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16th February 2014, 08:03 PM |#11  
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I care a big deal about privacy and don't even use a Google Account. But I think there are a lot of other things to worry about first before worrying about your telephone number. If you give your number to anyone who is using a phone or an app that reads his/her contact list and does whatever with it, your phone number is not a privacy thing anymore.

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yea but I still don't trust app like this one. It's sad because I very wanted to use it instead of fb messager (which consumes lots of ram in my device). And "Fast for facebook" is not good for me.
 
 
16th February 2014, 08:41 PM |#12  
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yea but I still don't trust app like this one. It's sad because I very wanted to use it instead of fb messager (which consumes lots of ram in my device). And "Fast for facebook" is not good for me.

If you're using Facebook Messenger privacy shouldn't be such a big concern for you, lol.

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16th February 2014, 10:11 PM |#13  
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i like this messanger
i used from 6 month ago
16th February 2014, 10:20 PM |#14  
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Is it end to end encrypted? Then it would be a great alternative.
What's their business-model, though? Free and no Ads seems like it won't be around for long...

Only the secret chat is end to end encrypted, a normal chat is phone-server server-phone, so the conversations can be synced between more devices

It's not a business, it's open source, they didn't make it to earn money
16th February 2014, 10:24 PM |#15  
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My notifications of Telegram don't seem to work properly. It seems that I only receive messages when I actually open the app.
Notifications are all on. Phone is used in wifi only atm, no SIM.
Anyone any ideas?
16th February 2014, 10:26 PM |#16  
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Only the secret chat is end to end encrypted, a normal chat is phone-server server-phone, so the conversations can be synced between more devices

So the normal chat is not more secure than whatsapp.
Good to know there is an option for save chats, though.

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It's not a business, it's open source, they didn't make it to earn money

Server Storage and Traffic don't fall from the sky. Open source is nice and everything, but somebody always has to pay something.

Anyway, the App looks very polished.
16th February 2014, 10:33 PM |#17  
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So the normal chat is not more secure than whatsapp.
Good to know there is an option for save chats, though.

It's more secure: https://telegram.org/faq#security

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Server Storage and Traffic don't fall from the sky. Open source is nice and everything, but somebody always has to pay something.

Anyway, the App looks very polished.

https://telegram.org/faq#q-who-are-t...ehind-telegram
16th February 2014, 11:10 PM |#18  
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i'm not a security expert but according to moxie marlinspike, a developer of renowned secure text messaging app "text secure", this app's security is questionable. he actually called it snake-oil!
16th February 2014, 11:59 PM |#19  
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i'm not a security expert but according to moxie marlinspike, a developer of renowned secure text messaging app "text secure", this app's security is questionable. he actually called it snake-oil!

It's not the most secure system, but I think it is enough. They tryed to find a balance between security and speed

As he says, I peffer the Text Secure protocol, but its unusefull for me, I don't know one single person who uses it, and I don't like the apps
17th February 2014, 12:01 AM |#20  
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I've been using this app for a while now and trying to get in touch with the devs regarding some basic privacy concerns. Essentially - all our data is stored on their servers (unless in the case of "Secret Chats" - which is not the default / passive option). So what happens if you OR the person you're chatting to gets a new number, loses their existing phone, or just deletes Telegram (as you would WhatsApp)? It seems all our data, chatlogs and files (pictures, videos, media, etc) stays on Telegram's servers indefinitely.

Given that this app is so focused on privacy and security, this seems to be a questionmark.
17th February 2014, 12:08 AM |#21  
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I've been using this app for a while now and trying to get in touch with the devs regarding some basic privacy concerns. Essentially - all our data is stored on their servers (unless in the case of "Secret Chats" - which is not the default / passive option). So what happens if you OR the person you're chatting to gets a new number, loses their existing phone, or just deletes Telegram (as you would WhatsApp)? It seems all our data, chatlogs and files (pictures, videos, media, etc) stays on Telegram's servers indefinitely.

Given that this app is so focused on privacy and security, this seems to be a questionmark.

It's exactly the same WhatsApp. Just that whatsapp has no open API and no secure Chats.
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