Not exactly...tapping instead of dragging quickly loads up to 5 apps in multi window, but no re-sizing is available. There is an icon available by tapping the blue divider that displays the apps loaded to the active window half in cascade, but they do not float. Tapping the top of the app you want to use pulls it to the front, but only two windows are able to be used at one time.
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Not exactly...tapping instead of dragging quickly loads up to 5 apps in multi window, but no re-sizing is available. There is an icon available by tapping the blue divider that displays the apps loaded to the active window half in cascade, but they do not float. Tapping the top of the app you want to use pulls it to the front, but only two windows are able to be used at one time.
ummm you couldn't do it with jellybean either. Downloading straight to memory card is so slow!
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Here's my take on the update. I haven't commented on the things talked about in the first post as it would be repetitive. As always, YMMV.
Performance:
Pretty much night and day. I have a huge number of apps and widgets so I represent the extreme. Someone said 4.4 was N3 fast; not quite but pretty close. Those with less crap than I have should notice a huge difference.
Battery:
Hard to tell. I had a bear of a time getting 4.4 installed via Odin with it failing half-a-dozen times. For some reason my N10.1-14 barely charged last night and stayed at around 35% over about 7 hours. It charged fine and almost fully during the day. I'm using it pretty heavily today and I'd guess my battery is better than before; it's certainly no worse. It's going to take a couple of days for me to get a complete read on where battery life and charging time lands.
Multiview/Pen Window
You can add tons more apps out of the box. Apps available are now common to both multiview and Pen Window. You can now directly open Pen Window apps without using Air Command or having to draw on the screen. You just open the multiview panel from the right and tap an app (vs. dragging it). A box comes up allowing you to open it in traditional multiview mode or floating like Cascade view worked on the OG Note 10.1. Pretty cool.
Tapping the box with the "+" sign shown below opens an app in a floating window, the box below it opens it as a standard multiview window.
Daynote's gone/Trip Advisor wallpaper works:
Daynote no esta aqui, at least on the Panama ROM. The travel lock screen wallpaper’s been fixed for the 2,560x1,600 display and it's gorgeous. It used to look funky to accommodate portrait which doesn't exist on the N3 from whence it came.
Lock screen widgets still exist:
At least on the Panama ROM and/or my configuration.
Apps that have been noticeably cleaned up:
Mail - Cleaner, flatter, faster. Push has been added for GMail like on the N3. The new widget sucks. Combined view is the only option and the font used is huge and non-adjustable so in a 4x3 configuration you can see three e-mails.
Browser - Really nicely redone and a lot faster. Headers and controls have been re-worked so there's more browser content and less "stuff." Zoom seems less neurotic with sites opening consistently in the set viewing size (85% in my case). Reader-mode now has a night view and integration with S Note and Scrapbook. The bookmarks widget can't be re-sized anymore it's fixed at 4x2.
Scrapbook - Cleaned up and a lot faster.
S Note - Faster with some additional editing controls I haven't explored yet.
My Files - Better organized with additional filters/options for drilling down to find specific content.
S Voice, S Planner, Video Player, Gallery - Cleaned up and easier to find stuff and navigate
Problems/Issues
None yet. Long pressing the period gives me a question mark, playing with the notification panel while watching video’s fine, and I have no issues playing back video. I had to side load Samsung Video for Hub because my country didn’t support and the 4.3 version FC’s on 4.4. @nrage23 was kind enough to upload the new version and all’s good. So, all-in-all, I’m a happy camper.
Performance:
Pretty much night and day. I have a huge number of apps and widgets so I represent the extreme. Someone said 4.4 was N3 fast; not quite but pretty close. Those with less crap than I have should notice a huge difference.
Battery:
Hard to tell. I had a bear of a time getting 4.4 installed via Odin with it failing half-a-dozen times. For some reason my N10.1-14 barely charged last night and stayed at around 35% over about 7 hours. It charged fine and almost fully during the day. I'm using it pretty heavily today and I'd guess my battery is better than before; it's certainly no worse. It's going to take a couple of days for me to get a complete read on where battery life and charging time lands.
Multiview/Pen Window
You can add tons more apps out of the box. Apps available are now common to both multiview and Pen Window. You can now directly open Pen Window apps without using Air Command or having to draw on the screen. You just open the multiview panel from the right and tap an app (vs. dragging it). A box comes up allowing you to open it in traditional multiview mode or floating like Cascade view worked on the OG Note 10.1. Pretty cool.
Tapping the box with the "+" sign shown below opens an app in a floating window, the box below it opens it as a standard multiview window.
Daynote's gone/Trip Advisor wallpaper works:
Daynote no esta aqui, at least on the Panama ROM. The travel lock screen wallpaper’s been fixed for the 2,560x1,600 display and it's gorgeous. It used to look funky to accommodate portrait which doesn't exist on the N3 from whence it came.
Lock screen widgets still exist:
At least on the Panama ROM and/or my configuration.
Apps that have been noticeably cleaned up:
Mail - Cleaner, flatter, faster. Push has been added for GMail like on the N3. The new widget sucks. Combined view is the only option and the font used is huge and non-adjustable so in a 4x3 configuration you can see three e-mails.
Browser - Really nicely redone and a lot faster. Headers and controls have been re-worked so there's more browser content and less "stuff." Zoom seems less neurotic with sites opening consistently in the set viewing size (85% in my case). Reader-mode now has a night view and integration with S Note and Scrapbook. The bookmarks widget can't be re-sized anymore it's fixed at 4x2.
Scrapbook - Cleaned up and a lot faster.
S Note - Faster with some additional editing controls I haven't explored yet.
My Files - Better organized with additional filters/options for drilling down to find specific content.
S Voice, S Planner, Video Player, Gallery - Cleaned up and easier to find stuff and navigate
Problems/Issues
None yet. Long pressing the period gives me a question mark, playing with the notification panel while watching video’s fine, and I have no issues playing back video. I had to side load Samsung Video for Hub because my country didn’t support and the 4.3 version FC’s on 4.4. @nrage23 was kind enough to upload the new version and all’s good. So, all-in-all, I’m a happy camper.
Isn't the speed really slow though?
I can usually get 2mb max on internal memory,
however SD card = 0.1 kb/s
Internal top, external bottom. Lots of variables like class and brand of external SD. Mine's some higher-end SanDisk 64GB.
Mine is too class 10. However bittorent doesnt really download anything on sd card. Just 0.1 kbs and just stalls
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New clock widget in Android 4.4.2 (P600UEUCND2)
The clock app has been changed as part of the update.
REMOVED FEATURES
The Alarm and World Clock apps have been removed from the US ROM and replaced with the Clock app that came with the Nexus 10.
The Samsung lock screen clock widget present at the release of this tablet is obsolete and replaced with the stock clock widget that came with the Nexus 10. In addition, the font has been made thinner and your favorite cities' times are shown.
ADDED FEATURES
The stopwatch has been added. You can record up to 100 laps.
The timer tab has been added. You can set as many timers as you want up to 10 hours each.
Samsung really made the clock app better for its US tablets. It is now a fully packaged clock app.
Do you notice the dark theme?
The clock app has been changed as part of the update.
REMOVED FEATURES
The Alarm and World Clock apps have been removed from the US ROM and replaced with the Clock app that came with the Nexus 10.
The Samsung lock screen clock widget present at the release of this tablet is obsolete and replaced with the stock clock widget that came with the Nexus 10. In addition, the font has been made thinner and your favorite cities' times are shown.
ADDED FEATURES
The stopwatch has been added. You can record up to 100 laps.
The timer tab has been added. You can set as many timers as you want up to 10 hours each.
Samsung really made the clock app better for its US tablets. It is now a fully packaged clock app.
Do you notice the dark theme?
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I'm on UK 4.3 (BTU) on a P600 and rather tempted to flash a suitable 4.4 stock rom - waiting for samsung is driving me nuts
I have an S4 too (S3, S2, note 10.1 old version) before that so somewhat familar with odin etc.
I notice the newest 4.4 roms are all south america, with the most recent (and only) european update being for spain.
Has anyone gone through this process and can recommend any specific good or bad versions especially FROM BTU 4.3
* I assume a stock rom flash won't trigger KNOX
* I'd guess a 4.4 update could be tricky to back out (bootloaders etc)
I have an S4 too (S3, S2, note 10.1 old version) before that so somewhat familar with odin etc.
I notice the newest 4.4 roms are all south america, with the most recent (and only) european update being for spain.
Has anyone gone through this process and can recommend any specific good or bad versions especially FROM BTU 4.3
* I assume a stock rom flash won't trigger KNOX
* I'd guess a 4.4 update could be tricky to back out (bootloaders etc)
Upgrade to KitKat NOTE 10.1 (2014) SM-P600
Hi there I am exactly in the same situation as you, but i'm from Portugal, so the firmware is P600XXUBMJ6 4.3. NOTE 10.1 (Wi Fi) SM-P600
So i would like to update to KitKat because of the multi user option and the update itself as general, but i've read a little abaout the KNOX thing and i'm affraid to do something wrong... I've done it before many time with my Galaxy S2.
Any help is appreciated.
Regards,
Ricardo
Hi there I am exactly in the same situation as you, but i'm from Portugal, so the firmware is P600XXUBMJ6 4.3. NOTE 10.1 (Wi Fi) SM-P600
So i would like to update to KitKat because of the multi user option and the update itself as general, but i've read a little abaout the KNOX thing and i'm affraid to do something wrong... I've done it before many time with my Galaxy S2.
Any help is appreciated.
Regards,
Ricardo
Donwgrade to 4.3
Hi there,
I forgot to ask if someone knows if it is possible, in the same way, of removing the 4.4 KitKat update and revert to 4.3 Jellybean?
I mean using ODIN, flash the 4.3 firmware and be as it was in the beginning.
I've seen some mixed answers about this and if anyone knows is much appreciated
Thanks!
Hi there,
I forgot to ask if someone knows if it is possible, in the same way, of removing the 4.4 KitKat update and revert to 4.3 Jellybean?
I mean using ODIN, flash the 4.3 firmware and be as it was in the beginning.
I've seen some mixed answers about this and if anyone knows is much appreciated
Thanks!
Hi there,
I forgot to ask if someone knows if it is possible, in the same way, of removing the 4.4 KitKat update and revert to 4.3 Jellybean?
I mean using ODIN, flash the 4.3 firmware and be as it was in the beginning.
I've seen some mixed answers about this and if anyone knows is much appreciated
Thanks!
Yes and No depends on the model, like p605 you could but not p600.
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30I went through the thread and summarized the changes. While the stuff discussed is new to us it's the same as the Tab Pro 10.1. Here's a link to the Tab Pro user manual in case anyone wants more detail. http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...axy_Tab_PRO_KK_English_User_Manual_NAE_F2.pdf
Cliff Notes [Updated: May 14]
Changes to Multi View
New Notification Panel
Updated Pen Window that Support all Multi View Apps
You can add tons more apps out of the box. Apps available are now common to both multiview and Pen Window. You can now directly open Pen Window apps without using Air Command or having to draw on the screen. You just open the multiview panel from the right and tap an app (vs. dragging it). A box comes up allowing you to open it in traditional multiview mode or floating like Cascade view worked on the OG Note 10.1. Pretty cool.
Tapping the box with the "+" sign shown below opens an app in a floating window, the box below it opens it as a standard multiview window.
Revised Task Manager (no change to capacitive button functions)
Improved Scrap Book App
Smoother Performance
Multi Touch Bug Improved
Additional Lock Screen Security Option
S Note Improvements
Improved Stand-by Battery Life
Standby battery life has Donatella improved! Usually the best of her overnight is losing 1% every 6 hours. This is with wifi off. I unplugged last night at midnight as it was fully charged and went to bed. 9 hours later is still at 100%
Support for Multiuser
Improved My Files App
New S Pen Behavior
Greatly Reduced (Exynos) Charging Time
Improved Battery Life
*Screen Write (via Air Command) Images no Longer Compressed
*Mini (Floating?) Keyboard Default in Multi View
*Lock Screen "Cards" Replace Lock Screen Widgets
Note: This exists on the Pro 12.2's, it doesn't exist on the 8.4 and 10.1 Pro's so it's highly doubtful we'll be getting it. So there's nothing to replace the now missing lock screen widgets
*Note 10.1 2014's Getting Hancom Office (all Samsung 4.4 tablets including the $199 Tab4 7 are getting it)
Samsung e-Meeting's Available
Available In Samsung App's. So the only thing we don't have from the Pro's officially is the new keyboard, M-UX, and Remote PC. The latter's available here ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2624986 )and can be loaded as a standard APK. Personally, with M-UX so barren of widgets and tiles, the loss of another resource hog of questionable value isn't really a loss; at least to me. I would like (without rooting) to have the new keyboard but such is life.
5It is possible
Yes it is possible to use the menue softkey to open up the task manager.
But you have to be rooted.
Use an root file explorer to navigate to /system/usr/keylayout/Generic.kl
Edit line 139 and change "MENU" to "APP_SWITCH"
Save the file and then reboot. now you have a recent apps softkey5Here's my take on the update. I haven't commented on the things talked about in the first post as it would be repetitive. As always, YMMV.
Performance:
Pretty much night and day. I have a huge number of apps and widgets so I represent the extreme. Someone said 4.4 was N3 fast; not quite but pretty close. Those with less crap than I have should notice a huge difference.
Battery:
Hard to tell. I had a bear of a time getting 4.4 installed via Odin with it failing half-a-dozen times. For some reason my N10.1-14 barely charged last night and stayed at around 35% over about 7 hours. It charged fine and almost fully during the day. I'm using it pretty heavily today and I'd guess my battery is better than before; it's certainly no worse. It's going to take a couple of days for me to get a complete read on where battery life and charging time lands.
Multiview/Pen Window
You can add tons more apps out of the box. Apps available are now common to both multiview and Pen Window. You can now directly open Pen Window apps without using Air Command or having to draw on the screen. You just open the multiview panel from the right and tap an app (vs. dragging it). A box comes up allowing you to open it in traditional multiview mode or floating like Cascade view worked on the OG Note 10.1. Pretty cool.
Tapping the box with the "+" sign shown below opens an app in a floating window, the box below it opens it as a standard multiview window.
Daynote's gone/Trip Advisor wallpaper works:
Daynote no esta aqui, at least on the Panama ROM. The travel lock screen wallpaper’s been fixed for the 2,560x1,600 display and it's gorgeous. It used to look funky to accommodate portrait which doesn't exist on the N3 from whence it came.
Lock screen widgets still exist:
At least on the Panama ROM and/or my configuration.
Apps that have been noticeably cleaned up:
Mail - Cleaner, flatter, faster. Push has been added for GMail like on the N3. The new widget sucks. Combined view is the only option and the font used is huge and non-adjustable so in a 4x3 configuration you can see three e-mails.
Browser - Really nicely redone and a lot faster. Headers and controls have been re-worked so there's more browser content and less "stuff." Zoom seems less neurotic with sites opening consistently in the set viewing size (85% in my case). Reader-mode now has a night view and integration with S Note and Scrapbook. The bookmarks widget can't be re-sized anymore it's fixed at 4x2.
Scrapbook - Cleaned up and a lot faster.
S Note - Faster with some additional editing controls I haven't explored yet.
My Files - Better organized with additional filters/options for drilling down to find specific content.
S Voice, S Planner, Video Player, Gallery - Cleaned up and easier to find stuff and navigate
Problems/Issues
None yet. Long pressing the period gives me a question mark, playing with the notification panel while watching video’s fine, and I have no issues playing back video. I had to side load Samsung Video for Hub because my country didn’t support and the 4.3 version FC’s on 4.4. @nrage23 was kind enough to upload the new version and all’s good. So, all-in-all, I’m a happy camper.4
Huh? It was released in October, 2013, which makes it six months from launch when it got 4.4. And out of the long list of devices Samsung promised 4.4 for it was first (not counting the N3 and SGS4 which were being upgraded before the list was published).
Why? They cost the same and Samsung makes the same margin. The only more profitable tablets than the N10.1-14 are the 12.2 inchers.
Huh? 10" Android tablets have never sold well. Cheap 7/8" tablets are the majority of Android tablets sales. Apple owns the large format tablet space with the iPad/iPad Air. If you look at the 12.2 forums they aren't exactly bustling with activity. If 10" isn't large enough for you buy a 12". But don't assume everyone feels the same way. For me, 10" is the perfect balance. I can still get productivity work done and have the portability I view as important.
As for quad screen multi view, sure, I'd like to have it. Would I use it? Probably not. The windows would be too small (at least for me) on a 10" display. The Tab Pro 10.1 doesn't have quad screen multi view either.
This I agree with and was hoping for. Samsung could have brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro level" with this update. To a certain extent they did. From what people are reporting we got all the UI updates with the exception of M-UX. The value of M-UX is debatable anyway since a large portion of its features were omitted between being shown at CES and appearing on production devices. And the reason we didn't get it may have more to do with converting existing users to it when they are already using more "standard" home screens than there are standard/M-UX home screens combined. The only other things that seem to be missing (so far) are the updated keyboard and Pro-specific apps like Hancom and e-Meeting. In a way, this update's perfect for me. I get the performance improvements of 4.4, the "freshening" of TW from the Pros, and don't have to reconfigure the way I use my device.
No offense, but you're out of your mind. I had a N8000 for over a year and there's no comparison between the two. The old one was heavy, big, and shiny. The 147 PPI display was embarrassing from the start and downright painful to use. The original Note 10.1 was smoother in some regard but with the CPU/GPU only pushing 147 PPI that's not really a challenge. I used my N8000 as a laptop replacement about 25% of the time. I'm up to 50+% on the N10.1-14
You're entitled to your opinion (everyone here is) but don't assume it represents the "world."
