HTC ONE X LTE vs HTC ONE X International

PeterGuru · Apr 29, 2012

Can happen with ANY phone ...

blairh said:
HTC better pray that the screen flicker issue is not prevalent in the Snapdragon edition. If by some chance it is, the North American tech sites will explode with criticism. (And rightfully so.)

If I get the One X and experience anything of the sort, even for a brief moment (like described in the Twitter example in this thread), then I will return my phone and go back to the iPhone. That is inexcusable.

Inexcusable, yes; however, anything can happen with ANY phone, including the iPhone.

Peter

~David · Apr 29, 2012

PeterHTC said:
Inexcusable, yes; however, anything can happen with ANY phone, including the iPhone.

Peter

Maybe they're just holding it wrong.

mrpopgun · Apr 30, 2012

Pretty sure I've seen this question posted, but I can't seem to find it. Can the HOX mount a USB stick? It can be mounted as USB storage by a PC , but wondering if it can mount USB storage? If so, long flights become much easier - micro USB to female USB cable and movies on a thumb drive.

Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA

equlizer · Apr 30, 2012

you need the cable made just for that. It cant be used for anything else except memory sticks. Ebay has them for $3. USB OTG

BarryH_GEG · Apr 30, 2012

mrpopgun said:
Pretty sure I've seen this question posted, but I can't seem to find it. Can the HOX mount a USB stick? It can be mounted as USB storage by a PC , but wondering if it can mount USB storage? If so, long flights become much easier - micro USB to female USB cable and movies on a thumb drive.

Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA

The international version can't. Partly because of an Nvidia issue. Beyond that, what HTC's intentions are aren't clear. The S4 version could be different.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24299455&postcount=16

americasteam · Apr 30, 2012

PeterHTC said:
There isn't a great deal of light in my office, which could explain the noise and grain; however, I would agree that, in this VERY simple test, the Rogers unit takes better pictures.

I have to emphasize, though, that this is an overly simplified test. Bottom line, if I were to take similar pictures in a variety of lighting and contrast situations, there may be no difference at all. I don't know.

Although photography is one of my hobbies, I really would never think of using a mobile phone camera to take "GOOD" pictures ... and that applies to ALL mobile phones. However, given what's inside any modern smartphone, the camera in the ONE X, both versions, is incredible. The single thing about the ONE X camera that amazes me is the burst mode. It's truly astounding how many pictures this phone can take in such a short period of time.

Regarding video, I'll try to do a comparison another day. Unfortunately, I simply don't have time today, or in the next few days.

Peter

Photography is one of my old hobbies as well. It's just one sample, but I would rather see them both in low light than perfect lighting conditions. In perfect conditions, they should both take great pics. I also agree that I wouldn't use a mobile phone to take "GOOD" pictures, but I don't have my DSLR with me at all times. It's nice to have a capable shooter on your phone for taking everyday pics you would miss otherwise. We all thank you for you time posting all this info!

JSLEnterprises · Apr 30, 2012

Has anyone found the colour temperature of the xl to be a bit warm (~5500k)?

BarryH_GEG · Apr 30, 2012

JSLEnterprises said:
Has anyone found the colour temperature of the xl to be a bit warm (~5500k)?

Both the X and XL use displays from two different vendors. The Sensation did too. One display's cool, the other warm. There's been variations with cool being "blue" and warm being "yellow." You can try an exchange if your display's out of spec or if you purchased it from a flexible reseller. But technically, neither is right or wrong; just different.

Jookie01 · Apr 30, 2012

BarryH_GEG said:
Both the X and XL use displays from two different vendors. The Sensation did too. One display's cool, the other warm. There's been variations with cool being "blue" and warm being "yellow." You can try an exchange if your display's out of spec or if you purchased it from a flexible reseller. But technically, neither is right or wrong; just different.

I haven't noticed it but I only use my screen at 10% brightness to save on battery life.

JSLEnterprises · Apr 30, 2012

BarryH_GEG said:
Both the X and XL use displays from two different vendors. The Sensation did too. One display's cool, the other warm. There's been variations with cool being "blue" and warm being "yellow." You can try an exchange if your display's out of spec or if you purchased it from a flexible reseller. But technically, neither is right or wrong; just different.

... same with the old DHD variants... but even with the 3 different vendors for them, the color temp was pretty much the same.

One would expect it to easily be fixed in an update I wouldn't doubt.

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Jookie01 said:
I haven't noticed it but I only use my screen at 10% brightness to save on battery life.

I notice it excessively when leaving the brightness to auto. (I have mine set to about 40%)

PeterGuru · Apr 30, 2012

5500 is not warm ...

JSLEnterprises said:
Has anyone found the colour temperature of the xl to be a bit warm (~5500k)?

No offense, but 5500K is not warm. I know this area very well because my business is LED lighting, and colour temperatures are an integral part of our customers' specifications.

5000K = Neutral
Greater than 5000K = Cold
Less than 5000K = Warm

Peter

P.S. To answer your question, I can't say either way if they are a bit warm or a bit cold. I'd have to do some specific testing. If anything, my initial impression is that they are reasonably neutral.

Addendum: I didn't realize until after I sent my last reply, above, that you were referring to the unit's display, and not the images from the camera. I've read numerous entries here on xda about displays being either warm (yellow), or cold (blue). Although I've seen pretty good evidence of the yellow screens, both my units, the Rogers and the International ONE X, appear to have very neutral and extremely accurate colour rendering.

nativestranger · Apr 30, 2012

PeterHTC said:
There isn't a great deal of light in my office, which could explain the noise and grain; however, I would agree that, in this VERY simple test, the Rogers unit takes better pictures.

I have to emphasize, though, that this is an overly simplified test. Bottom line, if I were to take similar pictures in a variety of lighting and contrast situations, there may be no difference at all. I don't know.

Although photography is one of my hobbies, I really would never think of using a mobile phone camera to take "GOOD" pictures ... and that applies to ALL mobile phones. However, given what's inside any modern smartphone, the camera in the ONE X, both versions, is incredible. The single thing about the ONE X camera that amazes me is the burst mode. It's truly astounding how many pictures this phone can take in such a short period of time.

Regarding video, I'll try to do a comparison another day. Unfortunately, I simply don't have time today, or in the next few days.

Peter

Looks much better on the dual core version. Less noise and sharpening artifact. But its hard to be sure when the focus point is much further back on the tegra version. Can you repeat the test with both focused at the same point?

PeterGuru · Apr 30, 2012

More Image Comparisons ...

nativestranger said:
Looks much better on the dual core version. Less noise and sharpening artifact. But its hard to be sure when the focus point is much further back on the tegra version. Can you repeat the test with both focused at the same point?

I did the test again, but this time I focused on the exact same point (marked by RED circle), and I tried my very best to position both phones in exactly the same spot.

Here are smaller images, side-by-side. The Rogers unit is on the left.

Here is the original Rogers image, no processing, all camera settings identical:

Here is the original International image, no processing, all camera settings identical:

Again, I'd have to say that the Rogers unit provides a truer image with slightly less noise, although, the differences this time are very small. In fact, they are almost unnoticeable.

Peter

Addendum: Here are two 100% cropped images for further comparison:

Rogers on Top

Maedhros · Apr 30, 2012

JSLEnterprises said:
... same with the old DHD variants... but even with the 3 different vendors for them, the color temp was pretty much the same.

One would expect it to easily be fixed in an update I wouldn't doubt.

---------- Post added at 02:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:19 AM ----------

I notice it excessively when leaving the brightness to auto. (I have mine set to about 40%)

Yes, mine was the same as yours. It looks "ok". But compared to the White display... your missing out. I suggest exchanging it.

nativestranger · Apr 30, 2012

PeterHTC said:
I did the test again, but this time I focused on the exact same point (marked by RED circle), and I tried my very best to position both phones in exactly the same spot.

Here are smaller images, side-by-side. The Rogers unit is on the left.

Here is the original International image, no processing, all camera settings identical:

Again, I'd have to say that the Rogers unit provides a truer image with slightly less noise, although, the differences this time are very small. In fact, they are almost unnoticeable.

Peter

Addendum: Here are two 100% cropped images for further comparison:

Rogers on Top

Thanks for the images. Which phone provides the better user experience so far?

mesasone · Apr 30, 2012

Weird, looking at the EXIF data from the International and NA One X's, there are a lot of fields that aren't populated on the North American version but are on the International version. Perhaps they aren't running the same version of the camera software. Could be that different versions of the camera software are processing the image data differently.

JSLEnterprises · Apr 30, 2012

Pete, if you have your One X (Teg 3 model) rooted, go into system/etc/ and edit mediaprofiles.xml and scroll down to the image encoding lines (should be after the initial video encoding lines).

change the values to 100, and increase the memcap then save (if you used es file explorer's text editor it'll automatically made a backup - .bak, so you'll be able to revert the changes afterwards)

reboot (turn off fastboot in the power settings first)
and then retake a picture... see if there's any improvement. (quite possibly the teg3 model is compressing the images more than the xl model)

PeterGuru · Apr 30, 2012

You are correct re EXIF data ...

mesasone said:
Weird, looking at the EXIF data from the International and NA One X's, there are a lot of fields that aren't populated on the North American version but are on the International version. Perhaps they aren't running the same version of the camera software. Could be that different versions of the camera software are processing the image data differently.

You're right. I mentioned this unusual difference in my first post with the image comparisons. The International unit has much more EXIF information than the Rogers unit. Why? Not sure.

Peter

PeterGuru · Apr 30, 2012

I'm biased, but ...

nativestranger said:
Thanks for the images. Which phone provides the better user experience so far?

I have to admit some bias here because I'm a big fan of LTE, which I take advantage of regularly, although, perhaps not often.

For this reason alone I prefer the Rogers unit; however, all things considered, both are incredibly good phones.

Peter

PeterGuru · Apr 30, 2012

I'll check and test again tomorrow morning ...

JSLEnterprises said:
Pete, if you have your One X (Teg 3 model) rooted, go into system/etc/ and edit mediaprofiles.xml and scroll down to the image encoding lines (should be after the initial video encoding lines).

change the values to 100, and increase the memcap then save (if you used es file explorer's text editor it'll automatically made a backup - .bak, so you'll be able to revert the changes afterwards)

reboot (turn off fastboot in the power settings first)
and then retake a picture... see if there's any improvement. (quite possibly the teg3 model is compressing the images more than the xl model)

I'll check and test the Tegra3 version tomorrow morning.

Peter

P.S. I noticed something quite amazing. You've had 957 total posts, and 955 "Thanks." Quite astounding, if I may say so.

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