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[ROM] - [MikRoms] - [05/08/2011] - MikZ v1.16 - ReEngineered Sense 2.0 - ZzodexzZ

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26th March 2011, 03:20 PM |#1221  
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From what I put together this morning, not only will the odex create (allow) more space in data because of no need for dalvik, it is a ton faster because of the lack of compression for the odex files, since the classes.dex are no longer in the apk itself. So you get speed and performance.

Edit: that didn't really answer your question...hehe

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Interesting, so are you saying from your research this morning, you have found that Dalvik-Cache is something that arises out of using de-odexed ROMs, and not something that would exist in an odex version of the same ROM? I could see this I guess, since once we rooted our phones and started playing with flashable roms, they were all de-odexed and hense I got used to seeing dalvik-cache on all of them.
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Interesting, so are you saying from your research this morning, you have found that Dalvik-Cache is something that arises out of using de-odexed ROMs, and not something that would exist in an odex version of the same ROM? I could see this I guess, since once we rooted our phones and started playing with flashable roms, they were all de-odexed and hense I got used to seeing dalvik-cache on all of them.

Well, I still don't have a full grasp on it yet. I talked with mik and he answered some questions. I did a little googling too. Stock roms come odexed as far as the system and frameworks go. The odex files are short for optimized dalvik executables. They tell the system what to do. In a deodexed rom, the dalvik virtual machine has to pull/decompile (looking for correct wording) the classes.dex from within each apk at boot up, thus long boot up times. With odex, it cones precompiled and thus need not decompile. The dalvik still exists even in stock roms. It is an android thing. So market apps and data appa still use it. Deodexing just allowed the system and framework files to utilize the dalvik and make theming easier because the apks are more or less all inclusive since the classes.dex are within the apk. So jeff, that is what I gathered. Our mik is changing the game.

Edit: also, the odex files are more device specific and not as easily toyed with. Thats why most devs have used deodexed from the old days. Mik said that the new devices are different. We can do more with them now then we could then. Its time to invent some new creative ways of doing things instead of utilizing the same old tricks over and over. I see it like that.

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26th March 2011, 03:47 PM |#1223  
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Well, I still don't have a full grasp on it yet. I talked with mik and he answered some questions. I did a little googling too. Stock roms come odexed as far as the system and frameworks go. The odex files are short for optimized dalvik executables. They tell the system what to do. In a deodexed rom, the dalvik virtual machine has to pull/decompile (looking for correct wording) the classes.dex from within each apk at boot up, thus long boot up times. With odex, it cones precompiled and thus need not decompile. The dalvik still exists even in stock roms. It is an android thing. So market apps and data appa still use it. Deodexing just allowed the system and framework files to utilize the dalvik and make theming easier because the apks are more or less all inclusive since the classes.dex are within the apk. So jeff, that is what I gathered. Our mik is changing the game.

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Wow Tommy, you even remembered my name, I am impressed! Sounds like you are still learning, as am I, how our wonderful phone works!! This was a good description and cleared up a few questions, so thanks (button hit).
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Well I have to ask, how much is everyone paying for a mediafire account? I seen the free one but it only allows you 200mb of storage. Not trying to be nosey just was thinking of opening one. Already have RapidShare and Mega (slow)accounts.
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Wow Tommy, you even remembered my name, I am impressed! Sounds like you are still learning, as am I, how our wonderful phone works!! This was a good description and cleared up a few questions, so thanks (button hit).

PS...I sent a few bucks to your water charity just now, good cause!
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Well I have to ask, how much is everyone paying for a mediafire account? I seen the free one but it only allows you 200mb of storage. Not trying to be nosey just was thinking of opening one. Already have RapidShare and Mega (slow)accounts.

Mediafire is unlimited. 200mb is the limit per file...

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PS...I sent a few bucks to your water charity just now, good cause!

Awesome! Thank you. In high school we did a little awareness night for this cause. Its amazing how much they've accomplished in just a few years. This kind of work is my ultimate goal.

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Awesome! Thank you. In high school we did a little awareness night for this cause. Its amazing how much they've accomplished in just a few years. This kind of work is my ultimate goal.

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Cool, they just sent me a tax receipt as well! Obviously a well run, viable charity that I will keep in mind for future donations once my first $B is in the bank
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Mediafire is unlimited. 200mb is the limit per file...

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Yup, I have well over 200mb total on my account, and since even a fully loaded ROM is less than 200mb, mediafire is the way to go for free hosting of our files!
26th March 2011, 04:36 PM |#1230  
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ROFLMAO!! I forgot I already have a mediafire account. God I deserve a "FacePalm"



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Yup, I have well over 200mb total on my account, and since even a fully loaded ROM is less than 200mb, mediafire is the way to go for free hosting of our files!

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ROFLMAO!! I forgot I already have a mediafire account. God I deserve a "FacePalm"

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