MIUI One Stop Shop, Q&A, Etc....

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valdesr11

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vanessaem said:
Definitions from urbandictionary.com:

Troll:

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

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A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them. Trolls often go by multiple names to circumvent getting banned.
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So someone that asks for an ETA is automatically a troll because you guys find it provocative? Tecnically, the trolls are the ones that turn a simple questions into something its not by giving a provocative answer?
 
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valdesr11 said:
So someone that asks for an ETA is automatically a troll because you guys find it provocative? Tecnically, the trolls are the ones that turn a simple questions into something its not by giving a provocative answer?
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Imagine 30 different PMs asking you when your update will be done... its annoying... then on top of those the thread you created has multiple users asking also that haven't pmd you yet but they sure are thinking about doing it because they're too impatient and what everything fixed NAO! Doesn't work that way. Patience is a virtue.

Here's another point. Would you rather me as a developer push out an untested update that could mess everything up? Or would you rather have a quality tested build and or app that's been checked through?

Asking for ETAs on XDA has always been frowned upon. Always will be.

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You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.
 
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valdesr11 said:
You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.
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Ahh but see my sadistic side takes over and wants to... that MattCrystal doesn't ignore much.

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valdesr11 said:
You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.
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The point is that adults shouldn't act like children. Especially on a tech forum, if you're not tech savvy enough to do it yourself or at least learn how, shut the **** up, period.
 
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valdesr11 said:
You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.
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Agreed but some people don't understand that psychology unless you tell them straight out to knock it off. Even though, sometimes even that doesn't work.
Asking for ETAs from developers is as rude as getting ripped a new one for asking.

I'm with you with the ignoring method though.
 
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valdesr11 said:
You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.
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What works the best is teaching someone the way things should be done. Just like with children. You don't ignore an undesirable behavior with a child, you try to correct it, by explaining why they shouldn't do that behavior.

I don't flame people for asking for ETA's, i explain that they shouldn't.
 
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pstevep said:
What works the best is teaching someone the way things should be done. Just like with children. You don't ignore an undesirable behavior with a child, you try to correct it, by explaining why they shouldn't do that behavior.

I don't flame people for asking for ETA's, i explain that they shouldn't.
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Sometimes you gently explain why it's wrong to ask for ETAs and then they're like, "But I demand one NAO!!!" or the developer gives them one(which they shouldn't do) and if it's not done by that time, all hell breaks loose.

A bunch of trolls with pitchforks and torches, march angrily to the door of the developer and demand....

Wait a minute, I think I'm confusing this with the movie, Frankenstein. :cool:

Same idea though. :p
 
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Sometimes you gently explain why it's wrong to ask for ETAs and then they're like, "But I demand one NAO!!!" or the developer gives them one(which they shouldn't do) and if it's not done by that time, all hell breaks loose.

A bunch of trolls with pitchforks and torches, march angrily to the door of the developer and demand....

Wait a minute, I think I'm confusing this with the movie, Frankenstein. :cool:

Same idea though. :p
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Lol should be a ETF fee for folks asking ETA :rolleyes: :D
 
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il Duce said:
The point is that adults shouldn't act like children. Especially on a tech forum, if you're not tech savvy enough to do it yourself or at least learn how, shut the **** up, period.
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vanessaem said:
Agreed but some people don't understand that psychology unless you tell them straight out to knock it off. Even though, sometimes even that doesn't work.
Asking for ETAs from developers is as rude as getting ripped a new one for asking.

I'm with you with the ignoring method though.
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pstevep said:
What works the best is teaching someone the way things should be done. Just like with children. You don't ignore an undesirable behavior with a child, you try to correct it, by explaining why they shouldn't do that behavior.

I don't flame people for asking for ETA's, i explain that they shouldn't.
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It was a metaphor. I agree with you because what you get here is free and you have no reason to ask for something and expect it at a certain time. But, people have the right to be curious to know when they can expect an update for many reasons. People have busy schedules and need to know when they should check back in for the update.

When people don't see an update in months like they saw happened with MIUI, they get worried and want to know whats going on with their favorite rom and why its not getting the very important fixes. They want to know if it ever is going to get an update and if not, they know they need to find a new rom to flash.

I also understand there are ignorant bastards that are annoying as hell and think that by asking for an ETA, its going to force the developer to work quicker. Which is the complete opposite, it makes them work slower because it pisses them off. That is why I say ignore them! Who loses in this case? The developer is going through all the hard work of putting it together and the developer gets angry because people are asking for ETAs while the flasher doesn't care to get flamed and still gets the rom for free and without worries.

Its the Mods job to explain to them that its not right, not yours.
When you approach a situation, you need to look at it from both angles and understand why the developer gets mad, and why people continue to ask for ETAs and then you will understand why there is no need to flame these "trolls". Just tell them nicely that its being worked on and that you promise it will be released as soon as its ready to be released.
 
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valdesr11 said:
It was a metaphor. I agree with you because what you get here is free and you have no reason to ask for something and expect it at a certain time. But, people have the right to be curious to know when they can expect an update for many reasons. People have busy schedules and need to know when they should check back in for the update.

When people don't see an update in months like they saw happened with MIUI, they get worried and want to know whats going on with their favorite rom and why its not getting the very important fixes. They want to know if it ever is going to get an update and if not, they know they need to find a new rom to flash.

I also understand there are ignorant bastards that are annoying as hell and think that by asking for an ETA, its going to force the developer to work quicker. Which is the complete opposite, it makes them work slower because it pisses them off. That is why I say ignore them! Who loses in this case? The developer is going through all the hard work of putting it together and the developer gets angry because people are asking for ETAs while the flasher doesn't care to get flamed and still gets the rom for free and without worries.

Its the Mods job to explain to them that its not right, not yours.
When you approach a situation, you need to look at it from both angles and understand why the developer gets mad, and why people continue to ask for ETAs and then you will understand why there is no need to flame these "trolls". Just tell them nicely that its being worked on and that you promise it will be released as soon as its ready to be released.
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"People have busy schedules and need to know when they should check back in for the update." People are not owed a time for when the next update will be and the developer is not on their clock.

Developers are people with busy schedules as well. That's precisely why it's rude and unnerving to keep asking them for ETAs. No people don't have the right to keep haranguing the developer for times and dates on when stuff will get done.
Don't forget, developers are doing this in their spare time and for fun. It starts not being fun when it starts feeling like a job and people become demanding. That's why quite a few developers stopped doing this type of thing and have gone elsewhere.

Mods are people with busy schedules as well. Mods are responsible for quite a few forums and many threads. They're not monitoring threads for people constantly asking for ETAs. There are much bigger offenses to worry about. The continuous ETA requests can be handled by the OP and/or the folks on the thread(respectfully).
However, if someone gets really insulting and nasty to you for asking for an ETA, you have every right to use your reporting powers and get a mod involved.

You have to read those definitions I posted about what a troll is. Being annoying doesn't necessarily make one a troll, it just makes them annoying...lol.
 
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vanessaem said:
"People have busy schedules and need to know when they should check back in for the update." People are not owed a time for when the next update will be and the developer is not on their clock.

Developers are people with busy schedules as well. That's precisely why it's rude and unnerving to keep asking them for ETAs. No people don't have the right to keep haranguing the developer for times and dates on when stuff will get done.
Don't forget, developers are doing this in their spare time and for fun. It starts not being fun when it starts feeling like a job and people become demanding. That's why quite a few developers stopped doing this type of thing and have gone elsewhere.

Mods are people with busy schedules as well. Mods are responsible for quite a few forums and many threads. They're not monitoring threads for people constantly asking for ETAs. There are much bigger offenses to worry about. The continuous ETA requests can be handled by the OP and/or the folks on the thread(respectfully).
However, if someone gets really insulting and nasty to you for asking for an ETA, you have every right to use your reporting powers and get a mod involved.

You have to read those definitions I posted about what a troll is. Being annoying doesn't necessarily make one a troll, it just makes them annoying...lol.
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They can tear your thread down with crappy raitings if they stalk ya lol.. But that report button comes in handy :D I know pstevep handled some of my reports :D Along with Jay :D I never bother to try and correct folks that are trollin I just report :D Saves time. Also I do what I can to help out new folks that may get hammered by other users :D I know you guys roll the same way with help.

Thanks ^^)
 
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