Edit build.prop to enable HSUPA

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phillycreamboy

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Is it possible? Devs could you please lost a tutorial on how to do this? I live in SF where my unlocked Streak gets around 1.5mbps up. Can't loose that ability especially when I will be paying for tethering for the laptop dock which is already highway robbery.

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Is it possible? Devs could you please lost a tutorial on how to do this? I live in SF where my unlocked Streak gets around 1.5mbps up. Can't loose that ability especially when I will be paying for tethering for the laptop dock which is already highway robbery.

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phillycreamboy

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I should have said its regarding the Atrix. I preordered one. I have a streak already and it does have hsupa but hear atrix does not.

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naturefreak85

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I should have said its regarding the Atrix. I preordered one. I have a streak already and it does have hsupa but hear atrix does not.

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Supposedly I read on Howardforums that by changing up the APN to a custom one (with the standard AT&T settings) HSUPA started working on an Inspire 4G I'll test that tomorrow at an AT&T store and be able to state if it works or not. Should it work, that means that chances are that's all we will have to do with the Atrix to get it working.
 

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Date,ConnType,Lat,Lon,Download,Upload,Latency,ServerName,InternalIp,ExternalIp
"2011-02-20 18:15","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",324216,18779,6,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:15","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",286707,15099,1348,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:14","Utms","38.00000","-97.00000",199168,17940,8,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:13","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",420658,25653,8,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:13","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",135197,16088,452,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:12","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",208242,14974,459,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:12","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",244708,18474,455,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:11","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",405405,19849,9,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:11","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",418884,18635,587,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"

Guess I read that wrong before, looks like it is restricted... lame
 

naturefreak85

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Hopefully that trick that supposedly worked on the Inspire 4G will work on the Atrix also, I PM'd Fixter to ask if he could test it on the Atrix, and tomorrow I'll be testing such on the Inspire at my local store. Should be interesting to see if it works.

Date,ConnType,Lat,Lon,Download,Upload,Latency,ServerName,InternalIp,ExternalIp
"2011-02-20 18:15","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",324216,18779,6,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:15","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",286707,15099,1348,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:14","Utms","38.00000","-97.00000",199168,17940,8,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:13","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",420658,25653,8,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:13","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",135197,16088,452,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:12","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",208242,14974,459,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:12","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",244708,18474,455,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:11","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",405405,19849,9,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"
"2011-02-20 18:11","Cell","38.00000","-97.00000",418884,18635,587,"Wichita, KS","10.139.221.33","166.133.14.80"

Guess I read that wrong before, looks like it is restricted... lame
 

naturefreak85

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From my PM's with Fixter he is pulling a peak 1.1 with the Atrix, if he is getting that over a cell radio, (waiting on confirmation that it is with the Custom APN only) that means that he is getting an HSUPA connection, good sign. Will update this post once I get a response.

EDIT: Seems to be that with a custom APN we have faster upload speeds. From the Mobile Tech Review of the Inspire they noticed that when they Tethered they got higher upload speeds, about a 1 meg upload. Since the phones have tethering locked with the standard APN that means that by changing the APN we achieve faster upload speeds. http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/HTC-Inspire-4G.htm
This is the first phone on AT&T to get the mobile Hotspot feature where you can turn the Inspire 4G into a WiFi access point that shares its 4G connection (the iPhone 4 will get this feature via an update on the Inspire’s 2/13/2011 release date). The feature is extremely easy to use and you can set encryption type, name the access point and assign a password. In our tests, we got up to 3Mpbs down and 1Mpbs up with our notebook using the Inspire 4G as its WiFi access point.

This clearly needs further testing, but so far seems promising. It appears to be AT&T has decided for us that we don't NEED faster uploads for the cell phone since we would typically be sending out an MMS or a small attachment from our phones, but with a computer clearly would need faster uploads.
 
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I am very interested to see what speeds you can get with this one. I recently updated the Rom/Kernel/Model on my captivate and have been getting 4mb down 1.2mb up, and was SHOCKED!

I really like the look of the Atrix, but don't want to give up the newfound speed.
 

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I am very interested to see what speeds you can get with this one. I recently updated the Rom/Kernel/Model on my captivate and have been getting 4mb down 1.2mb up, and was SHOCKED!

I really like the look of the Atrix, but don't want to give up the newfound speed.

I'm getting 3-4 Meg downloads on the Atrix, but it is capped at 300k-ish uploads. I'm pretty ok with that.
 

ranova

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It wont be as simple as the Inspire people had it. Inspire is a model variation of the Desire HD, which has full HSUPA support. They used the modem from the DHD on the Inspire.

To my knowledge, there is no Atrix-similar model out with HSUPA enabled... Like the captivate, this wont be a simple editing in the build.prop to enable hsupa... Its written in the modem firmware.

HSUPA is desirable whether you think you need it or not. Higher upload speeds makes the latency go down, so everything is snappier...
 

neer2005

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It wont be as simple as the Inspire people had it. Inspire is a model variation of the Desire HD, which has full HSUPA support. They used the modem from the DHD on the Inspire.

To my knowledge, there is no Atrix-similar model out with HSUPA enabled... Like the captivate, this wont be a simple editing in the build.prop to enable hsupa... Its written in the modem firmware.

HSUPA is desirable whether you think you need it or not. Higher upload speeds makes the latency go down, so everything is snappier...

What about when the normal Atrix comes out?
 

ranova

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What about when the normal Atrix comes out?

If a "generic" atrix comes out (probably in Canada), then yes, we can probably use the modem from that. This is what was done with the Captivate, to enable HSUPA we had to use either the i9000 modem or the Roger's Captivate modem.
 

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If a "generic" atrix comes out (probably in Canada), then yes, we can probably use the modem from that. This is what was done with the Captivate, to enable HSUPA we had to use either the i9000 modem or the Roger's Captivate modem.

Rogers modem had HSUPA disabled. However the modem from the Galaxy S on Bell had HSUPS enabled.


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lunder

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HSUPA

I forget which one, but a carrier in Canada that uses the same frequency as AT&t is getting the Atrix so we should be able to get the modem firmware from that.
 

ApplCobbler

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And how exactly do you guys plan on putting this new radio into the phone, if the bootloader can't be cracked?
 

sdlopez83

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You guys are lucky, unfortunately im only getting 1.0 mbs down and 300 lbs down. I don't get it. Wtf is going on

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    http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-Largest-HSPA-network?p=14283689#post14283689
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    This is the first phone on AT&T to get the mobile Hotspot feature where you can turn the Inspire 4G into a WiFi access point that shares its 4G connection (the iPhone 4 will get this feature via an update on the Inspire’s 2/13/2011 release date). The feature is extremely easy to use and you can set encryption type, name the access point and assign a password. In our tests, we got up to 3Mpbs down and 1Mpbs up with our notebook using the Inspire 4G as its WiFi access point.

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