Comparison new battery for Galaxy Note with Chinese noname battery

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aidjek

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Nov 3, 2012
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Chisinau
Introduction

Firstly, I want to pay attention on costliness of this battery in comparison with Chinese analogues, which can be found on eBay. I have ordered the following Chinese battery, and also arranged the following 5400 mAh battery with Mugen Power representative.
In the following review I will test 4 kinds of batteries: battery from Mugen Power (5400 mAh) - example #1, Chinese Noname analog (5200 mAh) - example #2, battery from Mugen Power (4500 mAh) - example #3, standard battery from Samsung (2500 mAh) - example #4.
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From left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)

Delivery
Example #1 delivered in vesicular polyethylene with instruction and solid package. Battery Door Back cover from example #3 completely similar with example #1.
558d03620f4429ee7b2f47bc35a43b90.png

Battery package from Mugen Power 5400 mAh

Chinese noname #2 also delivered in solid package with vesicular polyethylene inside.
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Chinese battery package 5200 mAh

Both packages have sent in the same time and delivered after 25 days +/- 1-2 day.

Appearance

As I have told before, example #1 Battery Door Back cover perfect came up to example #3, but Chinese battery #2 immediately disappointeded me:
- firstly - "native" back plane of battery don't want to enter to "native" slots phone case
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Incorrect slots on Chinese battery 5200 mAh back cover

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The incorrect slots became cause that back cover won't completely closed

- secondly - example #2 was thicker than, example #1 or 4 and back cover from Mugen Power batteries cannot become worthy replacement for Chinese battery
d0e732565ef5ebea123c305a3602aba8.png

Comparison dimensions of examples #1, #2 and #4

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All examples (can observe what examples #1 and #3 are equal)

The back covers have a different view
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Comparison of back covers for examples #1 and #2

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Comparison of back covers for all examples

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Phone with battery and without back cover(up-to-down example #1 and #2)

be0b77dc0a2c1b495a249157e994c4e6.png

The general look of the phone

Testing.
Testing was done on the 3 directions:
- Loading test from Antutu Tester;
- Test for charging battery from 1% till 100%;
- Maximum endurance test time.
For all batteries have created similar conditions: Wi-Fi and 3G were enable all the time, phone has using for web-surfing and for books reading during time directly proportional to the battery capacity

1. Loading test from Antutu Tester
3dc5ffaace0556caf2ff7b2b31045e1c.png

From-left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)

I was surprised by performance for the example #2, twice rechecked data

2. Test for charging battery from 1% till 100%
c88add761f5732e4da0f1e82a5cf689e.png

From-left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)

3. Maximum endurance test time
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From-left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)

Conclusions:
It was my goal to determine whether two batteries from almost the same place but with different cost (example #1 approximately 8 times more expensive than the example #2) can compete with each other?
My answer is - No, they cannot because of the following flaws of the example #2:
- incorrect back plane cover, which not suitable with phone case slots;
- not very distinctive capacity and very distinctive maximum time of work;
- and i'm not sure, if this miracle of Chinese thought will not explode my phone;

The low cost and the unreliability or the high cost and the quality - the choice is yours.
 

Dsteppa

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May 7, 2012
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Nice topic.
Though the gap from 4500 to 2500 is a bit big, would be nicer if you could also include batteries that are as big as the stock.
For example 3500mAH.

On another note:
When I look at the services that are running:
@ 5200 & 4500 mAh I notice that the screen service is on top.
@ 5400 & 2500 mAh I notice Android OS service on top.

So I've got no clue how you tested them all.
 
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beejers

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Feb 6, 2008
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Dayton
Great write up.

Did you clear battery stats between tests and let them recharge a couple of cycles? Or is that necessary?
 

xudsa II USERT

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#example 2 battery cover was designed for NFC Galaxy Notes! :) Look at the contacts. So it probably wont fit the N7000 well.
 
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baz77

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great write up, thanks!

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
 
May 18, 2012
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Great write up.

Did you clear battery stats between tests and let them recharge a couple of cycles? Or is that necessary?

Not necessary when it comes to li-ion batteries, but necessary when it comes to the phone itself. I think he should have done the calibration process that is required for an extended battery to be recognized by the phone. Mugen has it here.
 

aidjek

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Nov 3, 2012
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Chisinau
Not necessary when it comes to li-ion batteries, but necessary when it comes to the phone itself. I think he should have done the calibration process that is required for an extended battery to be recognized by the phone. Mugen has it here.

Nice topic.
Though the gap from 4500 to 2500 is a bit big, would be nicer if you could also include batteries that are as big as the stock.
For example 3500mAH.

On another note:
When I look at the services that are running:
@ 5200 & 4500 mAh I notice that the screen service is on top.
@ 5400 & 2500 mAh I notice Android OS service on top.

So I've got no clue how you tested them all.

I have tried to create same conditions for use during all my day for every battery, may be anything was going wrong ... who knows. (
 

smeddy

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Apr 1, 2009
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I'd like to add my two cents on my super-duper massive extended battery. If this post is messy, I apologise but writing it at work!

For those who want the quick version, I have tested perhaps 9 different ways of extending battery life - from external packs to replacement batteries - and I highly recommend these two devices - or, alternatively, two official batteries with the external battery charger

First... (Not a battery:)):

Yoobao External charger - 11,200maH: £39.99

31dFbAxPh-L._SL500_.jpg


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yoobao-11200mA-Portable-Battery-Charger/dp/B005MBX6L2

Why?

- A huge capacity (11,200maH), which would charge a typical battery five times
- Two USB ports to charge two devices at once (which saves so many people's lives!)
- Recharges via micro-USB cable (which also means that you can use the same cable to both charge this device, and then swap ports and charge the Note)
- The size of a 2.5" hard drive

Basically, I love this, and slip it in my bag whenever I have it.

But more importantly, for this is a battery thread:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160742439228?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

by ebay user: gpsforless-uk

(PICS ATTACHED)

My previous batteries have included:
- Two official batteries
- One third-party '3250maH' battery (the 'gold' one, which was as good as the officials but I didn't sense much better life from it)
- the '5,000 Mah' battery (#2 in the first post). DO NOT BUY. For me, it seemed perhaps a little better than a stock battery, but certainly not twice as much life, and for the bulk it added ... not good.

So... I was let down by the #2 battery, and a few days later ordered the one above.

It cost £15.99, and came about 20 days later.

Why do I recommend?

After two weeks of intensive use, this is by far the best battery I have had for the Samsung Note.

-For the first time ever (perhaps on any of my phones in the last five years), the dreaded battery anxiety has gone. I've noticed the cloud lift over the last week, of not having to worry about battery life.
- I use my phone INTENSIVELY. Even if I have no need for it, I sit and fiddle with it all day, but normally I use it for more than an hour of video playback, lots of camera use, lots of web browsing, GPS/Google Maps, constant emails, texts, calls, as a WiFi Hotspot, games, using as a media remote on my PC.
- On a typical day, using this way, my original Samsung battery would last until about 8pm if I was lucky. This was with plenty of tweaks in CM10, using apps like Green Power etc.
- On this battery, I am generally on around 48% by 8pm
- My phone will remain on 100% for an hour after I take the charger off, and will generally drop 1% an hour (if left sleeping but connected to wifi, network etc)
- I can watch a half-hour program (e.g. Family Guy) and only drop 3-4%

Now, I should spend time testing the battery fully, do some run-down tests, do some intensive benchmarking etc, and who knows, as the months go by, maybe the capacity will drop. But for now - very very happy.

Other thoughts:
- I love having a kickstand - it's my big need on a phone and I've always been making stands, buying stands, trying to attach stands, buying phone wallets with stands etc
- The phone looks bigger, and while the back case is a bit cheap-looking, it fits well and actually makes the phone feel more comfortable to hold
- Naturally, I cannot use any cases (except a pouch, which I don't like) with my phone, so I am much more likely to run the risk of damaging it and dropping it.
- Two day-to-day problems I could face: I have the official desktop stand/battery charger, but because the battery charger charges the batteries 'the wrong way round', I can only charge the extended battery within the phone, which is a bit of a pain (but not the battery's fault).
- Also, I can't switch between the extended battery and the standard battery without carrying my original back-case around with me - as I assume the original battery would fall out in such a giant case.

But there you go: I've been on the Note for seven/eight months, the S2 before that, and the HD2 before that, and battery has always been my biggest issue with the smartphone market. But from this week, for me, the problem is resolved.

I'd highly recommend this battery. I know my write-up is more 'real world thoughts' than stats/screenshots, but I'd not hesitate to recommend. Especially combined with the Yoobao or similar, I have no problems anymore, and can use my Note as a constant tablet without any anxiety.

EDIT: I've uploaded a battery life image. As you can see, after 10 hours I was down to 25%, but note that my screen on was probably about 5/6 hours, and I was on GPS a LOT more than what the stats show (I was in Venice for the weekend, and switching GPS on and off probably three times an hour for 5 minutes apiece).
 

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    Introduction

    Firstly, I want to pay attention on costliness of this battery in comparison with Chinese analogues, which can be found on eBay. I have ordered the following Chinese battery, and also arranged the following 5400 mAh battery with Mugen Power representative.
    In the following review I will test 4 kinds of batteries: battery from Mugen Power (5400 mAh) - example #1, Chinese Noname analog (5200 mAh) - example #2, battery from Mugen Power (4500 mAh) - example #3, standard battery from Samsung (2500 mAh) - example #4.
    d26643b8dc74dbbacc4f161d7884502d.png

    From left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)

    Delivery
    Example #1 delivered in vesicular polyethylene with instruction and solid package. Battery Door Back cover from example #3 completely similar with example #1.
    558d03620f4429ee7b2f47bc35a43b90.png

    Battery package from Mugen Power 5400 mAh

    Chinese noname #2 also delivered in solid package with vesicular polyethylene inside.
    33dd8175a79e68274e9ff9765b90db23.png

    Chinese battery package 5200 mAh

    Both packages have sent in the same time and delivered after 25 days +/- 1-2 day.

    Appearance

    As I have told before, example #1 Battery Door Back cover perfect came up to example #3, but Chinese battery #2 immediately disappointeded me:
    - firstly - "native" back plane of battery don't want to enter to "native" slots phone case
    8a820186e8b6bf41b26a1113e998469f.png


    78b25ee93d34d53c2d1fb36215ee1635.png

    Incorrect slots on Chinese battery 5200 mAh back cover

    259033027c027b9fed03944d16f9825f.png


    731e785aa8f22cbe07ceee1808908503.png

    The incorrect slots became cause that back cover won't completely closed

    - secondly - example #2 was thicker than, example #1 or 4 and back cover from Mugen Power batteries cannot become worthy replacement for Chinese battery
    d0e732565ef5ebea123c305a3602aba8.png

    Comparison dimensions of examples #1, #2 and #4

    df9938163cd00773b1c4daa9a011450c.png

    All examples (can observe what examples #1 and #3 are equal)

    The back covers have a different view
    3b6e5439114d16556413a60661314bba.png

    Comparison of back covers for examples #1 and #2

    5cce4c273fb290a734fc4103901a4e61.png

    Comparison of back covers for all examples

    08436e3412dd7f0120ca870111dbfbcb.png

    Phone with battery and without back cover(up-to-down example #1 and #2)

    be0b77dc0a2c1b495a249157e994c4e6.png

    The general look of the phone

    Testing.
    Testing was done on the 3 directions:
    - Loading test from Antutu Tester;
    - Test for charging battery from 1% till 100%;
    - Maximum endurance test time.
    For all batteries have created similar conditions: Wi-Fi and 3G were enable all the time, phone has using for web-surfing and for books reading during time directly proportional to the battery capacity

    1. Loading test from Antutu Tester
    3dc5ffaace0556caf2ff7b2b31045e1c.png

    From-left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)

    I was surprised by performance for the example #2, twice rechecked data

    2. Test for charging battery from 1% till 100%
    c88add761f5732e4da0f1e82a5cf689e.png

    From-left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)

    3. Maximum endurance test time
    8e4899994f2c27634fc12ffcb1020ab5.png

    From-left-to-right (example #1, #2, #3 and #4)

    Conclusions:
    It was my goal to determine whether two batteries from almost the same place but with different cost (example #1 approximately 8 times more expensive than the example #2) can compete with each other?
    My answer is - No, they cannot because of the following flaws of the example #2:
    - incorrect back plane cover, which not suitable with phone case slots;
    - not very distinctive capacity and very distinctive maximum time of work;
    - and i'm not sure, if this miracle of Chinese thought will not explode my phone;

    The low cost and the unreliability or the high cost and the quality - the choice is yours.
    2
    I'd like to add my two cents on my super-duper massive extended battery. If this post is messy, I apologise but writing it at work!

    For those who want the quick version, I have tested perhaps 9 different ways of extending battery life - from external packs to replacement batteries - and I highly recommend these two devices - or, alternatively, two official batteries with the external battery charger

    First... (Not a battery:)):

    Yoobao External charger - 11,200maH: £39.99

    31dFbAxPh-L._SL500_.jpg


    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yoobao-11200mA-Portable-Battery-Charger/dp/B005MBX6L2

    Why?

    - A huge capacity (11,200maH), which would charge a typical battery five times
    - Two USB ports to charge two devices at once (which saves so many people's lives!)
    - Recharges via micro-USB cable (which also means that you can use the same cable to both charge this device, and then swap ports and charge the Note)
    - The size of a 2.5" hard drive

    Basically, I love this, and slip it in my bag whenever I have it.

    But more importantly, for this is a battery thread:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160742439228?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    by ebay user: gpsforless-uk

    (PICS ATTACHED)

    My previous batteries have included:
    - Two official batteries
    - One third-party '3250maH' battery (the 'gold' one, which was as good as the officials but I didn't sense much better life from it)
    - the '5,000 Mah' battery (#2 in the first post). DO NOT BUY. For me, it seemed perhaps a little better than a stock battery, but certainly not twice as much life, and for the bulk it added ... not good.

    So... I was let down by the #2 battery, and a few days later ordered the one above.

    It cost £15.99, and came about 20 days later.

    Why do I recommend?

    After two weeks of intensive use, this is by far the best battery I have had for the Samsung Note.

    -For the first time ever (perhaps on any of my phones in the last five years), the dreaded battery anxiety has gone. I've noticed the cloud lift over the last week, of not having to worry about battery life.
    - I use my phone INTENSIVELY. Even if I have no need for it, I sit and fiddle with it all day, but normally I use it for more than an hour of video playback, lots of camera use, lots of web browsing, GPS/Google Maps, constant emails, texts, calls, as a WiFi Hotspot, games, using as a media remote on my PC.
    - On a typical day, using this way, my original Samsung battery would last until about 8pm if I was lucky. This was with plenty of tweaks in CM10, using apps like Green Power etc.
    - On this battery, I am generally on around 48% by 8pm
    - My phone will remain on 100% for an hour after I take the charger off, and will generally drop 1% an hour (if left sleeping but connected to wifi, network etc)
    - I can watch a half-hour program (e.g. Family Guy) and only drop 3-4%

    Now, I should spend time testing the battery fully, do some run-down tests, do some intensive benchmarking etc, and who knows, as the months go by, maybe the capacity will drop. But for now - very very happy.

    Other thoughts:
    - I love having a kickstand - it's my big need on a phone and I've always been making stands, buying stands, trying to attach stands, buying phone wallets with stands etc
    - The phone looks bigger, and while the back case is a bit cheap-looking, it fits well and actually makes the phone feel more comfortable to hold
    - Naturally, I cannot use any cases (except a pouch, which I don't like) with my phone, so I am much more likely to run the risk of damaging it and dropping it.
    - Two day-to-day problems I could face: I have the official desktop stand/battery charger, but because the battery charger charges the batteries 'the wrong way round', I can only charge the extended battery within the phone, which is a bit of a pain (but not the battery's fault).
    - Also, I can't switch between the extended battery and the standard battery without carrying my original back-case around with me - as I assume the original battery would fall out in such a giant case.

    But there you go: I've been on the Note for seven/eight months, the S2 before that, and the HD2 before that, and battery has always been my biggest issue with the smartphone market. But from this week, for me, the problem is resolved.

    I'd highly recommend this battery. I know my write-up is more 'real world thoughts' than stats/screenshots, but I'd not hesitate to recommend. Especially combined with the Yoobao or similar, I have no problems anymore, and can use my Note as a constant tablet without any anxiety.

    EDIT: I've uploaded a battery life image. As you can see, after 10 hours I was down to 25%, but note that my screen on was probably about 5/6 hours, and I was on GPS a LOT more than what the stats show (I was in Venice for the weekend, and switching GPS on and off probably three times an hour for 5 minutes apiece).