S3 mini boot loop problem

Whiz91 · Jun 16, 2014

Battery problem?

It could be a faulty battery? Try and place the battery on a flat surface then try to spin it, if spins you need a new battery. I have a bootloop problem myself and i'm pretty sure it's my battery that's become faulty since i can even see it bulking out from the middle.

joshua764 · Jun 16, 2014

Whiz91 said:
It could be a faulty battery? Try and place the battery on a flat surface then try to spin it, if spins you need a new battery. I have a bootloop problem myself and i'm pretty sure it's my battery that's become faulty since i can even see it bulking out from the middle.

I'll check the battery.

tys0n said:
As I said, we don't have a NV_data.bin

What happens when you try to enter recovery and/or download mode?

when in recovery mode but it gets stuck on the screen began. to enter download mode I get the following error..

Enviado desde la chingada, hasta allá!!

qasim799 · Jun 16, 2014

Whiz91 said:
It could be a faulty battery? Try and place the battery on a flat surface then try to spin it, if spins you need a new battery. I have a bootloop problem myself and i'm pretty sure it's my battery that's become faulty since i can even see it bulking out from the middle.

Problem never occurs due any battery or hardware it is only when your phone does not boot up

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tys0n said:
It doesn't seem to be a problem with param or cache because the phone bots without sim.
Most likely is't something wrong with baseband:angel: or modemfs-folder.
Try to flash stock rom first and report back please.
DON'T do anything with your /efs. i8190 does not have NV_data.bin in efs like most sumsung devices do.

This is the thing which I wanna know nv_data is not in efs yes I know it's true but where is imei stored then because I am facing null imei issue

joshua764 · Jun 16, 2014

qasim799 said:
Problem never occurs due any battery or hardware it is only when your phone does not boot up

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This is the thing which I wanna know nv_data is not in efs yes I know it's true but where is imei stored then because I am facing null imei issue

you and try to install pit file?

Enviado desde pre2

tys0n · Jun 17, 2014

qasim799 said:
Problem never occurs due any battery or hardware it is only when your phone does not boot up

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This is the thing which I wanna know nv_data is not in efs yes I know it's true but where is imei stored then because I am facing null imei issue

A quich search here in XDA gives me a hint that NovaThor SoC most likely doesn't store IMEI in /efs.
There is some info to be found in S Advance and Ace2 forums. They're build on the same NovaThor SoC.

EFS - product code, BT/WI-FI mac adress, ril, calibration files and a few other stuff.

MODEMFS - ril calibration files, other ril related files.

CSPSA - ril calibaration files, IMEI, SimLock data, serial number.
synchronization between CSPSA and Modemfs on every systemstart.

This CSPSA (Crash Safe Parameter Storage Area) seems to be a raw partition without filesystem. Also encrypted.

If you would like to make a backup of CSPSA you can use terminal emulator.

Code:

su
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p9 of=/extSdCard/cspsa.img

Some of the threads where info were found.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2145464
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2678269
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2502297

qasim799 · Jun 17, 2014

tys0n said:
A quich search here in XDA gives me a hint that NovaThor SoC most likely doesn't store IMEI in /efs.
There is some info to be found in S Advance and Ace2 forums. They're build on the same NovaThor SoC.

EFS - product code, BT/WI-FI mac adress, ril, calibration files and a few other stuff.

MODEMFS - ril calibration files, other ril related files.

CSPSA - ril calibaration files, IMEI, SimLock data, serial number.
synchronization between CSPSA and Modemfs on every systemstart.

This CSPSA (Crash Safe Parameter Storage Area) seems to be a raw partition without filesystem. Also encrypted.

If you would like to make a backup of CSPSA you can use terminal emulator.

Code:

su dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p9 of=/extSdCard/cspsa.img

Some of the threads where info were found.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2145464
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2678269
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2502297

Wow man you are the real hero now I could solve my imei by taking a backup of cspsa from another phone

tys0n · Jun 17, 2014

qasim799 said:
Wow man you are the real hero now I could solve my imei by taking a backup of cspsa from another phone

I'm not sure that will work but it gives a hint that imei is stored in a encrypted state within that partition.
Flashing it from another phone may as well brick it. I don't know.

qasim799 · Jun 17, 2014

tys0n said:
I'm not sure that will work but it gives a hint that imei is stored in a encrypted state within that partition.
Flashing it from another phone may as well brick it. I don't know.

I flashed other encrypted partitions like mbr'gpt etc but my phone didn't bricked
So can you give me backup of it.I will flash it on my risk

tys0n · Jun 17, 2014

qasim799 said:
I flashed other encrypted partitions like mbr'gpt etc but my phone didn't bricked
So can you give me backup of it.I will flash it on my risk

This post pretty much confirms that IMEI and SIMLOCK is stored in CSPSA because when he flash it to other phone it will change IMEI and get UNLOCKED.
Reason for that is right here.

I can't give you mine since cloning IMEI is illegal and also against the rules of XDA.

qasim799 · Jun 17, 2014

tys0n said:
This post pretty much confirms that IMEI and SIMLOCK is stored in CSPSA because when he flash it to other phone it will change IMEI and get UNLOCKED.
Reason for that is right here.

I can't give you mine since cloning IMEI is illegal and also against the rules of XDA.

Changing imei is not illegal in my country and you are in another country so there is no problem

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tys0n said:
This post pretty much confirms that IMEI and SIMLOCK is stored in CSPSA because when he flash it to other phone it will change IMEI and get UNLOCKED.
Reason for that is right here.

I can't give you mine since cloning IMEI is illegal and also against the rules of XDA.

Are you sure CSPSA is mmxblk0p9 but it's identifier is 7 in pit

tys0n · Jun 17, 2014

qasim799 said:
Changing imei is not illegal in my country and you are in another country so there is no problem

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Are you sure CSPSA is mmxblk0p9 but it's identifier is 7 in pit

Yes I'm sure.

Identifier for pit is 70, but it's mmcblk0p3. Identifier has nothing to do with partition.

Code:

SBL> showparts
===== PARTITION INFORMATION =====
[429290.4495]  ID: MBR,GPT ( 1) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 0 NO. UNITS: 256 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.4547]  ID: MasterTOC ( 2) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 256 NO. UNITS: 768 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.4627]  ID: PIT (70) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 1024 NO. UNITS: 2048 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.4703]  ID: MD5HDR (71) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 6144 NO. UNITS: 2048 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.4782]  ID: STEboot1 ( 3) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 8192 NO. UNITS: 1024 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.4863]  ID: STEboot2 ( 4) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 9216 NO. UNITS: 1024 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.4944]  ID: Dnt ( 5) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 10240 NO. UNITS: 1024 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5021]  ID: reserved ( 6) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 11264 NO. UNITS: 1024 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5103]  ID: CSPSAFS ( 7) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 16384 NO. UNITS: 2048 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5184]  ID: CSPSAFS2 ( 8) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 18432 NO. UNITS: 2048 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5266]  ID: EFS ( 9) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 20480 NO. UNITS: 32768 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5344]  ID: ModemFS (10) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 53248 NO. UNITS: 32768 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5425]  ID: ModemFS2 (11) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 86016 NO. UNITS: 32768 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5508]  ID: Fota (12) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 118784 NO. UNITS: 102400 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5589]  ID: IPL Modem (13) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 380928 NO. UNITS: 128 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5671]  ID: Modem (14) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 385024 NO. UNITS: 28672 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5752]  ID: Loke4 (15) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 417792 NO. UNITS: 4096 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5832]  ID: 2ndLoke4 (16) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 421888 NO. UNITS: 4096 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5915]  ID: PARAM (17) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 425984 NO. UNITS: 32768 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.5995]  ID: Kernel (18) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 458752 NO. UNITS: 32768 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.6077]  ID: Kernel2 (19) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 491520 NO. UNITS: 32768 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.6160]  ID: SYSTEM (20) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 524288 NO. UNITS: 2457600 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.6243]  ID: CACHEFS (21) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 2981888 NO. UNITS: 1720320 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.6328]  ID: HIDDEN (22) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 4702208 NO. UNITS: 655360 USED UNITS: 0
[429290.6412]  ID: DATAFS (23) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 5357568 NO. UNITS: 9891840 USED UNITS: 0

ReeceWyld · Jun 17, 2014

tys0n said:
A quich search here in XDA gives me a hint that NovaThor SoC most likely doesn't store IMEI in /efs.
There is some info to be found in S Advance and Ace2 forums. They're build on the same NovaThor SoC.

EFS - product code, BT/WI-FI mac adress, ril, calibration files and a few other stuff.

MODEMFS - ril calibration files, other ril related files.

CSPSA - ril calibaration files, IMEI, SimLock data, serial number.
synchronization between CSPSA and Modemfs on every systemstart.

This CSPSA (Crash Safe Parameter Storage Area) seems to be a raw partition without filesystem. Also encrypted.

If you would like to make a backup of CSPSA you can use terminal emulator.

Code:

su dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p9 of=/extSdCard/cspsa.img

Some of the threads where info were found.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2145464
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2678269
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2502297

does this CSPSA file control the sim card as well?

qasim799 · Jun 18, 2014

Yes it controls simcard also

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joshua764 · Jun 20, 2014

I tested with other batteries in my mini s3 and still does not start. I have tried with no card without her. not allowed to enter recovery hangs in there and only download mode fails. any suggestions?

Enviado desde pre2

tys0n · Jun 20, 2014

joshua764 said:
I tested with other batteries in my mini s3 and still does not start. I have tried with no card without her. not allowed to enter recovery hangs in there and only download mode fails. any suggestions?

Enviado desde pre2

What recovery are you using?
When you try to enter recovery, does it stop and reboot on the initial i8190 bootlogo or the recovery itself?
What is it that fails in download mode? No download mode at all?

joshua764 · Jun 20, 2014

tys0n said:
What recovery are you using?
When you try to enter recovery, does it stop and reboot on the initial i8190 bootlogo or the recovery itself?
What is it that fails in download mode? No download mode at all?

I show image gives me the error that the download mode. I have installed the recovery touch.
if you have reason is recovery mode.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bo2d9c5emra0vp/tapatalk_1403265851360.jpeg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bo2d9c5emra0vp/tapatalk_1403265851360.jpeg

Enviado desde pre2

prototype74 · Jun 20, 2014

joshua764 said:
I show image gives me the error that the download mode. I have installed the recovery touch.
if you have reason is recovery mode.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bo2d9c5emra0vp/tapatalk_1403265851360.jpeg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bo2d9c5emra0vp/tapatalk_1403265851360.jpeg

Enviado desde pre2

It's a hardware problem

joshua764 · Jun 20, 2014

xXPR0T0TYPEXx said:
It's a hardware problem

is true that it is hardware problem?. there are no more to be done?

Enviado desde pre2

prototype74 · Jun 20, 2014

joshua764 said:
is true that it is hardware problem?. there are no more to be done?

Enviado desde pre2

I think yes and I think a partition is damaged. You can try to flash anything but i am sure Odin will report a fail message.

tys0n · Jun 20, 2014

joshua764 said:
I show image gives me the error that the download mode. I have installed the recovery touch.
if you have reason is recovery mode.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bo2d9c5emra0vp/tapatalk_1403265851360.jpeg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bo2d9c5emra0vp/tapatalk_1403265851360.jpeg

Enviado desde pre2

Thanks. That made it a bit easier.
You got some bad blocks in recovery partition!
ID: Kernel2 (19) DEVICE: MMC FIRST UNIT: 491520 NO. UNITS: 32768

~~My suggestion is to try the service firmware with pit-file and re-partition. If that fails then there is a hardware issue in your nand drive.~~

~~Service firmware~~

Sorry, I just realised you got a i8190L. There is no service firmware available afaik.

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