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[SOLVED] KNOX doubts before buying i747

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By moikop, Inactive Recognized Developer on 27th January 2014, 04:48 AM
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Hello everybody,

My current device is a Captivate, and I'm thinking about upgrading to an i747. After doing some research in the forums I found out about knox, but find it a little bit confusing, let's see..

1) Has there been any known cases of devices that were shipped with a knox bootloader?

2) In a i747, what does a knox bootloader look like in Download Mode (as opposite to a non-knox one, does it say knox warranty void or something else?)

3) This is where I'm most confused. If you've got a knox bootloader, then you can't downgrade it, and can't flash anything except for new official otas? would anything except the ota void it? can you flash CM11 for example? and if it's void, that means that it's a hard brick? or does it still work? Can you go foward if it's void (again, like cm11)?

4) Let's say the one I get comes with 4.0, I can root and move freely between CM and stock as long as I don't flash 4.3?

I also have the option to go for a S4 Mini, but given it has the same issue and similar hw.. love the S3 screen :P

Thanks in advance!
27th January 2014, 04:00 PM |#2  
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Samsung s3, s4, Note 3, etc. that shipped with 4.3 will include Knox.

If the device shipped with Knox, you will see something like warranty bit in the text at the top of the download screen.

If you have a knox bootloader, you cannot downgrade to an earlier bootloader but you can still install a custom recovery and custom ROMs which voids the warranty but does not brick the phone.You can flash any ROM you want with a 4.3 Knox bootloader as long as the ROM does not try to flash a new bootloader.

If you have a stock 4.3 phone and try to load anything that is not official Samsung software, it will trigger the knox counter (change from 0 to 1 or 0x0 to 0x1) and void your warranty. At the moment, there is no way to reset the knox counter to 0.

Yes, if you get a 4.04 phone, you can install a custom recovery, custom ROM, and move freely among custom ROMs if these ROMs are support but the installed bootloader.

I have done all of this with an i747m (Bell version of the s3).
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27th January 2014, 07:23 PM |#3  
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That's crystal clear, I was confused and thought that if you had knox and flashed anything else over it it would brick... but I see now, just avoid bootloaders.

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