i fail to see the problem, if we dont notice the difference who cares if it is fake or not?
[Guide] Original VS. Fake BST-41 XPERIA X1 Battery
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i fail to see the problem, if we dont notice the difference who cares if it is fake or not?
I hear you - and for me I've had a fake spare battery for my SD750 Camera for years and it lasted longer than the OEM one.
I did purchase, for $2.99 + $0.50 shipping, a fake battery on eBay. I knew it was fake, and I was fine with it not lasting as long as the OEM. However, my problem is that it has a tendency to die instantly. It goes from 50% power reading (or some other similar high level) to 0% in an eyeblink and just shuts off. Not the best thing to have in a phone that you may not be using regularly, but just expect to ring when you get a call...
Just my 2 cents - if you have no other way to get power and you check it often then the battery is still worth $3 - but just don't expect to have a warning when it's running low.
i contat to that seller who is selling this battery abut 44$
and answer was like that
"we sell only brand new and original product"
but i don't belive that
where thay get this batteryes so low price when REAL Original on SONYSTYLE is about 89$
I've been looking at that seller as it seems highly recommended.
Dilemma I have is he sells 'A Grade' for £9.95, and 'B Grade' for £6.95.
Any idea what the difference is?
Doesn't matter, I've had a reply from him:
"A grade batteries are clean without major marks. B grade batteries have some visible cosmetic marks." - Will give one of these B-Grades a go
"A grade batteries are clean without major marks. B grade batteries have some visible cosmetic marks." - Will give one of these B-Grades a go
X1a Battery (But then, isn't that... Human Nature? - OR IS IT!?? - )
X1a Battery
I lost my back up battery that I got from SONY services in The Philippines as as thank you promo Free-bee and I always want a back up battery, having had the TYTN and the especially the thinner version of the HTC DIAMOND TOUCH and having small brand-name extra thin digital cameras all taught me taht - having at least one back-up battery is a very good idea.
So I went to the NET and found the sonyEricsson X1a - SE-Xperia BST-41 Battery was INSANELY expensive at $120 Canadian Full Retail +Tax of almost 13% tax. My wholesaler offered it to me for $80 PLUS the Montreal, Quebec Canada sales combined sales taxes of 12.875% (gotta pay for Medicare & Gov't salaries somehow, HUH? Eh? *lol*) ...
So - I eBay'ed it and coughed up only W$6.99 per battery knock-offs I presume? (dubious of it's 'decency'but certain of it not being a major financial investment) and then I got them with no duty and free delivery and arrived for under $18 CDN bux for 2 of them and guess what? I didn't pay 80 bux Xs 2Xs 12.875% tax for a total of 180.60 but about 1/10th the cost - and the batteries work 98.7865% just as well - so for the difference of 10 Xs the price, at least! I am Fine with That! (Moral issues aside, of course
I hate financing a Human Rights Violating Country like CHINA, but hasn't excessive and abusive Capitalism caused us all to stop feeding ourselves, in favor the Overly Powerful that we created by buying from them as THEY themselves - Our own North American companies, violated other countries for their ability to be endentured, slave-like, cheap labor forces, themselves!?) except the BUSH Oil empire running a certain large country, Bill Gates and the now worlds' richest man who is a Mexican Power Broker and (alleged)cellular phone services magnate?
OK so we are still making individuals in the Americas overly power-mongering wealthy Capitalists *l0l* - but if we Spread the Power by buying elsewhere, then not the Local Americas, but OTHERS, are rewarded by us as we reduce our own cost factors by 90% and in the process, enriching ALL OUR OWN LIVES, while challenging the old Guard - So in effect - by shopping on eBay and buying from OTHER countries - besides the USA buying form Canada and vice-versa, we are making a political statement that we admonish excessive and Abusive Capitalism - and one day - all the rest of the world, will take a FULL 1 WEEK Moratorium and not buy anything from CHINA - and that'll Show 'em! THEN... then we will go right back to buying from The Best prices suppliers with Decent quality, all over again.
I am sure if we had Space exploration, the powers that got there first would enslave the locals as cheep labor as they raped their natural resources and showed complete disregard for their well-being (AVATAR?!?? China in TIBET? USA for IRAQ Oil? Canadians SHOPPING in FLORIDA? *l0l*)
But then, isn't that... Human Nature?
As Denis Miller says...
- that's just my opinion.
[ OR IS IT!?? ]
X1a Battery
I lost my back up battery that I got from SONY services in The Philippines as as thank you promo Free-bee and I always want a back up battery, having had the TYTN and the especially the thinner version of the HTC DIAMOND TOUCH and having small brand-name extra thin digital cameras all taught me taht - having at least one back-up battery is a very good idea.
So I went to the NET and found the sonyEricsson X1a - SE-Xperia BST-41 Battery was INSANELY expensive at $120 Canadian Full Retail +Tax of almost 13% tax. My wholesaler offered it to me for $80 PLUS the Montreal, Quebec Canada sales combined sales taxes of 12.875% (gotta pay for Medicare & Gov't salaries somehow, HUH? Eh? *lol*) ...
So - I eBay'ed it and coughed up only W$6.99 per battery knock-offs I presume? (dubious of it's 'decency'but certain of it not being a major financial investment) and then I got them with no duty and free delivery and arrived for under $18 CDN bux for 2 of them and guess what? I didn't pay 80 bux Xs 2Xs 12.875% tax for a total of 180.60 but about 1/10th the cost - and the batteries work 98.7865% just as well - so for the difference of 10 Xs the price, at least! I am Fine with That! (Moral issues aside, of course
I hate financing a Human Rights Violating Country like CHINA, but hasn't excessive and abusive Capitalism caused us all to stop feeding ourselves, in favor the Overly Powerful that we created by buying from them as THEY themselves - Our own North American companies, violated other countries for their ability to be endentured, slave-like, cheap labor forces, themselves!?) except the BUSH Oil empire running a certain large country, Bill Gates and the now worlds' richest man who is a Mexican Power Broker and (alleged)cellular phone services magnate?
OK so we are still making individuals in the Americas overly power-mongering wealthy Capitalists *l0l* - but if we Spread the Power by buying elsewhere, then not the Local Americas, but OTHERS, are rewarded by us as we reduce our own cost factors by 90% and in the process, enriching ALL OUR OWN LIVES, while challenging the old Guard - So in effect - by shopping on eBay and buying from OTHER countries - besides the USA buying form Canada and vice-versa, we are making a political statement that we admonish excessive and Abusive Capitalism - and one day - all the rest of the world, will take a FULL 1 WEEK Moratorium and not buy anything from CHINA - and that'll Show 'em! THEN... then we will go right back to buying from The Best prices suppliers with Decent quality, all over again.
I am sure if we had Space exploration, the powers that got there first would enslave the locals as cheep labor as they raped their natural resources and showed complete disregard for their well-being (AVATAR?!?? China in TIBET? USA for IRAQ Oil? Canadians SHOPPING in FLORIDA? *l0l*)
But then, isn't that... Human Nature?
As Denis Miller says...
- that's just my opinion.
[ OR IS IT!?? ]
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For all those buying fake batteries and hoping for the best, remember to test all batteries with a voltometer or multimeter before using. If you get anything below 4.0v or above 4.4v, I would be concerned.
i am looking for some replacement battery that has more miliamps then orginial,does anybody know where can i get one?
So he claimed it was from Sony Singapore when the battery prints in simplified Chinese that its "Sony Ericsson product (China) corporation"?
henryfranz2005
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i really would like to buy a Mugen Battery for X1 however I need to know the facts regarding the charger needed (how many mA? or 1A for faster charging?) and what is its performance ? thanks guys.
Yes, I do say! There were several older threads about this phone getting warm/hot. And one person suggested because the battery should be of higher capacity. So I went for this Mugen Power 1800mAh.
When it came it looked really like "what the heck did I buy", and the charge seems to be shorter then the OEM (like about 1 hour or so). BUT the most important part for me is solved, the battery temp stays ALWAYS below 30°C!
Once my OEM went up to 55 and somebody said its close to im/explode.
The phone still gets warm but probably because of the CPU working, definately NOT the battery.
I recommend the 1800mAh anytime! But not this 3600 as somebody stated this is just 2 of those packed together and the phone cannot calculate the real charge and this cover you need looks cheap and probably is!
Hope that helped! Just don't buy this or any other battery off ebay! Go buy it at the dealer to be safe rather then sorry!
Haha, the new battery doesn't have a inbuilt reader, that's why it always says 25,9
I bought a "Original Sony Ericcson Battery BST-41 by SonyEricsson" at Amazon.de
I unpacked the package and in there was a Battery that I think it is a fake Battery not a Original one
Here are some Pictures, the Hologram is missing and the pinting is different, and there are no small "holes" in the bottom of the Battery
Do you agree with me that it is a Fake one?
- I think so.
Should I send it back?
Here are the pictures on the left side the Original one included in the Xperia X1 on the right side the one from Amazon
EDIT: sent it back, after I wrote the seller, which said, that they never sent batteries without that hologramm.
I will report back after getting hopefully the right one.
I unpacked the package and in there was a Battery that I think it is a fake Battery not a Original one
Here are some Pictures, the Hologram is missing and the pinting is different, and there are no small "holes" in the bottom of the Battery
Do you agree with me that it is a Fake one?
- I think so.
Should I send it back?
Here are the pictures on the left side the Original one included in the Xperia X1 on the right side the one from Amazon
EDIT: sent it back, after I wrote the seller, which said, that they never sent batteries without that hologramm.
I will report back after getting hopefully the right one.
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I bought one of eBay a few weeks back too and I think it's a fake, because it says (claims) it's Lithium Ion and I can't find any BST-41's that are anything but Li-Po. With that said however, the hologram is nearly identical to the original and the performance/life of it is MUCH better than my original one - which I know is worn out, but still.
I can't find any site where to get this one. I assume the eBay seller was reselling something from China, but I can't get in contact with him either. I found something on alibaba (which is wholesale though, I know) that claims to have Li-Ion BST-41's but there is no photo of the front of the battery. Anyway, I have attached photo's. Sorry about the moderate blurriness, I ain't good on a camera. If anyone can find this same type of "genuine" Li-Ion BST-41, I recommend it. I think I paid $28 (AU) for it (free postage).
EDIT: The alibaba one is not the same as mine, markings on the back are different.
EDIT2: I remember the original listing might have been from Amazon because I couldn't find the battery in my eBay history, but I can't find anything on any of the sites I buy goods from. I do remember though that it came in retail packaging (orange and white I think? Or is it green and white?) And the product listing said it was for X1. But I run an X10, same BST-41 (also same as Xperia Play).
I can't find any site where to get this one. I assume the eBay seller was reselling something from China, but I can't get in contact with him either. I found something on alibaba (which is wholesale though, I know) that claims to have Li-Ion BST-41's but there is no photo of the front of the battery. Anyway, I have attached photo's. Sorry about the moderate blurriness, I ain't good on a camera. If anyone can find this same type of "genuine" Li-Ion BST-41, I recommend it. I think I paid $28 (AU) for it (free postage).
EDIT: The alibaba one is not the same as mine, markings on the back are different.
EDIT2: I remember the original listing might have been from Amazon because I couldn't find the battery in my eBay history, but I can't find anything on any of the sites I buy goods from. I do remember though that it came in retail packaging (orange and white I think? Or is it green and white?) And the product listing said it was for X1. But I run an X10, same BST-41 (also same as Xperia Play).
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mind you, MSM-HK is the best brand for aftermarket batteries.. it gives equivalent performance to the original ones.. and oh, there are FAKE and ORIGINAL MSM-HK batteries, too! you must have bought the fake ones..
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4I've bought new BST-41 Battery off ebay weeks ago.
He claim that they're "100% Original BST-41 New Sony Ericsson Battery X1 X-1 " and "From Sony Ericsson Singapore (NOT CHINA FAKE BATTERY)"
with the price of 17.99$ and free shipping so, I think I should give it a try.
As suspected, it is a fake, very neat fake I must say.
As you can see, they are almost identical.
Hologram reflects at ~30 degree. The fake hologram will elevated from label a little (like stick them on top), but the original will smooth across surface.
Hologram closeup. The fake one have more pixelation than the original.
Look at both SE logo and the word "SONY ERICSSON" around it.
Label closeup. Look at "Sony Ericsson" and "+" (positive), they will have some blur edge and not crisp.
Label closeup (lower part). The word "WNBTS" alignment off a little.
Back side. The fake one will have overlapping label.
Top side. You will notice that the battery shape is not identical, the fake one will have round edge, the original will have more square like edge. This is the easiest way to detect.
Another consideration is the "Moisture Sensor", the fake one will have "plain paper" instead of the moisture sensor (I have tried pouring water over it and the color won't change) and the size is larger too.
Bottom side. The original will have a hole (to depress pressure in case of exploding).
As of now, I've contacted the seller and ask him whether this is the original or not.
He replies "Yes it is original sony battery.. pls try to use it and by using it, u will know it is original."
What should I do?
File a dispute to Paypal? Contact SE to confirm it? Report the item to ebay?
I want to hear an opinion from you guys.
Thanks everyone who read this.
Kan
