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30th January 2012, 12:36 AM |#41  
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I found TacoRoot really interesting, it also seems to provide a way to work with misc.version:

https://github.com/CunningLogic/TacoRoot

I haven't heard of anyone successfully doing it, haha, and it might not be for the faint of heart, since it probably puts your device in a bootloop before you downgrade it.

I was not successful at downgrading. Although I was successful at using tacoroot.

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30th January 2012, 05:33 AM |#42  
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I was not successful at downgrading. Although I was successful at using tacoroot.

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dang, ok. so if you couldn't downgrade, did you gain anything from running TacoRoot?
31st January 2012, 01:27 AM |#43  
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dang, ok. so if you couldn't downgrade, did you gain anything from running TacoRoot?

Well you get root permissions but you cant add anything due to nand lock

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31st January 2012, 02:26 AM |#44  
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https://github.com/tmzt/g2root-kmod
http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/Vision

Thats what people should be reading about. To write to /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 from an s-on device to obtain s-off, the kernel needs to be insmod'ed with a cross compiled module. The above github was for g2 for if source can be modified for doubleshot, it could work.
1st February 2012, 04:59 AM |#45  
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Is it really this hard? Most phones are cracked for root before they hit the street... Did tmobile successfully lock it down finally?.... Id be happy to roll back ota if there was a way... Hate that phone shipped with is OS
1st February 2012, 06:46 AM |#46  
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i just unlocked bootloader following these instructions with no problem

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1426179

Now how the heck can i get to s-off
1st February 2012, 07:02 AM |#47  
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Keep this in mind...
So, having had a little bit of time to catch up somewhat on recent happenings...

Between these two threads:

Gain root access on the latest 1.55.531.3 update, ONLY IF you are S-OFF

HBOOT (1.44.0006) missing fastboot oem commands

... it's shaping up where the answer will be to end up lifting the restrictions that prevent us from writing to certain memory when flashing things.

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re-writing the software to allow you to flash things out of the safe memory range in recovery mode would be a disastrously bad idea. We will start getting reports of bricked phones left and right if someone does that.

Let me qualify the above warning - the MT4GS crowd seems to be more along the lines of asking questions and then flashing, instead of just flashing and asking questions when there's a problem.

I wonder how much of that is because we are a smaller section of the XDA forums compared to the endless amounts of threads some other phones have that have been around for a while - or if it's because you mostly can't get yourself into too much trouble with it. Maybe because of the device cost people tend to research it more and just start with a better grip?

Consider this thread from a while ago:

How many bricked phones?

How many sub-forums on xda do you find only one thread talking about bricked handsets for that model, and it's only a handful of posts long and everyone is happy and upbeat. Not a problem in the world.

Heck, part of the short thread doesn't even discuss bricked phones and nothing is left out about it happening to anyone.

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If we choose to open this door and figure out how to write out of the protected memory range - bringing that option down to the level of any user who can download and flash a package ( or near enough to it ) - how long before our first bricked phone from flashing something?

With the back and forth on re-locking and actively having control of our devices taken away from us a risk with every update ... we just may end up having to anyway but before that happens just keep this in mind.

I'm not saying don't do it, as we are getting boxed into the corner of that being all we have to work with, but before it happens I just want everyone to consider the implications of doing it.

The nature of open source can place a lot of responsibility on the end user simply because you have all the freedom you need to screw yourself beyond repair. This is one of those times where that's what's going to happen.

I know i'm fine with it, and a lot of people who are here now would be fine too, but now that this device is being given out instead of older devices we'll be getting new people that maybe didn't seek out the device and thereby learn about it first.

For how often you see people who just ended up with that device and flashed something not knowing what it did and breaking their handset, that's a hard thing to do here even if you wanted to.

I'm definitely at least half un-sympathetic for anyone that happens to - if you flash stuff without taking the time to read what it does you deserve what you get.

Here is a response I made to a thread where someone was trying to pass the cost of the device on to either the carrier or the manufacturer when they broke it through their own willful fault. Neither the carrier nor the manufacturer broke the phone, complete responsibility for the fault rests on the end user.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...89&postcount=6

And really, the problem of forcing the manufacturer to eat the cost of the device when it's not they are not to blame does more then just raise cost we pay at retail.

You could absolutely articulate the argument that it's their fault we had to do this, since they left us bereft of other options, but in the end we're the ones who suffer the most as the individuals trying to get hardware we can do what we want to - and it's already an expensive device.

Some of you have realized how cautious I am about losing data and this and that, so making this observation is just my nature...

Again, not saying don't do it - the way things are going we'll probably have to figure out how to make it happen. We will gain options we definitely don't have now past the pressing issues too, which is another reason to do this.

Just want people to realize what we're actually doing before it happens.

I'll cross-post this to the other thread quoted at the top of this post, as these two will represent the majority of the ingress to opening up protected memory space.
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1st February 2012, 05:09 PM |#48  
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i just unlocked bootloader following these instructions with no problem

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1426179

Now how the heck can i get to s-off

did the unlocker work all the way to the end? did the splash screen show up on your phone and does your HBOOT say UNLOCKED at the top? we have been waiting on HTC to fix this up.
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just got this phone the other day for my gf

its rocking S-On with 1.45+ hboot

i cannot believe this locked down..this thing is BEGGING to be rooted to at least VAPORIZE THE HORRENDOUS BLOATWARE.


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1st February 2012, 08:40 PM |#50  
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^^ That's why I'm so ready to root this thing and put a custom rom on it. The bloatware on this phone is unreal!

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1st February 2012, 08:40 PM |#51  
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did the unlocker work all the way to the end? did the splash screen show up on your phone and does your HBOOT say UNLOCKED at the top? we have been waiting on HTC to fix this up.

Sure did and says unlocked at top now


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