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jamieb122

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I installed your app, but it's not coming up. Any ideas as to why?

You swipe from the right hand side of the screen (make sure your finger touches somewhere within 10px of the right hand side

Did that work?

The service auto starts at boot, if you havent rebooted, try to launch the activity from your launcher and you should be able to swipe after that
 

veearrsix

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You seemed to have read my mind, although I forgot to add that to the feature list, it will be the next thing I add...It should be up by tomorrow or Monday evening at the latest...

Cool, I look forward to testing it out. Having used the current one for a few days, it really is something parrot should have added from day one.
 

ronsno

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You swipe from the right hand side of the screen (make sure your finger touches somewhere within 10px of the right hand side

Did that work?

The service auto starts at boot, if you havent rebooted, try to launch the activity from your launcher and you should be able to swipe after that

Okay I got it working. I think what happened was I didn't see the little rectangled shaded area to swipe, so I tired bringing it up by pressing on the app icon itself. This turns off the shaded area. Just a thought, you might want to have the ability to press on the app icon to bring it up as well as the swipe.

It works great. I like the concept and I like that it stays up till I'm ready to touch again to close it.

Anyway you can connect this to the permanent built-in volume button on the lower left? One more suggestion, besides the wheel/knob, how about an up down button option so we have both options, a wheel and up and down buttons.

Thanks for your work.:good:
 

devilspy

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OUKU vs PARROT?

I'm in the market to buy one of these devices. How does thsi compared to the OUKU / Unbranded ones? Does this have better screen/build. Any difference between the two?
 

RigWig

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By allowing the app to be launched from the icon instead of the swipe on the side, you could easily bind it to the built in volume button using asteroid Tweaker.

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devilspy

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Ouku vs Parrat Smart vs ANDROID-XTRONS-TD620A ?

This one has brand- and xda support ;)

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Hmm they are all around a similar price range the Ouku also has xda support. Then just saw there is this ANDROID-XTRONS-TD620A on ebay.
I think Ouku has capacitive screen, is Parrot multitouch or capacitive (im honestly confused w touchscreen tech).



Sounds like the Xtrons is technically superior?
 

dragon788

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Hey folks you've already been an immense help in getting Play Service working on my Smart. However, I'm running into just one new issue. Google Play Music thinks I'm offline. It will load up all my music but it appears grayed out and when I click on it it tells me I'm offline. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
ajosefox, you need to go into settings and uncheck all the "wifi only options" . I noticed after a recent update I also could no longer stream station or anything, it seems like even on a mobile broadband or bluetooth tether that it knows its not wifi so it won't stream. Not sure if 2.3.7 that the Parrot is based on knows the difference between a wifi tether and regular wifi, but I found that having all the wifi options off helped.
 

rdzviper

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PROBLEM SOLVED

I decided to go back through the apps I've installed and see if any one of them could be doing something to trigger this and found the culprit I had forgotten about. I installed PerApp in order to adjust my Google Nav volume independently from the music volume(worked like a champ by the way). Well it set my default screen timeout to 1 min. Apparently instead of turning off the screen like on your phone/tablet, it triggers this clock screensaver thing. Uninstalling left it at 1 min, so I had to find another app to fix it since it's not available in settings. Got it reset to 0 and not more annoying screen. So basically, nothing to see here. User error.

For second week i cant`t find any programm that can set timeout to 0:( I tried No Lock and others, but it removes screensaver, or make timeot longer, but screen still dim. Can anybody recomend me some app?
It will be good, if such feature would be in asteroid tweeker...

Thank you.
 

Jinster

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Hmm they are all around a similar price range the Ouku also has xda support. Then just saw there is this ANDROID-XTRONS-TD620A on ebay.
I think Ouku has capacitive screen, is Parrot multitouch or capacitive (im honestly confused w touchscreen tech).



Sounds like the Xtrons is technically superior?

Forget tech specs. You want usability. The Asteroid Smart is far more usable than those generic Chinese units.

Usability is not easily appreciated when all you are doing is looking at the advertisement from sellers. Your generic Android units have iPod connectivity. But look at that user menu in which you browse your iPod music. It's small, poorly laid out, no voice recognition, etc...

There is no contest. The difference is huge to those who appreciate good usability and well worth the extra cost to get the Asteroid Smart.

But you are very limited on budget, then you have no choice but to go with Ouku, or whatever.

If you bought the Asteroid, you will never understand how bad those generic units can be.

If you bought those generic units, you will never understand how good the Asteroid is.
 

donaldta

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For second week i cant`t find any programm that can set timeout to 0:( I tried No Lock and others, but it removes screensaver, or make timeot longer, but screen still dim. Can anybody recomend me some app?
It will be good, if such feature would be in asteroid tweeker...

The "screen_off_timeout" is a database constant in the system table of com.android.providers.settings and is referenced in the Android API documentation. Since the Settings UI is the front end software that allows the user to manage these settings, its value can be changed manually by using sqlite3 (provided that you have root access and the sqlite3 command).

Installing Framaroot and setting up SuperSU for root access is pretty trivial. However, the sqlite3 command does not come default with the Asteroid Smart. I could give you instructions on how to create an emulator with the Android SDK and pull a copy of the command from it but then you'd have to remount the system partition as read-write, push the file over into /system/xbin, and then chmod it appropriately in order to be able to execute it. Then I'd have to give you a couple SQLite commands to check and edit it then hope that you don't mistype them and cause the box to get into a bootloop on the next reboot / startup.

There are safer alternatives since there are a number of SQLite apps on the Google's Play Store. One in particular that I found promising is SQLite Debugger besides being free it seems pretty user friendly. You can use it to select the app's db, table, and even execute assisted sqlite constructs.

With whichever you decide to use, you'll be basically checking the value and updating it
  • SELECT value FROM system WHERE name = 'screen_off_timeout'
  • UPDATE system SET value= '-1' WHERE name = 'screen_off_timeout'
To demonstrate, I'll show you how I used SQLite Debugger on my Asteroid Smart.

Note: when starting for the app for the first time, it will ask SuperSU for root access twice. First for the inital check and then after selecting apps.
  1. tap "Apps"
  2. tap "Settings Storage"
  3. tap "settings.db"
  4. tap "system"
  5. tap "SELECT ?"
  6. check "Value" then tap "OK"
  7. tap "WHERE ?"
  8. tap "name ..."
  9. tap "name = ..."
  10. scroll down to tap on "'screen_off_timeout'". Notice on the next screen my value (the default value) is -1 not 0
  11. tap "Update"
  12. tap "value ..."
  13. tap "-1"
  14. make sure the SQL statement looks correct then tap the button with the send symbol in the upper-right
  15. tap "Commit". Don't worry about the error. Notice the the sql construct reverted to the original select statement, the error is stating it cannot be performed while you have a pending transaction.
  16. you're finally presented with the final three options, choose wisely because "with great power comes great responsibility" :rolleyes:
 
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Change DPI

Whats app/technique do you guys use to change the dpi in different apps? I would like to lower the dpi for a few apps to make them fit the screen a little better
 

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On their web-site they don't mention Android, but on all articles about it they say iPhone and Android compatible. I looked into other brands as well and they are very expensive especially including the install cost. I figured even if it's not the best radar, 1) it was inexpensive and 2) completely hidden. Cobra has navigation products. I'm hoping they come out with a Nav-App with built-in radar. I figure eventually we'll get it working with Android. I've already contacted them. For now I've got it working with my iPhone. I'll give feedback on whether its a piece of crap or has some value.

I just wanted to give a heads up on my personal findings. It seems there are a couple models of the Cobra iRadar S-series. The iRadar S120R is an iOS only version. There is an iRadar S125R that is the Android equivalent but only seems to be available in Europe. Apparently, there is also the S200R which is supposed to be iOS and Android compatible but I cannot find any place that sells them. Do you know which version you have?

For anyone else who might be looking for hidden radar detectors compatible with Android. There are of course more expensive custom radar systems that are far better. Not only being out of sight detectors but also being hidden from radar detector detection which might be important if you drive in places or situations where radar detectors are illegal, like Virginia and Washington D.C or in commercial vehicles, Two particular models are the Escort Passport 9500ci and the Beltronics STiR Plus. If paired with the appropriate SmartCord Live Direct Wire then they can be used with the Escort Live app from the Google Play Store. They also have longer range and without the false alerts that the Cobra radars are notorious for; however, at 3x to 4x the price.

Whats app/technique do you guys use to change the dpi in different apps? I would like to lower the dpi for a few apps to make them fit the screen a little better

I used DPI Changer with a custom setting of 200 dpi. It changes the /system/build.prop, so it affects all apps that can resize themselves based on those settings. However, the Parrot Launcher and their apps all used a fixed setting that will not change.
 
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ronsno

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I bought this based on articles and got one of the very first. Now that their web-site is updated it says only IOS compatible, however all of their other similar units are both Android and IOS. I am in contact with them trying to not only get it working but also trying to get them to incorporate their radar software with their GPS software. I have an iPhone and it actually works quite well, but would be nicer working with the smart. One of their techs said they always come out with the IOS version first. I really think it comes down to a driver. Assuming I do get it working it's really quite slick.
 
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samagon

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So I finally bit off on this device. I've read through quite a bit of this thread, rooted, got Google services up, market and Google maps are good. I should have updated to 2.1.2 first though, cause from reading looks like I may have to go through the process of rooting and reinstalling Google framework and market. No big deal I guess since I did it before. Only problem I had was using the recommended root browser. I couldn't get it to work rooted cause it never showed mount r/w. I used es file explorer. It worked flawlessly.

Anyway, question, sorry if this has been asked and answered, I only read most of the thread, but I was excited to use Pandora, but the version from Google market crashes as soon as it starts. Is there a version that works on this? It might be academic though, cause I found that music apps that aren't from the asteroid store tend to do weird things to the sound when you decide to use the regular radio (play music works fine, but you have to kill the app before the radio will play again). maybe this is addressed in the firmware, I'll try again and report (doubt it, why would they fix a problem that doesn't exist if you use the device how they expect you to?).

On another tangent, I found the latest version of maps that works is 6.1.4. Has anyone had luck with a newer one?

Liking it so far!

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I see Parrot now has Asteroid Messenger available. I have an iPhone. I downloaded the messenger and there are 5 options to choose from for text service. Does anyone know what service Apple uses? Is it possible to get text messages through my Apple network to show up on my Smart?
 

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I bought this based on articles and got one of the very first. Now that their web-site is updated it says only IOS compatible, however all of their other similar units are both Android and IOS. I am in contact with them trying to not only get it working but also trying to get them to incorporate their radar software with their GPS software. I have an iPhone and it actually works quite well, but would be nicer working with the smart. One of their techs said they always come out with the IOS version first. I really think it comes down to a driver. Assuming I do get it working it's really quite slick.

Their US website only stated compatibility with iOS products for the iRadar S-series. That part hasn't changed despite the recent changes in the website. I know this because I was doing my research back in August when the product was announced. During then I had found out that Cobra does tends to release products for Apple first then follow up with Android. For example, the original iRadar 100 (windshield mount) was only iOS compatible, the following year they released the iRadar 200 (windshield mount) which did not add any other functionality other than being Android compatible.


It is possible that many of the third-party sites which participated in its release announcement added a few assumptions which encouraged a little "wishful consumerism" that the manufacturer site did not state specifically. Anyways, I suspect that you have the iRadar S120R which was not intended to be Android compatible. I do hope that all it needs is a driver or a firmware update in order to make it compatible. Please keep us update in your progress, I do believe being a cheaper radar solution that others might want to choose it over Escort or Beltronics.

Anyway, question, sorry if this has been asked and answered, I only read most of the thread, but I was excited to use Pandora, but the version from Google market crashes as soon as it starts. Is there a version that works on this?

I have the current version of Pandora on the Google Play store working with the Asteroid Smart. Try installing Orientation Control or Ultimate Rotation Control. Many times these fixed landscape Android devices will cause an app to force close when it tries to programmatically rotate the screen. I had the same problem with my Google TV device with various sideloaded software.

Btw, I did post a thread at Parrot's Developer's forums, inquiring about the MediaEngine plugins which were loading on boot. There were references to several apps and some are not yet available in the Asteroid Market. The list included; Deezer, Mog, Orange Live Radio, Pandora, Rhapsody, Rdio, Slacker, Simfy, and Spotify. Some of the apps are only available in certain regions because of their parent services, like Deezer, Mog, and Simfy. Only a couple are available where in the United States where I am and those are Orange Live Radio, TuneIn, and Spotify. Apparently, in order for the music packages to be integrated into the Parrot Music App, they need to modify and recompile the software. So, for the others; Pandora, Rhapsody, and Rdio, we will have to wait for Parrot to release them through the Asteroid Market.

It might be academic though, cause I found that music apps that aren't from the asteroid store tend to do weird things to the sound when you decide to use the regular radio (play music works fine, but you have to kill the app before the radio will play again). maybe this is addressed in the firmware, I'll try again and report (doubt it, why would they fix a problem that doesn't exist if you use the device how they expect you to?).

I don't think this is actually a bug and was actually intended, since none of the Parrot Asteroid devices were meant to participate in the Google Play or any other market than the Asteroid Market. Basically what happens is if any application takes the focus of the Android's media playback service than the Parrot app "freezes". This can be observed by playing a song through the Parrot Music Player and then starting up a sideloaded app, like Audible or MX Player. If you switch back to the Parrot app, it does not continue playing. As you said, you will have to manually quit or force close the app in order for Parrot player to continue. I think this is their passive aggresive way of enforcing compliance through inconvenience.

On another tangent, I found the latest version of maps that works is 6.1.4. Has anyone had luck with a newer one?
If you're referring to Google Maps, I believe that is the latest that is supported on Gingerbread (API level 10). The more recent versions require APIs not introduced until later versions of the Android OS.

I see Parrot now has Asteroid Messenger available. I have an iPhone. I downloaded the messenger and there are 5 options to choose from for text service. Does anyone know what service Apple uses? Is it possible to get text messages through my Apple network to show up on my Smart?

The Asteroid Messenger is a chat client which supports Google Talk, AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), ICQ, Facebook Chat, and Yahoo Messenger. None of these are used by Apple, though any iOS device can participate with them with the respective clients.

Apple has its own proprietary chat service called iMessages. This services allows communication between any iOS device or Mac computer. There was an Android app called, "iMessage for Android" out for a short time. It was taken down for security sake because all of its connections were being funneled through a server in China which allowed the app to spoof itself as a Mac Mini. On one hand you were able to communicate with iOS users but on the other there's probably someone in China harvesting Apple IDs and Passwords. I doubt it will be officially supported because it requires to be signed on with an Apple ID which Apple takes very seriously.

But, I suspect you're actually looking for Short Message Service (SMS) and/or Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS) client which are typically associated with communicating with other people via cellphones and other portable devices. In this case, compatibility is carrier dependant unless you want have a separate ID for your Asteroid.
 
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The Asteroid Messenger is a chat client which supports Google Talk, AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), ICQ, Facebook Chat, and Yahoo Messenger. None of these are used by Apple, though any iOS device can participate with them with the respective clients.

Apple has its own proprietary chat service called iMessages. This services allows communication between any iOS device or Mac computer. There was an Android app called, "iMessage for Android" out for a short time. It was taken down for security sake because all of its connections were being funneled through a server in China which allowed the app to spoof itself as a Mac Mini. On one hand you were able to communicate with iOS users but on the other there's probably someone in China harvesting Apple IDs and Passwords. I doubt it will be officially supported because it requires to be signed on with an Apple ID which Apple takes very seriously.

But, I suspect you're actually looking for Short Message Service (SMS) and/or Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS) client which are typically associated with communicating with other people via cellphones and other portable devices. In this case, compatibility is carrier dependant unless you want have a separate ID for your Asteroid.

Thanks for such an informative reply. I either need to switch my phone to Android or hope someone comes out with another iMessages for Android. My main issue is I have an iPhone, an iPad, and an iMac that all talk to each other; however the new HTC one is a nice looking phone.:D
 
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    I'm not sure where I found this info, but I don't believe it was here, so I thought I'd leave a little write up about enabling Google Voice Search. First I found and downloaded the old voice search apk. You will need to search for voice search 2.1.4 apk..should be a legitimate free download. However, as I'm sure many have tried and seen, it simply force closes when installed. So, as mentioned, I found a post somewhere that pointed to the missing lib...oh so obviously named libvoicesearch.so. It can be found in the gingerbread gapps zip. Again, you can just search for that...I found it on goo.im/gapps. Now on a basic level, we're done, you can have your voice control icon and a voice input button will be added to maps and the browser.

    voice_search.jpg

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    So, we're just missing one more thing...voice typing from the keyboard into any app. Unfortunately whatever it is that triggers keyboards to display a voice input key is still missing. So, simply installing Gingerbread Keyboard isn't enough to enable the functionality. I tried out quite a few keyboards and obviously they are all keying off the same thing...perhaps it's a bit to flip in some config file...regardless it's not there currently. I did find two keyboards(there are possibly more) that will present the key. One is SwiftKey, the other Kii. Neither are free, Kii only clears it's fancy prediction dictionary when not registered, so I went with it...plus it has a better voice input presentation. Only final caveat is that neither of these will show the voice key as a primary key...you have to hold another key and it will popup as the first option...so it's not too bad. Still looking for a perfect solution, but this functions in the meantime.

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    I guess I'll go ahead and post up a few other things from my setup that folks might find useful since I'm here.

    1. Tablet Talk - Direct Text message forwarding from your phone. There are a few programs like this, but this one uses a direct link (BT or Wifi) from your phone and doesn't have to go out to some other server to store/fetch messages. Interface it okay, designed for tablets, so a bit cramped on the small screen. But seems to function pretty well. I'm connected via bluetooth and it doesn't interfere with voice call functionality at all. You do have to run a service on your phone also, but so far I haven't noticed any negative impact. Oh yeah, needs an Android phone...but we're on XDA right...so that shouldn't be a problem for most.

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    2.Android Weather Widget - I have discovered, along with others, that the majority of weather widgets don't play nicely with the Asteroid. Since it's gingerbread, the widgets basically think it's a phone and even when connected to some wifi network, when it can't get initial location triangulation via a cellular data network...it will never get a location lock. Elsewhere someone found a non-free widget that functioned correctly, but I'm cheap... I finally found the Android Weather Widget after trying quite a few. It's pulls location via the gps and then grabs the needed data from wifi. Works and looks great. Using it with ADW in the screenshot of my current setup. As an aside, so far ADW is working nicely.

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    3. PerApp - Most of the time I like to use Google Navigation for my mapping needs. I quickly found there was no way to adjust the volume on the Asteroid. It is not tied to master or notification...well it does adjust with master(since, you know, it's the master volume), but it's at a much lower level than the music so can't play nicely. Found PerApp, which allows me to go in and set up to a +15db increase for the app. Works like a charm. Also has rotation functionality(again per app) that functions great. Only caveat can be found in one of my previous posts. Make sure to turn off it's screen timeout functionality. You can't set it to 0(which in this case is no timeout) and it will default to 1 minute. You will then get an annoying clock popup every minute and go crazy trying to find out why. So after installing you might needs something like SOFFT to reset the default timeout.

    4. AsteroidTweaker - Mentioned just above, I basically use this to have a reboot functionality without having to have a paperclip handy along with getting my unit to resume from my USB drive most of the time. Also has various other tweak and fixes. Worth a look. Steering wheel control people, it claims to have some fixes for that also...but I haven't looked into it much as I do not. One negative I have noticed is that when switching between sources, it get's a little confused and jumps back a forth for a second...I don't switch sources that often, so minor annoyance for me.

    5. Droid VNC Server, Dropbear SSH Server(not my first choice and now discontinued, but works). Using VNC to capture screens, it's also nice to play around from the comfort of my house. A bit slow to refresh and makes some actions pretty difficult, but overall works well. Always nice to be able to SSH in and take a look around also.

    6. AdAway - Host file ad blocker.

    7. Mongoose web server - This is actually for running on a windows PC. Just throwing it in because it's handy. Basically just throw the executable in a directory of file you want to access remotely and start it up. Then you can browse to your pc from the Asteroid Smart web browser and download the stuff you are wanting to get on your device. Sure you could also start up the SSH Server and scp, or install and sftp server, but this is just handy sometime.

    Anyway, hope this might help some folks out. I had nice helpful links in place for the apps, but XDA apparently did not care for that within my great wall of text. Not quite sure why it refused to let me post with the links... Anyway, let me know if you have any questions on things I've mentioned...
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    Thank you, sounds great. Please keep us updated! :good:

    So, i've managed to build a kernel, compile CWM and i'm in the process of compiling CM10.1

    luckily my Big bro works for HP and has loaned me a VM on one of his HPCloud Farms.

    my current issue is reverting to a working unit. if i replace the current recovery with CWM, i cant just put a stock rom back because the stock rom uses a PLF file. i was hoping that the PLF was just a renamed ZIP, but i dont think it is.

    so, as you can understand i'm a bit wary of just flashing the recovery.img using ADB if i cant but it all back.. i've taken a copy of the mtd0 and mtd 1 devices but they're pretty useless if i cant get the thing to boot and its bricked..

    i'll do some research and maybe even get in touch with parrot themselves to see what my options are..
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    Hey everyone,

    After a few failed attempts at getting the Play Store working on my Asteroid Smart I eventually got it to work, to be honest it wasn't complicated just long winded.

    I have gone through the other write up's and some didn't work (at least for me anyway) so I thought I'd share 'my' installation process, if it helps 1 person then it was worth the effort :good:

    1. Install Framaroot from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2130276 I used 1.4.1

    I followed this video to install the apps

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD4LSdZ3OBs

    This is the installation procedure I followed for Framaroot

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTFVkjtxaWA

    After installing Framaroot, take the little panel off the left hand side and reboot!

    2. Download Root Browser Lite from here and Install.

    3. Download GoogleServicesFramework.apk here & Vending.apk here and copy both files onto your SD card.

    4, Install GoogleServicesFramework.apk

    I then rebooted the Asteroid Smart.

    5. Using Root Browser Lite, locate Vending.apk on your SD Card and copy the file to /system/app on the root of the Asteroid.

    6. Long press the Vending.apk file and go to 'Permissions' I set Users/Group/Others to Read & Write access.

    Again I rebooted the Asteroid.

    7. Create a shortcut to Vending and login to your google account, at this point I did get an error but I just continued and logged in.

    That was it :D It works perfectly!

    I also installed used Market Helper from here to trick the Google Play Store into thinking my Asteroid was my Samsung Galaxy S3. The only issue I found doing this was that the setup screen didn't fit the Smart too well so I used 'Ultimate Rotation Control' downloaded from the play store to set the screen into Portrait mode while I used Market Helper.

    I now have CoPilot live installed :good:

    I know it's a bit long but it worked for me, hopefully it will be of use to others :cool:
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    We now have root :)

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    So, today i created an Amazon AWS EC2 instance with the sole intention of porting Jellybean to the Asteroid Smart.

    i've never port a ROM before and this will be a very steep learning Curve, but i'm hoping that due to the lack of built in Radio Modems and other boards that it should be easier that other devices. Famous last words eh?

    i'll prob make a separate Thread for my progress but if anyone has any experience to share, please feel free.