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23rd September 2013, 11:24 AM |#1171  
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PROBLEM SOLVED

I decided to go back through the apps I've installed and see if any one of them could be doing something to trigger this and found the culprit I had forgotten about. I installed PerApp in order to adjust my Google Nav volume independently from the music volume(worked like a champ by the way). Well it set my default screen timeout to 1 min. Apparently instead of turning off the screen like on your phone/tablet, it triggers this clock screensaver thing. Uninstalling left it at 1 min, so I had to find another app to fix it since it's not available in settings. Got it reset to 0 and not more annoying screen. So basically, nothing to see here. User error.

For second week i cant`t find any programm that can set timeout to 0 I tried No Lock and others, but it removes screensaver, or make timeot longer, but screen still dim. Can anybody recomend me some app?
It will be good, if such feature would be in asteroid tweeker...

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23rd September 2013, 04:07 PM |#1172  
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Hmm they are all around a similar price range the Ouku also has xda support. Then just saw there is this ANDROID-XTRONS-TD620A on ebay.
I think Ouku has capacitive screen, is Parrot multitouch or capacitive (im honestly confused w touchscreen tech).



Sounds like the Xtrons is technically superior?

Forget tech specs. You want usability. The Asteroid Smart is far more usable than those generic Chinese units.

Usability is not easily appreciated when all you are doing is looking at the advertisement from sellers. Your generic Android units have iPod connectivity. But look at that user menu in which you browse your iPod music. It's small, poorly laid out, no voice recognition, etc...

There is no contest. The difference is huge to those who appreciate good usability and well worth the extra cost to get the Asteroid Smart.

But you are very limited on budget, then you have no choice but to go with Ouku, or whatever.

If you bought the Asteroid, you will never understand how bad those generic units can be.

If you bought those generic units, you will never understand how good the Asteroid is.
23rd September 2013, 05:24 PM |#1173  
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For second week i cant`t find any programm that can set timeout to 0 I tried No Lock and others, but it removes screensaver, or make timeot longer, but screen still dim. Can anybody recomend me some app?
It will be good, if such feature would be in asteroid tweeker...

The "screen_off_timeout" is a database constant in the system table of com.android.providers.settings and is referenced in the Android API documentation. Since the Settings UI is the front end software that allows the user to manage these settings, its value can be changed manually by using sqlite3 (provided that you have root access and the sqlite3 command).

Installing Framaroot and setting up SuperSU for root access is pretty trivial. However, the sqlite3 command does not come default with the Asteroid Smart. I could give you instructions on how to create an emulator with the Android SDK and pull a copy of the command from it but then you'd have to remount the system partition as read-write, push the file over into /system/xbin, and then chmod it appropriately in order to be able to execute it. Then I'd have to give you a couple SQLite commands to check and edit it then hope that you don't mistype them and cause the box to get into a bootloop on the next reboot / startup.

There are safer alternatives since there are a number of SQLite apps on the Google's Play Store. One in particular that I found promising is SQLite Debugger besides being free it seems pretty user friendly. You can use it to select the app's db, table, and even execute assisted sqlite constructs.

With whichever you decide to use, you'll be basically checking the value and updating it
  • SELECT value FROM system WHERE name = 'screen_off_timeout'
  • UPDATE system SET value= '-1' WHERE name = 'screen_off_timeout'
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To demonstrate, I'll show you how I used SQLite Debugger on my Asteroid Smart.

Note: when starting for the app for the first time, it will ask SuperSU for root access twice. First for the inital check and then after selecting apps.

  1. tap "Apps"
  2. tap "Settings Storage"
  3. tap "settings.db"
  4. tap "system"
  5. tap "SELECT ?"
  6. check "Value" then tap "OK"
  7. tap "WHERE ?"
  8. tap "name ..."
  9. tap "name = ..."
  10. scroll down to tap on "'screen_off_timeout'". Notice on the next screen my value (the default value) is -1 not 0
  11. tap "Update"
  12. tap "value ..."
  13. tap "-1"
  14. make sure the SQL statement looks correct then tap the button with the send symbol in the upper-right
  15. tap "Commit". Don't worry about the error. Notice the the sql construct reverted to the original select statement, the error is stating it cannot be performed while you have a pending transaction.
  16. you're finally presented with the final three options, choose wisely because "with great power comes great responsibility"

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27th September 2013, 11:39 PM |#1174  
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Whats app/technique do you guys use to change the dpi in different apps? I would like to lower the dpi for a few apps to make them fit the screen a little better
28th September 2013, 03:26 AM |#1175  
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On their web-site they don't mention Android, but on all articles about it they say iPhone and Android compatible. I looked into other brands as well and they are very expensive especially including the install cost. I figured even if it's not the best radar, 1) it was inexpensive and 2) completely hidden. Cobra has navigation products. I'm hoping they come out with a Nav-App with built-in radar. I figure eventually we'll get it working with Android. I've already contacted them. For now I've got it working with my iPhone. I'll give feedback on whether its a piece of crap or has some value.

I just wanted to give a heads up on my personal findings. It seems there are a couple models of the Cobra iRadar S-series. The iRadar S120R is an iOS only version. There is an iRadar S125R that is the Android equivalent but only seems to be available in Europe. Apparently, there is also the S200R which is supposed to be iOS and Android compatible but I cannot find any place that sells them. Do you know which version you have?

For anyone else who might be looking for hidden radar detectors compatible with Android. There are of course more expensive custom radar systems that are far better. Not only being out of sight detectors but also being hidden from radar detector detection which might be important if you drive in places or situations where radar detectors are illegal, like Virginia and Washington D.C or in commercial vehicles, Two particular models are the Escort Passport 9500ci and the Beltronics STiR Plus. If paired with the appropriate SmartCord Live Direct Wire then they can be used with the Escort Live app from the Google Play Store. They also have longer range and without the false alerts that the Cobra radars are notorious for; however, at 3x to 4x the price.

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Whats app/technique do you guys use to change the dpi in different apps? I would like to lower the dpi for a few apps to make them fit the screen a little better

I used DPI Changer with a custom setting of 200 dpi. It changes the /system/build.prop, so it affects all apps that can resize themselves based on those settings. However, the Parrot Launcher and their apps all used a fixed setting that will not change.
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28th September 2013, 06:56 AM |#1176  
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I bought this based on articles and got one of the very first. Now that their web-site is updated it says only IOS compatible, however all of their other similar units are both Android and IOS. I am in contact with them trying to not only get it working but also trying to get them to incorporate their radar software with their GPS software. I have an iPhone and it actually works quite well, but would be nicer working with the smart. One of their techs said they always come out with the IOS version first. I really think it comes down to a driver. Assuming I do get it working it's really quite slick.
28th September 2013, 05:30 PM |#1177  
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So I finally bit off on this device. I've read through quite a bit of this thread, rooted, got Google services up, market and Google maps are good. I should have updated to 2.1.2 first though, cause from reading looks like I may have to go through the process of rooting and reinstalling Google framework and market. No big deal I guess since I did it before. Only problem I had was using the recommended root browser. I couldn't get it to work rooted cause it never showed mount r/w. I used es file explorer. It worked flawlessly.

Anyway, question, sorry if this has been asked and answered, I only read most of the thread, but I was excited to use Pandora, but the version from Google market crashes as soon as it starts. Is there a version that works on this? It might be academic though, cause I found that music apps that aren't from the asteroid store tend to do weird things to the sound when you decide to use the regular radio (play music works fine, but you have to kill the app before the radio will play again). maybe this is addressed in the firmware, I'll try again and report (doubt it, why would they fix a problem that doesn't exist if you use the device how they expect you to?).

On another tangent, I found the latest version of maps that works is 6.1.4. Has anyone had luck with a newer one?

Liking it so far!

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29th September 2013, 06:09 PM |#1178  
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I see Parrot now has Asteroid Messenger available. I have an iPhone. I downloaded the messenger and there are 5 options to choose from for text service. Does anyone know what service Apple uses? Is it possible to get text messages through my Apple network to show up on my Smart?
29th September 2013, 08:17 PM |#1179  
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I bought this based on articles and got one of the very first. Now that their web-site is updated it says only IOS compatible, however all of their other similar units are both Android and IOS. I am in contact with them trying to not only get it working but also trying to get them to incorporate their radar software with their GPS software. I have an iPhone and it actually works quite well, but would be nicer working with the smart. One of their techs said they always come out with the IOS version first. I really think it comes down to a driver. Assuming I do get it working it's really quite slick.

Their US website only stated compatibility with iOS products for the iRadar S-series. That part hasn't changed despite the recent changes in the website. I know this because I was doing my research back in August when the product was announced. During then I had found out that Cobra does tends to release products for Apple first then follow up with Android. For example, the original iRadar 100 (windshield mount) was only iOS compatible, the following year they released the iRadar 200 (windshield mount) which did not add any other functionality other than being Android compatible.

It is possible that many of the third-party sites which participated in its release announcement added a few assumptions which encouraged a little "wishful consumerism" that the manufacturer site did not state specifically. Anyways, I suspect that you have the iRadar S120R which was not intended to be Android compatible. I do hope that all it needs is a driver or a firmware update in order to make it compatible. Please keep us update in your progress, I do believe being a cheaper radar solution that others might want to choose it over Escort or Beltronics.

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Anyway, question, sorry if this has been asked and answered, I only read most of the thread, but I was excited to use Pandora, but the version from Google market crashes as soon as it starts. Is there a version that works on this?

I have the current version of Pandora on the Google Play store working with the Asteroid Smart. Try installing Orientation Control or Ultimate Rotation Control. Many times these fixed landscape Android devices will cause an app to force close when it tries to programmatically rotate the screen. I had the same problem with my Google TV device with various sideloaded software.

Btw, I did post a thread at Parrot's Developer's forums, inquiring about the MediaEngine plugins which were loading on boot. There were references to several apps and some are not yet available in the Asteroid Market. The list included; Deezer, Mog, Orange Live Radio, Pandora, Rhapsody, Rdio, Slacker, Simfy, and Spotify. Some of the apps are only available in certain regions because of their parent services, like Deezer, Mog, and Simfy. Only a couple are available where in the United States where I am and those are Orange Live Radio, TuneIn, and Spotify. Apparently, in order for the music packages to be integrated into the Parrot Music App, they need to modify and recompile the software. So, for the others; Pandora, Rhapsody, and Rdio, we will have to wait for Parrot to release them through the Asteroid Market.

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It might be academic though, cause I found that music apps that aren't from the asteroid store tend to do weird things to the sound when you decide to use the regular radio (play music works fine, but you have to kill the app before the radio will play again). maybe this is addressed in the firmware, I'll try again and report (doubt it, why would they fix a problem that doesn't exist if you use the device how they expect you to?).

I don't think this is actually a bug and was actually intended, since none of the Parrot Asteroid devices were meant to participate in the Google Play or any other market than the Asteroid Market. Basically what happens is if any application takes the focus of the Android's media playback service than the Parrot app "freezes". This can be observed by playing a song through the Parrot Music Player and then starting up a sideloaded app, like Audible or MX Player. If you switch back to the Parrot app, it does not continue playing. As you said, you will have to manually quit or force close the app in order for Parrot player to continue. I think this is their passive aggresive way of enforcing compliance through inconvenience.

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On another tangent, I found the latest version of maps that works is 6.1.4. Has anyone had luck with a newer one?

If you're referring to Google Maps, I believe that is the latest that is supported on Gingerbread (API level 10). The more recent versions require APIs not introduced until later versions of the Android OS.

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I see Parrot now has Asteroid Messenger available. I have an iPhone. I downloaded the messenger and there are 5 options to choose from for text service. Does anyone know what service Apple uses? Is it possible to get text messages through my Apple network to show up on my Smart?

The Asteroid Messenger is a chat client which supports Google Talk, AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), ICQ, Facebook Chat, and Yahoo Messenger. None of these are used by Apple, though any iOS device can participate with them with the respective clients.

Apple has its own proprietary chat service called iMessages. This services allows communication between any iOS device or Mac computer. There was an Android app called, "iMessage for Android" out for a short time. It was taken down for security sake because all of its connections were being funneled through a server in China which allowed the app to spoof itself as a Mac Mini. On one hand you were able to communicate with iOS users but on the other there's probably someone in China harvesting Apple IDs and Passwords. I doubt it will be officially supported because it requires to be signed on with an Apple ID which Apple takes very seriously.

But, I suspect you're actually looking for Short Message Service (SMS) and/or Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS) client which are typically associated with communicating with other people via cellphones and other portable devices. In this case, compatibility is carrier dependant unless you want have a separate ID for your Asteroid.
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The Asteroid Messenger is a chat client which supports Google Talk, AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), ICQ, Facebook Chat, and Yahoo Messenger. None of these are used by Apple, though any iOS device can participate with them with the respective clients.

Apple has its own proprietary chat service called iMessages. This services allows communication between any iOS device or Mac computer. There was an Android app called, "iMessage for Android" out for a short time. It was taken down for security sake because all of its connections were being funneled through a server in China which allowed the app to spoof itself as a Mac Mini. On one hand you were able to communicate with iOS users but on the other there's probably someone in China harvesting Apple IDs and Passwords. I doubt it will be officially supported because it requires to be signed on with an Apple ID which Apple takes very seriously.

But, I suspect you're actually looking for Short Message Service (SMS) and/or Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS) client which are typically associated with communicating with other people via cellphones and other portable devices. In this case, compatibility is carrier dependant unless you want have a separate ID for your Asteroid.

Thanks for such an informative reply. I either need to switch my phone to Android or hope someone comes out with another iMessages for Android. My main issue is I have an iPhone, an iPad, and an iMac that all talk to each other; however the new HTC one is a nice looking phone.
29th September 2013, 11:37 PM |#1181  
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I really like what you've done with this, the other volume widgets I've tried have been way to small or tried to do too much. I like the simplicity and size of your solution.

I have one suggestion though before jumping into adding the cool customisation features. It suffers from the same issue that all other volume widgets seem to have, and that is the volume jumps to where the touch is registered, meaning if your clumsy or accidentally touch near the max volume, you're likely to get a bit of a surprise.

I think it would be more useful if the volume knob didn't try to jump to the point where the touch is registered, and that it just becomes 'active' when you touch it. So the interaction would be more like touch the knob, nothing changes, but as soon as you touch it and rotate this is when the volume would change.

As it stands it's already the best volume widget I've tried, but if volume knob was a little more 'safe' for want of a better word, this would make the widget an absolute essential for all asteroid smarts.

As for customisation features, maybe the ability to theme the knob/buttons, or make the background more transparent. A source button might be nice for going straight to the active source or the source list.


Here is the update version that wont jump when you start the turn. In other words, if the delta for the angle starts from where you click. Let me know if it doesnt behave as expected, as I havent been able to test it on my unit
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