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kurdish11

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Okay so I bought an S4 off craigslist and the next day he reports it stolen and blacklists it, I contact his friend trying to work it out (note: everything we said to each other was over texts, so I have them still as proof - and I got his friends number the day I met him.. he deactivated his service).. he said he doesn't know why his friend blacklisted it but he would call AT&T to unblock it, shortly after he said he did it.. I waited patiently but to realize that it was still blocked so I text him again, he doesnt respond for a full day so I told him I will call the Police. He must have gotten scared because he finally responds and unblocks it.... I used it for a couple hours, then my service cuts off and he sends me this long message telling me that he blocked it again and is calling the cops because I threatened him?. I never said anything threatening to him but whatever....

So I call the police, report everything and tell them the story. A couple hours later a detective calls me and asks if I would like to prosecute, I agreed... so now Im waiting to see what happened...

What do you guys think? I should easily win right, I have all the proof. All the texts.. from before I purchased and from after.. and I have his original craigslist post....

I told this guy 100 times to either unblock it or just give my money back and id cancel the prosecution but he didnt respond, so whatever. ..


Anybody been through something similiar?. Think I should win? He clearly commited insurance fraud... and must have created a police report to report his "stolen" phone..




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kurdish11

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Yeah definetly, I flip phones every now and then on craigslist but only meet in public areas infront of cameras, and I make sure its a real number. Which in this case it was, he must have thought I was bluffing when I said I would call the police.. I just turned 20, I really don't have time for this mess with school and work.. I gave the detective his information and he said he located him and spoke with him, and will me a line up after the weekend.. I mean seriously? Just give me back my money dude, why even risk jail time when I told him id drop charges...... people these days are ridiculous...

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That's... really messed up. You should definitely win. So long as you have all that information condemning him, I don't see any reason why you should lose. Obviously this guy is retarded because he doesn't realize that he will be convicted of fraud (against you), insurance fraud, lying to the police, and possibly other things. Over a phone? How much could this guy possibly make from a scam like that? A few hundred bucks maybe, and obviously can't keep doing this because AT&T would catch on to the fact that he keeps buying phones from them with insurance and losing them.

This dude is so pathetic I kind of feel bad for him...
 
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dxwilliams40

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I sell phones on Craigslist all the time and this is why it is no longer a good practice. Can no longer trust anyone and that causes more low ball offers.

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REDFOCZ

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I just got my s4 this past Thursday through craigslist, I told the guy that for us to make a deal we would have to meet at a corporate AT&T store to have the phone verified and documented that I purchased his phone . to make sure there was no back lash on me.

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I just got my s4 this past Thursday through craigslist, I told the guy that for us to make a deal we would have to meet at a corporate AT&T store to have the phone verified and documented that I purchased his phone . to make sure there was no back lash on me.

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Way too much work. I'd rather pay full price for a phone. don't have time to deal with CL idiots anymore.
 

Cusa

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I stopped using cl a long time ago, can't trust anybody these days.

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rich81420

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Agree... I'll do it in the store next time. Thx for the story. Good luck.

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Slade8525

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legal ways around this...

ask for purchase reciept with signature name and id
ask for his/her id
go to local att/tmob/verizon whatever store and and confirm IMIE/serial belongs to seller
ask for manager and tell them phone is being sold not stolen (or call)

friend sells/buys phones off CL all the time, unless they agree to all the above he wont deal with them. only way to be safe. also, i would report the guy who did it; thats insurance fraud, falsifying a police report, and some minor infractions. you have his number? call him leave message and tell him you will report insurance fraud; they will pursue it.
 

kurdish11

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I have a detective on the case already, he deactivated his number but he was stupid enough to tell me where he lives and gave me.his friends number the day I purchased it.

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galaxy808

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I sell my old phones on CL and have noticed people are being extra paranoid these days.

When I sold my iphone 5 the buyer asked for the imei # I refused to give it over the text. how do I know what this person plans to do with it?

of course they asked if it was stolen, I obviously said no. I showed them the original box, even the shipping box it came it, I of course removed my address. Let them pop in their sim card and they were satisfied.

I'm curious to know how much you bought your 2nd hand S4 for? I would think someone looking to scam someone would try to make a quick buck with people that aren't gonna think twice to buy it if it's too cheap.

Let's say like 300? no one in their right mind would sell you an S4 for half of what it costs new, of course unless if they were going to scam you... I would be suspicious of it before I agree to buy something that seems too cheap...
 

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Okay so I bought an S4 off craigslist and the next day he reports it stolen and blacklists it, I contact his friend trying to work it out (note: everything we said to each other was over texts, so I have them still as proof - and I got his friends number the day I met him.. he deactivated his service).. he said he doesn't know why his friend blacklisted it but he would call AT&T to unblock it, shortly after he said he did it.. I waited patiently but to realize that it was still blocked so I text him again, he doesnt respond for a full day so I told him I will call the Police. He must have gotten scared because he finally responds and unblocks it.... I used it for a couple hours, then my service cuts off and he sends me this long message telling me that he blocked it again and is calling the cops because I threatened him?. I never said anything threatening to him but whatever....

So I call the police, report everything and tell them the story. A couple hours later a detective calls me and asks if I would like to prosecute, I agreed... so now Im waiting to see what happened...

What do you guys think? I should easily win right, I have all the proof. All the texts.. from before I purchased and from after.. and I have his original craigslist post....

I told this guy 100 times to either unblock it or just give my money back and id cancel the prosecution but he didnt respond, so whatever. ..


Anybody been through something similiar?. Think I should win? He clearly commited insurance fraud... and must have created a police report to report his "stolen" phone..




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You will win. You can take him to small claims court and have him pay the fees too.

See if you can get a cache of his ad just in case for evidence. Most likely he'll cave in and refund you.

Show him all of your evidence and say "we can take this to court and I'm sure I will win."

On a side note, what an awesome detective working your case. I'm sure he's very busy too. These guys have back logs of cases not resolved and have to work tons of overtime.

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kurdish11

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I sell my old phones on CL and have noticed people are being extra paranoid these days.

When I sold my iphone 5 the buyer asked for the imei # I refused to give it over the text. how do I know what this person plans to do with it?

of course they asked if it was stolen, I obviously said no. I showed them the original box, even the shipping box it came it, I of course removed my address. Let them pop in their sim card and they were satisfied.

I'm curious to know how much you bought your 2nd hand S4 for? I would think someone looking to scam someone would try to make a quick buck with people that aren't gonna think twice to buy it if it's too cheap.

Let's say like 300? no one in their right mind would sell you an S4 for half of what it costs new, of course unless if they were going to scam you... I would be suspicious of it before I agree to buy something that seems too cheap...










300 is right. But it was in bad condition, the frame was jacked up. Other than that nope. I thought I just ran into some idiot.. turns out I was right, an idiot he was.

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You will win. You can take him to small claims court and have him pay the fees too.

See if you can get a cache of his ad just in case for evidence. Most likely he'll cave in and refund you.

Show him all of your evidence and say "we can take this to court and I'm sure I will win."

On a side note, what an awesome detective working your case. I'm sure he's very busy too. These guys have back logs of cases not resolved and have to work tons of overtime.

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It's not small claims though, the detective asked if I would like to prosecute him in court and I said yes. Later asked if it would be small claims and he said no, so im guessing its the real deal... anybody know if any fees will have to be paid out of my pocket for court?

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    Update!

    Okay so I went in at 10am to the police department and met up with the detective working on my case for the first time.. it was a brief meeting, only about 5 minutes. He showed me a line up, I located the guy in the blink of an eye, circled him and that was it. We joked for a few and he said he would need me to come again on Monday to sign the warrant he issued for his arrest..



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    dont drop the charges. he wasted your time, time and stress youll never get back. No matter what, dont drop anything, people like that should be taught a lesson to make sure they think twice before attempting fraud
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    I didn't misunderstand. I know the OP purchased the phone legally, But your statement " but many of us have old/broken phones with valid #s. It would be nice to be able to transfer an IMEI from an old phone to a new one in order to get it working while staying legal"

    implies that there is a source of "good" phones to replace "old broken" phones. Unless all these good phones are the result of the same insurance scam by owners (unlikely), they must be stolen.

    And even if everyone with broken phones, bought phones from legitimate owners that are pulling insurance scams, the phone then actually belongs to the insurance company if the insurance company paid the original owner.

    It sucks but the buyer is screwed - there is no way around that, and trying to find a way to legitimize this is wrong.

    I seem to recall a mod telling us to shut up about IMEI switching, you're feeding him lets end this now and get back on subject please. The subject is kurdish's issue with the blacklisted IMEI as part of an insurance scam and I for one am very interested in hearing how this turns out first off because who doesn't love gossip? Secondly it would be nice to know how to handle this the most effectively and what the possible outcomes are should I ever end up in this situation. So unless you have personal experience with the situation hes in why don't y'all two take it to PM.
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    ok so you want to tear your head off, correct?
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    Okay so I bought an S4 off craigslist and the next day he reports it stolen and blacklists it, I contact his friend trying to work it out (note: everything we said to each other was over texts, so I have them still as proof - and I got his friends number the day I met him.. he deactivated his service).. he said he doesn't know why his friend blacklisted it but he would call AT&T to unblock it, shortly after he said he did it.. I waited patiently but to realize that it was still blocked so I text him again, he doesnt respond for a full day so I told him I will call the Police. He must have gotten scared because he finally responds and unblocks it.... I used it for a couple hours, then my service cuts off and he sends me this long message telling me that he blocked it again and is calling the cops because I threatened him?. I never said anything threatening to him but whatever....

    So I call the police, report everything and tell them the story. A couple hours later a detective calls me and asks if I would like to prosecute, I agreed... so now Im waiting to see what happened...

    What do you guys think? I should easily win right, I have all the proof. All the texts.. from before I purchased and from after.. and I have his original craigslist post....

    I told this guy 100 times to either unblock it or just give my money back and id cancel the prosecution but he didnt respond, so whatever. ..


    Anybody been through something similiar?. Think I should win? He clearly commited insurance fraud... and must have created a police report to report his "stolen" phone..




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    You will win. You can take him to small claims court and have him pay the fees too.

    See if you can get a cache of his ad just in case for evidence. Most likely he'll cave in and refund you.

    Show him all of your evidence and say "we can take this to court and I'm sure I will win."

    On a side note, what an awesome detective working your case. I'm sure he's very busy too. These guys have back logs of cases not resolved and have to work tons of overtime.

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