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sbm888

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The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?

For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?

the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.

I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....

what does everyone else do? :confused: to charge or not to charge?
 
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sbm888 said:
The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?

For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?

the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.

I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....

what does everyone else do? :confused: to charge or not to charge?
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The number of recharges (the lifetime of the battery) is clearly limited so if possible I am charging in a very conservative way - once every 2 days if it works that way. But that is not always possible (and in some days I charge after a single day), plus as a backup I have a 2nd battery (fully-charged) in my backpack.
 
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Well, I recharge it every night with no worries. If the battery loses its capacity to a point that it cannot handle a full day I'll just buy another one.
 
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Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...

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That's the beauty of having a removeable battery. You can charge everynight without worries of shortening the battery's lifespan.

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jvarzim said:
Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...

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Yeah, actually the worst you can do to an modern battery is to discharge it to deep...This will kill lifetime everytime you're doing this.

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sbm888 said:
The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?

For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?

the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.

I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....

what does everyone else do? :confused: to charge or not to charge?
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xclub_101 said:
The number of recharges (the lifetime of the battery) is clearly limited so if possible I am charging in a very conservative way - once every 2 days if it works that way. But that is not always possible (and in some days I charge after a single day), plus as a backup I have a 2nd battery (fully-charged) in my backpack.
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jvarzim said:
Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...

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HSD-Pilot said:
Yeah, actually the worst you can do to an modern battery is to discharge it to deep...This will kill lifetime everytime you're doing this.

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Read this: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Code: 
TL:DR
  • Only empty the batterie once! (at first start to calibrate the phone)
  • Charge before below 30%
  • Charge as slowly as possible

  • Use google before posting nonsense
  • Thanks to the rest who know what they're talking about!



ps. This can be noticed when charging when dead it will be dead within a day after 2weeks of letting the batterie die everytime.
If you then charge every night again it will recover some and last longer after a while.
 
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Let's bust a few myths here, first.

Drain cycle: Not needed. On the old batteries, you needed to do a full drain every month or some because it build up a memory. That's ancient history. It is infact very bad for your battery to do so on these new ones. Refrain from fully draining it unless you're having issues with the calibration. (Ex. if it shuts down at 20%.) Drain it once the very first time you get it. Not ever again after that without serious cause.

Best to keep at 100%: Hell no. Fully charged, particularly keeping it at fully charged, is actually quite bad for a Lithium-Ion battery.

Lithium-Ion batteries in consumer products last about 300-500 full charges before they start showing serious degradation in strength. The fuller you charge it and the longer you keep it on the charger, the lower that number becomes. Charging from 50% to 90% might make you 800 charges, where 10% to 100% will only last 300 charges.

It is best to keep the device between 30% and 90%. It is also better to charge small increments than long charges. So it's preferable to charge from 70 to 90% each time as opposed to waiting 3 days and charging from 5% to 100%.

There's been quite a number of threads all over XDA for various devices with this same question ;)
 
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Technology is always evolving.



But when you post a link to a specialist website you must have seen the first link who talks exacly of what I was talking about.



batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration



None the less it's possible, and I agree with the last post (it makes perfect sense) that things are now diferent.



That's why we use foruns in the first place. There are not smart users, and the others...



We all want to learn something...



Thank you for bringing some new knowledge to me.



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jvarzim said:
Technology is always evolving.



But when you post a link to a specialist website you must have seen the first link who talks exacly of what I was talking about.



batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration



None the less it's possible, and I agree with the last post (it makes perfect sense) that things are now diferent.



That's why we use foruns in the first place. There are not smart users, and the others...



We all want to learn something...



Thank you for bringing some new knowledge to me.



:)





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If my battery level below %50 I do.
 
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Hi guys,

I've a short time my note 3 but Im a little bit dissapointed because of battery life, I have note 3 for 3 days and battery life is terrible, I did factory reset and now it seems look good. Just tell me if this is normal that Android system drains battery almost like display. Is this stats good ?

Thank you
 

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Biker1121 said:
Hi guys,

I've a short time my note 3 but Im a little bit dissapointed because of battery life, I have note 3 for 3 days and battery life is terrible, I did factory reset and now it seems look good. Just tell me if this is normal that Android system drains battery almost like display. Is this stats good ?

Thank you
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Yes, that's normal. It's a KitKat thing. Most people have it sitting somewhere around 25%, so 15% is nice.

A highly inaccuate KitKat thing, at that. Yesterday I played Oh Edu! Towns (a town building game that's quite heavy) for 8 hours straight, and it(stock, BBS and GSAM) said the game used 2% and Android OS 22%. Somehow I doubt that. :rolleyes:
 
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ShadowLea said:
Yes, that's normal. It's a KitKat thing. Most people have it sitting somewhere around 25%, so 15% is nice.

A highly inaccuate KitKat thing, at that. Yesterday I played Oh Edu! Towns (a town building game that's quite heavy) for 8 hours straight, and it(stock, BBS and GSAM) said the game used 2% and Android OS 22%. Somehow I doubt that. :rolleyes:
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Do u think that custom rom like Omega will solve problem with battery life? I've got root I will just flash rcovery and rom.
 
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I'm charging whenever I have the chance, always need to be on a high-level charge, preferably 90% and more.
There are some myths regarding charging habits that might extend the life span of the battery, one of which is to unplug the phone when the charge level hits 100%.
That works for me so far, I have been charging this way since July 2013 :cowboy:
 
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I charge it several times a day after the KitKat update. My HTC one was great with the update, yet my Note 3 battery life took a dive. I used to get well over a day (24 hours and some minutes) with about 4-5 hours screen time with jelly bean. Now I get 14 or so with 3 hours screen time. I've factory reset, tried greenify (no root, sucks) disabled everything and still don't get much more.

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Lets be honest, most of the people here tend to upgrade to the newer phone when it comes out, depending on how much better it is of course, so we tend to have a phone for 2 years or less...
Most batteries will live that long with no problem and by the time you're ready to offload you "old" phone for an upgrade, batteries cost a few $on ebay so even if it requires a new battery it isn't too expensive...
A battery should easily last you for the amount of time you're going to be using it barring of course power surges, misuse or just a faulty battery....
Charge away and be happy. If it dies it's replaceable...:D
 
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ShadowLea said:
Impressive, considering this phone was announced 4 September 2013.. ;)
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Oh Man, sorry for that...:eek:
I own a Note 3 and a S4, and I just wanted to share my experience with the battery charging habits of the S4, since in this category I'm quite sure it applies to the Note 3 also.
BTW, I've been doing the same (Battery charging) for the Note 3 also.
 
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I've had a note 1 and currently use the note 3. I NEVER get more than 12 hours out of my phone. in fact, I carry 2 batteries with my note 3, the note 1 was even worse, I had to carry at least 3 batteries with me to keep me going for the day, and when I say the day, i mean like 18 hours. I'll freely admit that I use my phone more like a netbook than a telephone. I very rarely actually talk on the phone, instead using my phone mostly as a tablet for use with facebook, feedly, web browsing, a couple games, taking notes (evernote ftw), twitter, foursquare, pandora and maps, the occasional email, taking photos. with the battery drain level of the note 3, I'd really have liked to see a battery with roughly twice the capacity to keep me happy for a day, possibly a day and a half with slightly more casual use.

that having been said, yes, i charge every night, because one battery is dead and the other is at 5% or so when it's time for bed. - thankfully I invested in a charge dock which charges the battery in my phone while it charges a spare.
 
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    Let's bust a few myths here, first.

    Drain cycle: Not needed. On the old batteries, you needed to do a full drain every month or some because it build up a memory. That's ancient history. It is infact very bad for your battery to do so on these new ones. Refrain from fully draining it unless you're having issues with the calibration. (Ex. if it shuts down at 20%.) Drain it once the very first time you get it. Not ever again after that without serious cause.

    Best to keep at 100%: Hell no. Fully charged, particularly keeping it at fully charged, is actually quite bad for a Lithium-Ion battery.

    Lithium-Ion batteries in consumer products last about 300-500 full charges before they start showing serious degradation in strength. The fuller you charge it and the longer you keep it on the charger, the lower that number becomes. Charging from 50% to 90% might make you 800 charges, where 10% to 100% will only last 300 charges.

    It is best to keep the device between 30% and 90%. It is also better to charge small increments than long charges. So it's preferable to charge from 70 to 90% each time as opposed to waiting 3 days and charging from 5% to 100%.

    There's been quite a number of threads all over XDA for various devices with this same question ;)
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    ultramag69
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    Lets be honest, most of the people here tend to upgrade to the newer phone when it comes out, depending on how much better it is of course, so we tend to have a phone for 2 years or less...
    Most batteries will live that long with no problem and by the time you're ready to offload you "old" phone for an upgrade, batteries cost a few $on ebay so even if it requires a new battery it isn't too expensive...
    A battery should easily last you for the amount of time you're going to be using it barring of course power surges, misuse or just a faulty battery....
    Charge away and be happy. If it dies it's replaceable...:D
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    sbm888 said:
    The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?

    For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?

    the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.

    I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....

    what does everyone else do? :confused: to charge or not to charge?
    Click to expand...
    Click to collapse

    xclub_101 said:
    The number of recharges (the lifetime of the battery) is clearly limited so if possible I am charging in a very conservative way - once every 2 days if it works that way. But that is not always possible (and in some days I charge after a single day), plus as a backup I have a 2nd battery (fully-charged) in my backpack.
    Click to expand...
    Click to collapse

    jvarzim said:
    Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...

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    HSD-Pilot said:
    Yeah, actually the worst you can do to an modern battery is to discharge it to deep...This will kill lifetime everytime you're doing this.

    Gesendet von meinem SM-N9005
    Click to expand...
    Click to collapse

    Read this: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

    Code: 
    TL:DR
    • Only empty the batterie once! (at first start to calibrate the phone)
    • Charge before below 30%
    • Charge as slowly as possible

    • Use google before posting nonsense
    • Thanks to the rest who know what they're talking about!



    ps. This can be noticed when charging when dead it will be dead within a day after 2weeks of letting the batterie die everytime.
    If you then charge every night again it will recover some and last longer after a while.
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    stormage
    I'm charging whenever I have the chance, always need to be on a high-level charge, preferably 90% and more.
    There are some myths regarding charging habits that might extend the life span of the battery, one of which is to unplug the phone when the charge level hits 100%.
    That works for me so far, I have been charging this way since July 2013 :cowboy:
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    knightblaze
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    I charge it several times a day after the KitKat update. My HTC one was great with the update, yet my Note 3 battery life took a dive. I used to get well over a day (24 hours and some minutes) with about 4-5 hours screen time with jelly bean. Now I get 14 or so with 3 hours screen time. I've factory reset, tried greenify (no root, sucks) disabled everything and still don't get much more.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
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