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7th December 2011, 06:55 PM |#101  
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I just did some web searching and it seems the Thrive is also having the same issues with Dolphin HD running HC 3.2.1 here is a link to a thread discussing same issues. Last post states there is a beat version that maybe have fixed issue.

http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/to...roblems-4.html

For anyone interested or experiencing problems with Dolphin HD Browser since upgrading to HC. I have opened a new thread in the APPS section where I have attached a beta APK that is supposed to fix the issue. I received it after contacting their support and they would like us Flyer users to confirm ir resolves our problems

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...8#post20079388

Please keep Dolphin APP discussion more in that thread instead of this Official HC is released thread
 
 
7th December 2011, 11:15 PM |#102  
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Haven't updated with globatron's HC (although I have been severely tempted) because I want US specific. Love the UK but I "realised" that I want to see my words spelled like "realized" and I want my "colour" to be "color"


so theres a special dyslexic/mispelt os for the usa?,didnt know that....


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7th December 2011, 11:23 PM |#103  
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Two reasons.

1) I'm not rooted.
2) Rather have the US wifi specific version.
2. 5) Shouldn't have to hack my tablet to get what I was promised.

So.... I'll wait, somewhat impatiently

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As you wish, but it could be a while for the US.
You can easily change the locale to US English with various apps off the market, just takes on click and done. I prefer root because it opens up some useful options while keeping the stock ROM, such as backing up all apps and their data and blocking unwanted ads in apps and the ability to customize fonts, battery gauge, animations, etc.
7th December 2011, 11:30 PM |#104  
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As you wish, but it could be a while for the US.
You can easily change the locale to US English with various apps off the market, just takes on click and done. I prefer root because it opens up some useful options while keeping the stock ROM, such as backing up all apps and their data and blocking unwanted ads in apps and the ability to customize fonts, battery gauge, animations, etc.

I do wish so I'll wait. Been there done that with rooting. The US version isn't far out. Rooting has its disadvantages too, they've been well documented so I won't go into it here.

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7th December 2011, 11:37 PM |#105  
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Humm, not trying to argue with your choice that's your choice but please enlighten us as to the "documented" disadvantages of rooting. That's really the first I have heard of it. If you mean the device might not install OTA, that's not a draw back. I will have the OTA before non-rooted devices. If you mean warranty repair, that's' not an issue either.
7th December 2011, 11:47 PM |#106  
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Humm, not trying to argue with your choice that's your choice but please enlighten us as to the "documented" disadvantages of rooting. That's really the first I have heard of it. If you mean the device might not install OTA, that's not a draw back. I will have the OTA before non-rooted devices. If you mean warranty repair, that's' not an issue either.

Think about what rooting is, it's an exploit, there's a security reason right there. There are pros and cons, I prefer not to root my devices anymore, as do many others.

http://www.phonedog.com/2011/01/05/w...ndroid-device/

http://droidlessons.com/what-is-root...disadvantages/

If you like you can start another thread and we can discuss it there. Why hijack this thread? You asked us why we don't use the rooted method and I responded. Not my fault you don't agree with my answer.

I apologize if that sounds snippy. Not my intent, long day....

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8th December 2011, 12:03 AM |#107  
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I was keeping the Flyer in sight for some time now.. The only reason that kept me off from buying it, was the obviously suppressed stylus support in GB version.

Could anyone now confirm or discard the rumour of pressure sensitivity support in third-party apps after updating up to HC ROM?

I read through the whole thread here, and there were some claims about that, but either before the official release or still bearing a kind of doubtfulness inside..

Could someone clear the things here once and for all?

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8th December 2011, 12:46 AM |#108  
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First let me start by start by saying I agree that everyone has a right to do what they want. I advocate neither position in this ( rooting or not ) I have provided support for S-OFF and rooting and tried to make it as strightforward and safe for people as possible but would never push pople who don't ant to down that route. I do however take issue with the (mis) information below.

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Think about what rooting is, it's an exploit, there's a security reason right there.

This is completely inaccurate. Rooting is the process of obatining root. In the case of using a vulnerability to obtain root access on a closed device this does require an exploit, however on an unlocked or S-OFF device it is simply installing additional software that allows for root acess to be used. Depending on the method used and when/where it is applies it may or may nor present a security issue.

A device rooted in recovery mode for example does not provide for an additional security threat in normal usage.
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8th December 2011, 12:59 AM |#109  
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First let me start by start by saying I agree that everyone has a right to do what they want. I advocate neither position in this ( rooting or not ) I have provided support for S-OFF and rooting and tried to make it as strightforward and safe for people as possible but would never push pople who don't ant to down that route. I do however take issue with the (mis) information below.

This is completely inaccurate. Rooting is the process of obatining root. In the case of using a vulnerability to obtain root access on a closed device this does require an exploit, however on an unlocked or S-OFF device it is simply installing additional software that allows for root acess to be used. Depending on the method used and when/where it is applies it may or may nor present a security issue.

A device rooted in recovery mode for example does not provide for an additional security threat in normal usage.

Not inaccurate, just doesn't apply to all models as it pertains to risk level, but for the majority of devices an exploit must be obtained. I can provide examples if you like. Although I have seen your work and have no doubt you know your stuff. A recovery exploit is still an exploit and is just as risky, recovery can brick you if you're not careful, so can hboot and radio security.

Is root not obtained by back dooring the device so to speak? I've had this conversation with devs regarding other devices. As a quick example, HTC patched the Thunderbolts root method and I was quite pissed about it, xoomdev, a dev I respect greatly, told me while blocking root sucks, plugging exploits is the responsible thing to do. This "exploit" was how the Thunderbolt obtained root. The "process" of obtaining root is taking advantage of security vulnerabilities in the device on the path to gaining super user access and permissions. In fact, some root programs tell you to disable your anti-virus before proceeding. If exploits weren't being exposed then all phones could essentially be rooted the same way, different vulnerabilities, different root methods.

Some companies make it easier than others, HTC unlock and MOTO dev for example. In thoses cases you're right, a simple install and or adb commands and you're well on your way, but that doesn't apply to all models and all devices. The Flyer is lucky enough to be supported by HTC unlock (I think), my comments weren't Flyer specific but general. HTC kinda left the door open here but other models required quite a bit of elbow grease.

I AM NOT advocating against rooting. I feel it's necessary for some devices, I have examples there too. I've rooted and ROM'd several devices. And I would NEVER tell someone what he or she should do with a device they spent their money on, although I've suggested a few times . Rooting is fun and I love the devs on xda, I've just kinda lost interest in it. It's not just about security that's just one example.

Moving on....I think.

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8th December 2011, 01:24 AM |#110  
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To each his own

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8th December 2011, 02:28 AM |#111  
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I've gone to the Westfire HC and personally I like GB better. Some of the apps I've restored won't work with HC and just the overall layout of the HC isn't quite what I expected.

To each their own and all that, just an observation at this point.
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