[RADIO] Leaked GB 2.15.10.05.06

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Nephilim

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Went from -87 to -76 dbm in the basement at my house. GPS loaded in about 12 seconds rather than the full minute it took with the newest EVO radio. Definite improvements all around for me with this radio. :D
 

nfiniti9

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Looking at what your signal dB is right after flashing is telling you ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. You can fart and your signal would change. The ac could come on and change your signal, someone may walk by and affect it. The only way to test a radio for real data is to get an average over time in different locations with external factors to a minimum.

People want so badly to do something quick and easy that makes a huge or real difference. I think its why the kernels are so popular. Same reason registry cleaners became popular. If there was an updated radio that really improved the signal, I GUARANTEE you Verizon would want to push it immediately. This would only benefit them. Almost always the updated radios etc are dealing with issues/bugs, not improving the signal. I'd bet the release radio is about as good as the signal will get unless its dealing with an issue that certain towers may have etc.
 

Nephilim

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Looking at what your signal dB is right after flashing is telling you ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. You can fart and your signal would change. The ac could come on and change your signal, someone may walk by and affect it. The only way to test a radio for real data is to get an average over time in different locations with external factors to a minimum.

People want so badly to do something quick and easy that makes a huge or real difference. I think its why the kernels are so popular. Same reason registry cleaners became popular. If there was an updated radio that really improved the signal, I GUARANTEE you Verizon would want to push it immediately. This would only benefit them. Almost always the updated radios etc are dealing with issues/bugs, not improving the signal. I'd bet the release radio is about as good as the signal will get unless its dealing with an issue that certain towers may have etc.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree, I have always based my improvements on the reception of what I get in my basement due to the fact my basement (as well as 99.9% of others) are completely surrounded by brick, concrete and sometimes large metal beams. My signal is about 10 dbm worse and my GPS is crap in my basement. When I am seeing between -79 and -75 dbm and a 12 second lock on GPS from within that location I call it an improvement. I do however understand your point on a radio not being different in all locations though, I've never had a problem in general with signal in the 6+ years I have been with verizon so for me personally the most important part is GPS and that is much better this time around.

*Also, How many times have you seen verizon update just a radio for the android platform? This radio could be the best ever and it will still not be pushed by Verizon until all the bugs in the actual GB build are taken care of.
 

donnyp1

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Looking at what your signal dB is right after flashing is telling you ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. You can fart and your signal would change. The ac could come on and change your signal, someone may walk by and affect it. The only way to test a radio for real data is to get an average over time in different locations with external factors to a minimum.

People want so badly to do something quick and easy that makes a huge or real difference. I think its why the kernels are so popular. Same reason registry cleaners became popular. If there was an updated radio that really improved the signal, I GUARANTEE you Verizon would want to push it immediately. This would only benefit them. Almost always the updated radios etc are dealing with issues/bugs, not improving the signal. I'd bet the release radio is about as good as the signal will get unless its dealing with an issue that certain towers may have etc.

Nice negativity, may even be sone truth to it, on your phone. Several are reporting better reception, so why try and put it down. Ive been doing this a while, certain things helped, some dont. This works much better for me. So i guess if you start getting dropped calls, you fart on your phone?

Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
 

0soPolar

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Nice negativity, may even be sone truth to it, on your phone. Several are reporting better reception, so why try and put it down. Ive been doing this a while, certain things helped, some dont. This works much better for me. So i guess if you start getting dropped calls, you fart on your phone?

Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

That is what I had gleaned from that post.

I would think that would make it impossible to butt dial someone though, unless you take beano before, so there will be no gas.
 

nfiniti9

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Aug 29, 2010
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Nice negativity, may even be sone truth to it, on your phone. Several are reporting better reception, so why try and put it down. Ive been doing this a while, certain things helped, some dont. This works much better for me. So i guess if you start getting dropped calls, you fart on your phone?

Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App


Reception is not an absolute number, its a snapshot in one instance of time. When you see a reading, its at that exact second it read it. In reality a signal will look like the graph for oil prices right now, constant ups and downs. It constantly changes. The number you see is just a split second, although some phones use average over a few seconds or so. Either way it doesn't show you when you get really low dips or spikes most of the time. Its not about negativity, its about how so many people on XDA are pissing into wells thinking their dreams will come true with a simple change. Its just not how the physical world works. Very very rarely do major changes come from simple updates. Thinking a radio magically makes your radio waves act better is just ludicrous.
 
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Nephilim

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Reception is not an absolute number, its a snapshot in one instance of time. When you see a reading, its at that exact second it read it. In reality a signal will look like the graph for oil prices right now, constant ups and downs. It constantly changes. The number you see is just a split second, although some phones use average over a few seconds or so. Either way it doesn't show you when you get really low dips or spikes most of the time. Its not about negativity, its about how so many people on XDA are pissing into wells thinking their dreams will come true with a simple change. Its just not how the physical world works. Very very rarely do major changes come from simple updates. Thinking a radio magically makes your radio waves act better is just ludicrous.

I figured this comment would eventually be posted, You are being kind of narrow minded and assuming the people at XDA are all unintelligent by saying this. I myself (and I am willing to bet many others) have been averaging this radio since it's installation, just as I do for about a day or so with all the other radios I get. Although I have only had this one for about an hour I have only seen a dip between -79 and -76, on occasion a spike up to -82, the lowest I was getting in my basement with the newest evo radio was -85. Now moving on to my gps monitoring, I have completely terminated my maps everytime I retry locking GPS, I have gotten a full lock within 10 meters at between 9 and 12 seconds everytime (this is in my basement) when I step outside it is instant. I will still monitor this throughout the next 24 hrs our so (At work, the gas station, while driving ect ect). Please do not assume the intelligent hardworking developers, themers and coders here at XDA just simply install a new radio, look at it once and then decide it's "Epic".
 

donnyp1

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Reception is not an absolute number, its a snapshot in one instance of time. When you see a reading, its at that exact second it read it. In reality a signal will look like the graph for oil prices right now, constant ups and downs. It constantly changes. The number you see is just a split second, although some phones use average over a few seconds or so. Either way it doesn't show you when you get really low dips or spikes most of the time. Its not about negativity, its about how so many people on XDA are pissing into wells thinking their dreams will come true with a simple change. Its just not how the physical world works. Very very rarely do major changes come from simple updates. Thinking a radio magically makes your radio waves act better is just ludicrous.

Say all you want, ive never seen anything under -72, so please explain how im consistently getting under -50? -47 is crazy good signal

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donnyp1

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Also, over the last hour, driving all over town checking every few minutes it has not gotten above -56. Now unless wichita built new towers the last 4 hours only 2 things have changed, new gb leak install and new radio. Im curious if you can explain which one improved my signal?

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Nephilim

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Also, over the last hour, driving all over town checking every few minutes it has not gotten above -56. Now unless wichita built new towers the last 4 hours only 2 things have changed, new gb leak install and new radio. Im curious if you can explain which one improved my signal?

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donnyp1, i think we are on the same page. As I mentioned in my above post, most of us monitor thoroughly after installing a radio to see the improvements. I think that some people just like to argue when everyone is actually seeing improvements. It might be possible he is one of the few getting a negative instead of a positive after installing the radio so he is just looking for a way to justify it.
 

donnyp1

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donnyp1, i think we are on the same page. As I mentioned in my above post, most of us monitor thoroughly after installing a radio to see the improvements. I think that some people just like to argue when everyone is actually seeing improvements. It might be possible he is one of the few getting a negative instead of a positive after installing the radio so he is just looking for a way to justify it.

True, some areas the radio may do nothing, just no need to tell those of us who are that its in our heads or something, i am stunned how much better my signal is, i think its stuck on 4 bars!

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Nephilim

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True, some areas the radio may do nothing, just no need to tell those of us who are that its in our heads or something, i am stunned how much better my signal is, i think its stuck on 4 bars!

Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

I couldn't agree more, I always do a couple hours of testing from my basement because it's probably the worst signal location I am in on a day to day basis, due to the fact I live in a city. Seeing a steady -79 to -75 and a 10 second GPS lock is amazing, I've not encountered that with any of the EVO or INC radios in the past. I can't wait to checkout my signal strength when I go to work later!
 

grifforama

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Wow, this as a leaked ROM is pretty awesome. Speedy, smooth. I cannot WAIT for this to filter over to the customs....
 

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    Here are some mirror links to the radio that i pulled from the leak GB for the incredible 2.15.10.05.06

    MD5: 3A04AC6F5FDFE2D9FC0D70D5725BCAD0

    Flash at your own risk!

    Place the PB31IMG.zip in the root of your sd card. Boot into HBOOT and apply the update. Enjoy!

    http://www.mediafire.com/?mc5gh7m9vp8pu05

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y51FV14C

    http://www.multiupload.com/TC1J5Z1W2V

    *List of other Radios*
    http://www.mediafire.com/?g1vzlhaf885m8

    *NOTE*
    Each phone is always going to have a different effect/result so don't bash if your phone sucks and others are improved. :) I would like you to take a few hours before posting any type of results. Not within a minute or 10. Thanks
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    Looking at what your signal dB is right after flashing is telling you ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. You can fart and your signal would change. The ac could come on and change your signal, someone may walk by and affect it. The only way to test a radio for real data is to get an average over time in different locations with external factors to a minimum.

    People want so badly to do something quick and easy that makes a huge or real difference. I think its why the kernels are so popular. Same reason registry cleaners became popular. If there was an updated radio that really improved the signal, I GUARANTEE you Verizon would want to push it immediately. This would only benefit them. Almost always the updated radios etc are dealing with issues/bugs, not improving the signal. I'd bet the release radio is about as good as the signal will get unless its dealing with an issue that certain towers may have etc.
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    Nice negativity, may even be sone truth to it, on your phone. Several are reporting better reception, so why try and put it down. Ive been doing this a while, certain things helped, some dont. This works much better for me. So i guess if you start getting dropped calls, you fart on your phone?

    Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App


    Reception is not an absolute number, its a snapshot in one instance of time. When you see a reading, its at that exact second it read it. In reality a signal will look like the graph for oil prices right now, constant ups and downs. It constantly changes. The number you see is just a split second, although some phones use average over a few seconds or so. Either way it doesn't show you when you get really low dips or spikes most of the time. Its not about negativity, its about how so many people on XDA are pissing into wells thinking their dreams will come true with a simple change. Its just not how the physical world works. Very very rarely do major changes come from simple updates. Thinking a radio magically makes your radio waves act better is just ludicrous.
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    I figured this comment would eventually be posted, You are being kind of narrow minded and assuming the people at XDA are all unintelligent by saying this. I myself (and I am willing to bet many others) have been averaging this radio since it's installation, just as I do for about a day or so with all the other radios I get. Although I have only had this one for about an hour I have only seen a dip between -79 and -76, on occasion a spike up to -82, the lowest I was getting in my basement with the newest evo radio was -85. Now moving on to my gps monitoring, I have completely terminated my maps everytime I retry locking GPS, I have gotten a full lock within 10 meters at between 9 and 12 seconds everytime (this is in my basement) when I step outside it is instant. I will still monitor this throughout the next 24 hrs our so (At work, the gas station, while driving ect ect). Please do not assume the intelligent hardworking developers, themers and coders here at XDA just simply install a new radio, look at it once and then decide it's "Epic".

    Well being a software coder and knowing about radio waves/antenna algorithms are not the same thing. So I don't assume they do. On the other hand I know we have some very talented devs, although most have left for newer phones. The general attitude on XDA is based on the idea that they can come here flash something and make some major difference. You see it with kernels, roms, radios etc. I definitely dont want to make anyone feel as if I belittled them. Thats not my intention. But there is far more misinformation on XDA than fact.
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    went from -74 to -84 sitting at my desk with the update

    Well that's MUCH worse.... Not good.