n4's :)
 

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normal with ART. itll do that every reboot when using ART. no work around, its supposed to do that. besides youre lucky, i get 120 apps rebuilding their dalvik on every boot.

Gnome's odexed version fixed this issue, only rebuild cache on first enable of ART. Not every reboot.

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---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:45 PM ----------

Gnome's odexed version fixed this issue, only rebuild cache on first enable of ART. Not every reboot.

There's also an updated pagapps that works for ART and divlak

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---------- Post added at 04:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:54 PM ----------

Gnome's odexed version fixed this issue, only rebuild cache on first enable of ART. Not every reboot.

There's also an update pagapps that works with dalvik and ART.


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I upgraded to Android 4.4 KitKat on my Nexus 4 from here:
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deleted file in flash-all.bat option "-w" to save my apps and settings. A few hours later I decided to try switch to ART. But I got a bootloop. Can I via fastboot mode go back to dalvik?
 

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    It's not risky, but you will have an eternal boot after rebooting, and the effect, nowadays is 0. Wait till future android releases, when ART will be improved.
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    For those who have tested, is it normal to have to build the cache/optimizing 60+ apps on each reboot? I'm assuming it's the Gapps that is being affected? Any work around discovered, so far?

    normal with ART. itll do that every reboot when using ART. no work around, its supposed to do that. besides youre lucky, i get 120 apps rebuilding their dalvik on every boot.