PSA: DO NOT UPDATE TO MF3 - You lose Motochopper, Loki, Rootkeeper and ODIN Downgrade

polish_pat · Jul 9, 2013

If you want to keep root, don't update to today's MF3 OTA as it break motochopper exploit and prevents Rootkeeper from working

Some members have sacrificed themselves:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43420412&postcount=57

Anybody knows if it break Loki too?

It has been well documented that trying to ODIN back to MDL does not work and causes an immediate fail

If you wish to have the new features then run GoldenEye ROM, a fantastic i9505 MF8 based ROM that runs smooth as melted butter. It also has all latest MF3 additions such as App2SD, audio flickering and sms fix

AxAtAx · Jul 9, 2013

I have been trying to tell everyone that...

DO NOT UPDATE PERIOD

nakedninja42 · Jul 9, 2013

polish_pat said:
Anybody knows if it break Loki too?

If you can't root, you can't install custom recovery. Can't install custom recovery, can't loki...

If using customer recovery, I don't think the update will apply.

The question should be answered once root is achieved.

polish_pat · Jul 9, 2013

nakedninja42 said:
If you can't root, you can't install custom recovery. Can't install custom recovery, can't loki...

If using customer recovery, I don't think the update will apply.

The question should be answered once root is achieved.

It might break motochopper, but what tells you that once another root method is found, loki will still work? that was my question

jetlitheone · Jul 9, 2013

It's not going to break loki I don't think, it has KNOX but thats a seperate bootloader that allows apps to run with full security, our phone doesnt boot into Knox mode.

popfan · Jul 9, 2013

Has anyone checked to see if the S4Active root works?

polish_pat · Jul 9, 2013

popfan said:
Has anyone checked to see if the S4Active root works?

yes, it doesnt. I'm sure geohot could port it over though without too much difficulty

jetlitheone · Jul 9, 2013

polish_pat said:
yes, it doesnt. I'm sure geohot could port it over though without too much difficulty

Tried downgrading via odin?

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polish_pat · Jul 9, 2013

jetlitheone said:
Tried downgrading via odin?

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i haven't, im on MF8, but maybe for others

joshuadjohnson22 · Jul 9, 2013

popfan said:
Has anyone checked to see if the S4Active root works?

It was made specifically for the active. It will not run on other devices. You would have to modify the apk or make a root method off of it

polish_pat · Jul 9, 2013

jetlitheone said:
Tried downgrading via odin?

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looks like its not *im*possible

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43423067&postcount=81

popfan · Jul 9, 2013

Might have to do the same thing we had to do in the Motorola Atrix HD - edit some of the XML files out and then flash it though ODIN.

Justin1123 · Jul 9, 2013

I just got my S4 today and updated it outside of the box. I'm now trying to root.

I know that the motochopper method is broken, but is the odin method broken?

jetlitheone · Jul 9, 2013

Justin1123 said:
I just got my S4 today and updated it outside of the box. I'm now trying to root.

I know that the motochopper method is broken, but is the odin method broken?

Odin method ? Of you're asking if you can downgrade the answer is sadly no

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Justin1123 · Jul 9, 2013

jetlitheone said:
Odin method ? Of you're asking if you can downgrade the answer is sadly no

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Not the odin method, forgive me if I mispoke. I can't link vids yet, but there's a method on YT that involves this:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2219803
The software simply says "PASS" and your phone is rooted.

WoodburyMan · Jul 9, 2013

Justin1123 said:
I just got my S4 today and updated it outside of the box. I'm now trying to root.

I know that the motochopper method is broken, but is the odin method broken?

To late

Can't downgrade. You'll have to wait and be patient until a new exploit is found for the new firmware.

To boot I did the same thing. My S4 came with AMDB installed. I updated out of box to AMDL without even checking first in the parking lot of the AT&T store. Got home and luckily found AMDL was still rootable.

fabster530 · Jul 9, 2013

I have one question.... what exactly does this update do besides patch stuff because its 300+ mb? Just wondering because I had to freeze my att updater

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polish_pat · Jul 9, 2013

fabster530 said:
I have one question.... what exactly does this update do besides patch stuff because its 300+ mb? Just wondering because I had to freeze my att updater

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heared it fixes some sms and audio glitches, brings hdr video recording, brings app2sd,

- More stable performance.
- Semi-transparent status bar.
(see screenshots)
- More free RAM.
- New Apps to SD Card feature that
lets you move an app to the SD Card.
- Improvement in camera picture quality.
- New “Increase legibility” feature that
can be found under Settings> My Device> Display.
- New Smart Pause toggle in Quick Settings under
Notification Panel.
- Improvements in the S Planner app (calendar app).

Slade8525 · Jul 9, 2013

i think we all knew this day would come.

scott14719 · Jul 9, 2013

Slade8525 said:
i think we all knew this day would come.

Maybe I should put my rootable, ODINable S4 on EBAY for $2,000.00

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