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[Q] Asking confirmation : S4+CWM+Knox = 0x1

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By maxflay, Member on 31st January 2014, 11:35 PM
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Hi,

I'm a new S4 (i337M) owner, I had a S2 but it broke.

I saw a couples of warning about the Knox BS from Samsung and I want to be sure that I understand everything.

My Android Version is 4.3 MK6 . In the download mode, I have the knox 0x0 . If I install the CWM Recovery, is it possible to keep the 0x0 or it will trip to 0x1 ? My phone is rooted but I want to do a nandroid backup before playing with mods and roms and I think that it's not possible without a custom recovery.

If I trip knox to 0x1, I know that I will not be able to use the knox option (and I don't give a sh_t about Knox) but if it's possible to do a nandroid without tripping the 0x0, it will be nice

Thanks guys !
 
 
31st January 2014, 11:46 PM |#2  
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Yes, if you flash CWM, your Knox will trip to 0x1, and your warranty will be void.
No, you cannot do a Nandroid without a custom recovery, which means you will trip your Knox counter.

Yes, you CAN root your MK6 without tripping Knox, it just will not give you custom recovery options.
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Originally Posted by ve6ay

Yes, if you flash CWM, your Knox will trip to 0x1, and your warranty will be void.
No, you cannot do a Nandroid without a custom recovery, which means you will trip your Knox counter.

Yes, you CAN root your MK6 without tripping Knox, it just will not give you custom recovery options.


First of all, big thanks for your fast reply !

My S4 is rooted ( I did it an hour after I had the phone ) , so if I have a Knox 0x1 and if I don't care about the know feature and about the phone's warranty, do I will be able to flash customs roms and original roms ?
31st October 2015, 01:02 AM |#4  
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I have the same problem!!!
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Originally Posted by maxflay

First of all, big thanks for your fast reply !

My S4 is rooted ( I did it an hour after I had the phone ) , so if I have a Knox 0x1 and if I don't care about the know feature and about the phone's warranty, do I will be able to flash customs roms and original roms ?

I have an AT&T S4 that has a tripped Knox counter(0x1). I have no problems gaining root access. I have used Odin 3.10, Heimdall, Casual, and Loki to try to obtain a custom recovery such as CWM or TWRP, but none of these worked. I'm starting to think that if the Knox counter is tripped, the container for Samsung's Knox software is locked forever and you can never flash a custom recovery. Someone PLEASE tell me I'm wrong and there is a way to flash custom recovery with a 0x1 counter tripped.
31st October 2015, 01:41 AM |#5  
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Originally Posted by seanswiggett

I have an AT&T S4 that has a tripped Knox counter(0x1). I have no problems gaining root access. I have used Odin 3.10, Heimdall, Casual, and Loki to try to obtain a custom recovery such as CWM or TWRP, but none of these worked. I'm starting to think that if the Knox counter is tripped, the container for Samsung's Knox software is locked forever and you can never flash a custom recovery. Someone PLEASE tell me I'm wrong and there is a way to flash custom recovery with a 0x1 counter tripped.

On the SGH-I337, any bootloader more recent than the original MDB or MDL are locked in such a way that you can not load a custom kernel or a custom recovery. You are limited to root, safestrap, and Samsung Touchwiz based firmware. As far as I know, it has nothing to do with knox.

Incidentally, the original MDB and MDL bootloaders were locked as well, but LOKI exploited a flaw in the bootloader code which allowed custom kernel and custom recovery to be installed. This flaw was removed starting with the MK2 and newer bootloaders.
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