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22nd November 2012, 09:44 PM |#41  
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How about a quick link to auto launch Tytung backup program ?
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Tom

Today I've read much about initrd.gz and have extract the file of Xylographs great 4extrecovery... it's very interesting... do you know, if someone has build a mini-OS (like the 4extrecovery), that auto launch a aroma-zip-file (like Tytungs great backup tool)? If I or we can build it, I would integrate it in my NativeSD-tool from first post...

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27th November 2012, 10:52 AM |#42  
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Tested on my HD2 with wm6.5 for both NSD & Classic SD. It's fantastic.

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28th November 2012, 09:43 AM |#43  
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Hi,
I've developed a tool for dual/triple/quadro/... booting the NativeSD-Roms from Windows Mobile 6.5

Thank you very much for your so needed project!
However would you ponder to advance even one step further and make Android version of your Multiple Android-Starter?
Why not to bypass WM6.5 when switching between various NativeSD Androids?
Why not to make it possible to boot another NativeSD ROM directly from other curently running Android ROM, in the same fashion as it is done from WM6.5 (via haret.exe & clrcad.exe)?
It should be feasible to implement even easier than for WM6.5 - maybe some sort of chroot, how do you think?

Your project here allows to start any NativeSD ROM but from WM6.5...
However after Android ROM is already started this way then if you wish to switch to another NativeSD Android ROM you had to reboot the phone, start WM6.5 first and only then to choose another Android via your tool. It is cumbersome, time and battery consuming.
Personally speaking, it is the main obstacle discouraging me from having WM6.5 installed on NAND. In fact I need WM6.5 and NativeSD scheme renders Android on NAND of no gain, so my NAND stays idle for now (if not to mention cLK and sboot...xboot partitons).
So, Android version of your Multiple Android-Starter would make the great difference!
28th November 2012, 05:12 PM |#44  
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Thank you very much for your so needed project!
However would you ponder to advance even one step further and make Android version of your Multiple Android-Starter?
Why not to bypass WM6.5 when switching between various NativeSD Androids?
Why not to make it possible to boot another NativeSD ROM directly from other curently running Android ROM, in the same fashion as it is done from WM6.5 (via haret.exe & clrcad.exe)?
It should be feasible to implement even easier than for WM6.5 - maybe some sort of chroot, how do you think?

Your project here allows to start any NativeSD ROM but from WM6.5...
However after Android ROM is already started this way then if you wish to switch to another NativeSD Android ROM you had to reboot the phone, start WM6.5 first and only then to choose another Android via your tool. It is cumbersome, time and battery consuming.
Personally speaking, it is the main obstacle discouraging me from having WM6.5 installed on NAND. In fact I need WM6.5 and NativeSD scheme renders Android on NAND of no gain, so my NAND stays idle for now (if not to mention cLK and sboot...xboot partitons).
So, Android version of your Multiple Android-Starter would make the great difference!

Hi,
thanks for your feedback. In an other thread, you have seen datadr's great tool... this is the ultimate android tool for NativeSD...

My tool is not a bootloader, it's the WindowsMobile tool to start NativeSD-ROMs. It's for people (like me), who need the best of both worlds (some apps with WinMob, some apps with android) and who want to have a simple tool to switch. Also it uses the great advantage of NativeSD, that you can use different android version...

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30th November 2012, 06:50 PM |#45  
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Of course, o82239, but I've rather meant to fast switch between various NativeSD Android ROMs without rebooting the device. If you have WM6.5 on NAND then first you have to boot WM and only afterwards from top of it you may start one of your NativeSD ROMs. So, if you're already in your started this way NativeSD Android and want to run another ROM from your NativeSD installations then you must to reboot the phone and treat your WM as sort of bootloader.
So why not to start one Android from another Android in the same fashion as you used to start an Android from WM so far?
30th November 2012, 09:42 PM |#46  
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Of course, o82239, but I've rather meant to fast switch between various NativeSD Android ROMs without rebooting the device. If you have WM6.5 on NAND then first you have to boot WM and only afterwards from top of it you may start one of your NativeSD ROMs. So, if you're already in your started this way NativeSD Android and want to run another ROM from your NativeSD installations then you must to reboot the phone and treat your WM as sort of bootloader.
So why not to start one Android from another Android in the same fashion as you used to start an Android from WM so far?

Hi,
because my tool isn't a bootloader, you have to start WinMob. But if you accept a delay of 10-15 sec., you can automatically start it in WinMob. You only have to create a shortcut in the AutoStart-folder (p.a. with Total Commander or other filemanager, see the next picture) and reboot the phone.
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P.S.: I also tried the regkeys ( HKLM/init/Launch* ) and it starts, but it's not almost on the top and its only some milliseconds faster...

P.S.S: If you want a android-tool -> use the great tool from datagr and a bootloader like magldr or clk... datagr's tool copies the relevant files too and could reboot android to start into the bootloader...

Try it and report, what do you think about the startup-folder...

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17th December 2012, 09:40 PM |#47  
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quick auto launch tytung backup...
Hi @all WinMobil/Android user,
some day ago I wrote:
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... How about a quick link to auto launch Tytung backup program ?
Cheers
Tom

Today I've read much about initrd.gz and have extract the file of Xylographs great 4extrecovery... it's very interesting... do you know, if someone has build a mini-OS (like the 4extrecovery), that auto launch a aroma-zip-file (like Tytungs great backup tool)? If I or we can build it, I would integrate it in my NativeSD-tool from first post...

today I've build the mini-android, which only starts Tytungs backup/recovery program... I've only tested it with original htc-WinMobile-6.5 ROM.

Installation:
  1. download the great 4extrecovery from Xylograph, extract and copy all files to the SD-Card in the folder 4extrecovery
  2. download the great Tytung backup program (or from his NativeSD Touch Recovery website) and copy the zip-file in the root of the SD-Card
  3. rename the "initrd.gz" from the 4extrecovery-folder to "initrd.gz.xylo"
  4. download the "initrd.gz" from this post and copy it in the 4extrecovery-folder on the SD-Card
  5. copy the "initrd.gz" to "initrd.gz.tytung"
  6. start my tool of the first post and boot into "Recovery"...
...now, after round about 15 sec. the backup/recovery-tool is started...
  • If you want to go back to the original 4extrecovery: Copy "initrd.gz.xylo" to "initrd.gz" (in the 4extrecovery-folder of the SD-Card)
  • If you want to go back to the Tytung backup tool in the 4extrecovery: Copy the "initrd.gz.tytung" to "initrd.gz" (in the 4extrecovery-folder of the SD-Card)

Note: This is the very first release with hard coded folder and zip-files. If we all want to have an other folder, other tools or other things, let us discuss.

Please test it, if it works on your phones and give me a feedback...

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Klaus
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18th December 2012, 10:10 PM |#48  
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Please test it, if it works on your phones and give me a feedback...


Cheers
Klaus

Hi Klaus, working fine in my new rom
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15th January 2013, 08:48 PM |#49  
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new version 5
Hi,
I've updated the tool (version 5) in the first post of this thread.

Changes in version 5:
- Add List of the recovery-versions (4EXTRecovery or twrp)
- New sort-order (NativeSD-ROMs on the top)

Thanks to poyensa for the feedback ...

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20th January 2013, 03:22 PM |#51  
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version 5 supports "Recovery for tytung-backuptool"
Hi,
info: Version 5 supports
Recovery for tytung-backuptool (WinMo 6.5 + NativeSD-Android)
The first post of this thread is updated

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