[Off-Topic] Verizon goes to far on Rooted devices!!!!

morphius2036 · Apr 17, 2012

Ok so my co-worker just came in with at Droid 4 (God rest his soul) and was explaining to me he was informed you can't take the batt our or you void your warranty.

So he too the back of and sure as **** they have the IMEI sticker over top the batt and over laps so you have to cut it and the batt is screwed down....Hmmm looks like an attempt to stop you from rooting your phone cause you can't batt pull.

jsgraphicart · Apr 17, 2012

Does the Droid 4 have an external storage Card? If so is it in the same place as the DX2? Because that would be pointless for motorola to do that since you have to remove the battery to get to it. How do they know you pulled the battery? And why dont they just make the battery non removable? Arent they doing that now with newer phones? I hate how Motorola thinks.

masri1987 · Apr 17, 2012

Wtf does battery pull have to do with rooting?

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morphius2036 · Apr 17, 2012

masri1987 said:
Wtf does battery pull have to do with rooting?

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Well occasionally **** ****s up and you have to pull the batt if an SBF was done before you wiped user data and your in a boot loop so I guess a lot!

jsgraphicart · Apr 17, 2012

Here's a quote from Android Central:

"The most interesting part of the teardown focuses on the Droid 4's troublesome non-removable battery. The teardown process revealed that in addition to a warning sticker, the battery is fixed in place with Torx screws and glue, making removal challenging and potentially hazardous. Putting pressure on a lithium ion battery tends to cause bad things -- like explosions -- to happen, so iFix recommends gently prising it out with a spudger."

Maybe that's why they have the warning sticker on it. The battery they use may be hazardous. Still, non removable batteries suck.

PetrichorXFi · Apr 17, 2012

morphius2036 said:
Well occasionally **** ****s up and you have to pull the batt if an SBF was done before you wiped user data and your in a boot loop so I guess a lot!

yeah, it sucks how companies these days often try to control to much. As far as the battery removal, I have found that on my Droid X2 I have removed the battery dozens of times back when I wasn't rooted.... the software is just junk, so it requires battery pull at times!

brenton70 · Apr 17, 2012

That's one of the reasons I traded up from an iPhone as its easier to carry a spare battery than find somewhere to charge especially when travelling

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in99flames · Apr 17, 2012

Guys seriously, Hold power and volume down for about 10 sec. Same as batt pull. Problem solved. I have had a xoom for over a year, when it freezes solid you do the same thing. I had a RAZR freeze as well while working on it, same button combo. Works every time. No removal needed.

king..kranium · Apr 17, 2012

in99flames said:
Guys seriously, Hold power and volume down for about 10 sec. Same as batt pull. Problem solved. I have had a xoom for over a year, when it freezes solid you do the same thing. I had a RAZR freeze as well while working on it, same button combo. Works every time. No removal needed.

Not on Droid x2 sir( just tried it.)

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in99flames · Apr 17, 2012

jsgraphicart said:
Does the Droid 4 have an external storage Card? If so is it in the same place as the DX2? Because that would be pointless for motorola to do that since you have to remove the battery to get to it. How do they know you pulled the battery? And why dont they just make the battery non removable? Arent they doing that now with newer phones? I hate how Motorola thinks.

The droid 4 does not come with a card but it does have a slot. The location is under the battery cover on top of the battery right next to the 4g sim card. They know you pulled the battery because there is a sticker over the entire battery that must be peeled on the sides to remove the battery. If you are crafty you can do it. There is no need though. The ribbon cable on the bottom of the battery is screwed in with 2 star screws(Torx) i think a t-5 or t-4 in size. It does not have traditional battery pins and terminals. If you try to yank it out, it will break.

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king..kranium said:
Not on Droid x2 sir( just tried it.)

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No it will only work on devices with non-removable batteries. Since our X2s are removable, it does not have the function.

litetaker · Apr 17, 2012

in99flames said:
The droid 4 does not come with a card but it does have a slot. The location is under the battery cover on top of the battery right next to the 4g sim card. They know you pulled the battery because there is a sticker over the entire battery that must be peeled on the sides to remove the battery. If you are crafty you can do it. There is no need though. The ribbon cable on the bottom of the battery is screwed in with 2 star screws(Torx) i think a t-5 or t-4 in size. It does not have traditional battery pins and terminals. If you try to yank it out, it will break.

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No it will only work on devices with non-removable batteries. Since our X2s are removable, it does not have the function.

Name a Moron/jackass who allows you to access the battery compartment but doesn't let you remove it: Motorola! Ding, ding, ding! Congratulations!

What, is the battery a "museum piece"?? Do you open the battery cover and say, "Oh look darling! The flare from the sim/sd card slot accentuates the artistic impressions on the sticker above the battery. How wonderful, hmm.."?

Nonsense. Only explanation, and this is a logical one: Motorola is SOOO out of money, they couldn't even afford to redesign the Droid 4 so that the 4g/sd card slot is outside the battery compartment and the boss said we need a non-user replaceable battery. So, the clueless monkeys at Moto glued that POS.. Good one moto.. Next time, may be you guys can retrofit the X2 chassis with a 4.7 inch screen and add plastic bits to "Extend" the hull... And glue it on with some duck tape... Now that is a killer phone!

morphius2036 · Apr 18, 2012

It gets even better starting the 22nd to upgrade there is a $30 charge on top of the phone cost itself.....T-Mobile here I come it looks like. Hell maybe Ma & Pa's small time wireless with two cans and a string.

litetaker · Apr 18, 2012

morphius2036 said:
It gets even better starting the 22nd to upgrade there is a $30 charge on top of the phone cost itself.....T-Mobile here I come it looks like. Hell maybe Ma & Pa's small time wireless with two cans and a string.

That leaves you with just $12 in your pocket! T-mobile charges $18 for an upgrade... :/

morphius2036 · Apr 18, 2012

litetaker said:
That leaves you with just $12 in your pocket! T-mobile charges $18 for an upgrade... :/

Well it looks like two cans and a string is my next phone

litetaker · Apr 18, 2012

morphius2036 said:
Well it looks like two cans and a string is my next phone

LOL! Buy a long enough string, I wanna talk to ya!

The cellphone companies in this country are throttling innovation and inspiration, oh and the necks of their customers... Can't breathe.. here, Verizon, take this $10! Quick! Ahhh, much better...

in99flames · Apr 18, 2012

Yea, its sad that all carriers are doing this. I believe ATT charges $36 to upgrade. I think they may be the worst as far as this fee goes.

litetaker · Apr 18, 2012

in99flames said:
Yea, its sad that all carriers are doing this. I believe ATT charges $36 to upgrade. I think they may be the worst as far as this fee goes.

AT&T and sprint share that trophy. Back at my home you never paid for incoming texts and phone Calls. I know it is an alien concept. And competition drove the prices rock bottom, here competition forced Verizon to charge more!!!

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in99flames · Apr 18, 2012

Yea...I hear ya. I really can't complain terribly though....WHile i disagree completely with the fee...you cannot go anywhere else without this fee apparently unless you go to a small time carrier. I never have an issue with coverage and data speed it's always fast for me. with Verizon, I guess that is what really matters in your cell phone service. I'd rather pay a little more for reliability.

morphius2036 · Apr 18, 2012

Well not to go totally off topic but it a growing trend Playstation and Xbox with their new consoles are looking to kill the Used game market. You would have to pay an unlock fee for used games and the games will be tied to your PSN accounts or Live accounts and the possibility of disk less games.....Seems a growing trend of Consumer getting ****ed in the end.

litetaker · Apr 18, 2012

morphius2036 said:
Well not to go totally off topic but it a growing trend Playstation and Xbox with their new consoles are looking to kill the Used game market. You would have to pay an unlock fee for used games and the games will be tied to your PSN accounts or Live accounts and the possibility of disk less games.....Seems a growing trend of Consumer getting ****ed in the end.

All this discussion of screwing consumers reminds me of Eric Cartman cribbing with his mom for effing him in the ass for not buying him an ipad 64 GB... Lol!!!

that episode was hilarious

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