C6833/c6806/c6802 4g lte & networks explained

Purple_Clouded · Sep 20, 2013

I've already preordered my Sony Xperia ZU from atgsm.com
Although it's backordered right now and I have to wait another week for it to arrive, ( SUCKS because I even got FedEx 2 Day Shipping! ): )
I can POSITIVELY and SURELY CONFIRM that:

C6833 Works on all networks INCLUDING 4G LTE for T-Mobile as this uses BAND 4

C6806 Works on all networks INCLUDING 4G LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T

C6802 Works on all networks EXCLUDING 4G LTE

Hope this clears up any confusion. The International version of the Xperia ZU will work on all networks that have 4G LTE as well EXCEPT AT&T'S, presumably because it does not have the supported band. (I cannot confirm but am 99% sure) The North American (US) version will be slightly cheaper by $20-$50 depending where you order it from. The only true benefit of this (besides saving money of course) is the ability to connect to AT&T's 4G LTE network. Other than that, they are both the same. (EXLCUDING C6802 which does NOT support ANY 4G LTE speeds)

If you don't want to wait until after October 14 like me, go ahead and get the international version. Some websites have good deals and you might be able to get it at an equal price OR cheaper compared to the C6806 if you look wisely and do your research.

Personally, the international version is the way to go if you aren't on AT&T's network because if you ever go somewhere outside of the US, you can still use prepaid phone plans or such and access the internet. For such an amazing device coming with a premium price tag, I'd like to be TRULY mobile with my phone!

PLEASE stay tuned as when my Xperia ZU arrives I'll do a live video of me taking off the Anti-Shatter Film as some of you wish to do so. (Same here) I'll also post up some pictures of the cases I have and screen protectors I'll be using (SPIGEN TEMPERED GLASS COMING SEPT. 30!) and various tests (NOT the usual ones you see of benchmarks and such, but rather more interesting ones like size and everyday practical use)

If you guys have any questions just feel free to ask, we're a community here so let's see what valuable knowledge we can offer!

-Purple_Clouded

LordManhattan · Sep 20, 2013

Correct. The C6833 has octaband LTE support. The bands on the Z Ultra (C6833) are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 20. The big additions here are 2 and 4 which will open up the Z Ultra for broad use on major LTE networks in North America. AT&T have band 17, Verizon use band 13, Sprint use 25/27 and US Cellular operate on 12. Only T-Mobile have stayed ‘open’ on band 4. The other main carriers mentioned do also use bands 2 & 4, the unique bands allow them to lock down devices they sell to their own LTE networks, but 2 and 4 are open.

ewatt74 · Sep 21, 2013

LordManhattan said:
Correct. The C6833 has octaband LTE support. The bands on the Z Ultra (C6833) are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 20. The big additions here are 2 and 4 which will open up the Z Ultra for broad use on major LTE networks in North America. AT&T have band 17, Verizon use band 13, Sprint use 25/27 and US Cellular operate on 12. Only T-Mobile have stayed ‘open’ on band 4. The other main carriers mentioned do also use bands 2 & 4, the unique bands allow them to lock down devices they sell to their own LTE networks, but 2 and 4 are open.

So that means you could'nt use the c6833 on At&t LTE network then.

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ij0rgei · Sep 21, 2013

I can confirm this to be the case. I am currently running the C6833 on ATT and an unable to get the LTE to work. I have called them and checked and they have said by not having the 700 band, that is whats keeping me from accessing their LTE network. Right now all I am getting is HSPA+ on their network and it works pretty well. It has been a PITA getting all the network settings to work all at once but I think I have it all good now, so if anyone is trying to use ATT and having problems, I might be able to help.

One question I do have is that most LTE phones that are made specifically for ATT have LTE 700mhz band 17/2100. the C6833 has the 2100 band, so my question is why cant we access the LTE network using that band since we dont have the 700mhz?

ewatt74 · Sep 22, 2013

ij0rgei said:
I can confirm this to be the case. I am currently running the C6833 on ATT and an unable to get the LTE to work. I have called them and checked and they have said by not having the 700 band, that is whats keeping me from accessing their LTE network. Right now all I am getting is HSPA+ on their network and it works pretty well. It has been a PITA getting all the network settings to work all at once but I think I have it all good now, so if anyone is trying to use ATT and having problems, I might be able to help.

One question I do have is that most LTE phones that are made specifically for ATT have LTE 700mhz band 17/2100. the C6833 has the 2100 band, so my question is why cant we access the LTE network using that band since we dont have the 700mhz?

I have the Sony Xperia Z Ultra 6802 and I'm useing it on At&t. But I will be getting the 6806 so I can have the benifit of LTE.

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UserDemos · Sep 22, 2013

ij0rgei said:
One question I do have is that most LTE phones that are made specifically for ATT have LTE 700mhz band 17/2100. the C6833 has the 2100 band, so my question is why cant we access the LTE network using that band since we dont have the 700mhz?

You can't use it on LTE because 2100 is Band 1. The US does not use Band 1 (2100) because Band 4 (1700+2100) uses the 2100 for its downlink, therefore it is already being occupied. Make sense? Band 1 (2100) is something one sees mostly in Europe/Asia.

AT&T uses Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700+2100), Band 5 (850), and Band 17 (700). The majority of their network currently runs on Band 17. Without Band 17, you will not be able to access their LTE network in most places (I can only think of 3-4 places where they are not using Band 17 due to spectrum constraints).

djjoonie · Sep 24, 2013

UserDemos said:
You can't use it on LTE because 2100 is Band 1. The US does not use Band 1 (2100) because Band 4 (1700+2100) uses the 2100 for its downlink, therefore it is already being occupied. Make sense? Band 1 (2100) is something one sees mostly in Europe/Asia.

AT&T uses Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700+2100), Band 5 (850), and Band 17 (700). The majority of their network currently runs on Band 17. Without Band 17, you will not be able to access their LTE network in most places (I can only think of 3-4 places where they are not using Band 17 due to spectrum constraints).

Can anyone confirm c6833 will work on tmobiles 4g lte? I am very confused now..

clubtech · Sep 24, 2013

djjoonie said:
Can anyone confirm c6833 will work on tmobiles 4g lte? I am very confused now..

Yes it works on T-Mobile LTE. Using it right now.

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nihal1983 · Sep 24, 2013

can you please explain how

clubtech said:
Yes it works on T-Mobile LTE. Using it right now.

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I have the same but no lte shown.plain 4g

Purple_Clouded · Sep 24, 2013

nihal1983 said:
I have the same but no lte shown.plain 4g

Normally you will NOT see a LTE logo unless yo do some time of root or customization outside o the stock Sony UI and launcher that came with the phone. (I cannot confirm but so far with my recent phones, this has always been the case.) The only real possible way of proving that you're on LTE from T-Mobile is by getting an app and clocking your internet speeds.

Regardless, if you're satisfied with the speed of your data connection and the lightspeed of the Sony ZU, there's no need to bother. (Unless of course you feel conscious of shelling out the extra 50 or so dollars.)

Rest assured, my ZU C6833 will be coming in this Friday and I myself am on T-Mobile. I've heard time and time that everyone has been able to connect to their respective 4G LTE networks with ease, and combined with the speed and finesse of the phone it's a breeze to surf the web, play games, multitask etc. I hope that you're satisfied with what you have! It would be a shame if you device was faulty! (Let's hope not!)

UserDemos · Sep 24, 2013

djjoonie said:
Can anyone confirm c6833 will work on tmobiles 4g lte? I am very confused now..

Not sure what's confusing. Learn what bands your carrier uses and compare them on the spec. sheet.

T-Mobile uses Band 2 (1900) and Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for HSPA+ (a.k.a. 4G) and uses Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for LTE (a.k.a 4G LTE).

The c6833 according to Sony supports Band 5 (850), Band 7 (900), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 2 (1900), and Band 1 (2100) on HSPA+ and Band I (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), band 8 (900), and Band 20 (800) on LTE.

Therefore, the 2 HSPA+ bands and the 1 LTE band you need for T-Mobile are on the c6833. It will also work great internationally. If you have AT&T though, you will not be able to get LTE and need the c6906 model.

djjoonie · Sep 24, 2013

Thank you for the confirmation.

UserDemos said:
Not sure what's confusing. Learn what bands your carrier uses and compare them on the spec. sheet.

T-Mobile uses Band 2 (1900) and Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for HSPA+ (a.k.a. 4G) and uses Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for LTE (a.k.a 4G LTE).

The c6833 according to Sony supports Band 5 (850), Band 7 (900), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 2 (1900), and Band 1 (2100) on HSPA+ and Band I (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), band 8 (900), and Band 20 (800) on LTE.

Therefore, the 2 HSPA+ bands and the 1 LTE band you need for T-Mobile are on the c6833. It will also work great internationally. If you have AT&T though, you will not be able to get LTE and need the c6906 model.

cholepuree1 · Sep 24, 2013

Just make sure the apn is set correctly. I get LTE on US T-Mobile.

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nihal1983 · Sep 24, 2013

cholepuree1 said:
Just make sure the apn is set correctly. I get LTE on US T-Mobile.

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Can you please share the apn and what do you see under the mobile networks.I see 4g cdma etc.

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cholepuree1 · Sep 24, 2013

Here you go!

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nihal1983 · Sep 24, 2013

I don't see the lte option in networks. I added the apn manually

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nihal1983 · Sep 24, 2013

4g not lte for me

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cholepuree1 · Sep 24, 2013

nihal1983 said:
4g not lte for me

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It's possible that it's a fremont thing. When I had my Note2, i rarely got LTE in fremont, but always did in Irvine. I'll be in fremont this weekend, and I'll check it out for you.

nihal1983 · Sep 24, 2013

thanks

cholepuree1 said:
It's possible that it's a fremont thing. When I had my Note2, i rarely got LTE in fremont, but always did in Irvine. I'll be in fremont this weekend, and I'll check it out for you.

I have an t-mo s4 and i get lte, funny thing is i get lte speeds no logo shown or in the networks shows 4g not lte

ruebenhejja · Sep 25, 2013

I have the same APN settings on my c6833. I get LTE on T-Mobile in some areas (San Diego, California) but if I go somewhere there is no LTE, I get no data. It's like the phone doesn't want to switch to HSPA+ or anything else if there is no LTE. Do I need multiple APN's or does anyone know how to fix the data being either LTE or nothing?

Edit: I changed the "Bearer" to "Unspecified" instead of "LTE" and now it gets H+ but no LTE... Weird...

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