Pixel 2 XL screen quality?

jtwlbz · Oct 26, 2017

You guys still dont get it. Srgb mode is on ok that’s good. Some peeps prefer that like myself. The problem is even if its on srgb mode, the color is not right specially red. The screen lacks red. Please go watch Erica’s review on youtube. Thats the big problem. Its not calibrated right.

For me there is another big problem that audio quality when record video is horrible with bad noise cancellation. Also crappy feel of vibrator is another issue. It feels cheap...

Overall this 2 xl feels just about $500 nexus phone to me.

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rsbenedict · Oct 26, 2017

jtwlbz said:
You guys still dont get it. Srgb mode is on ok that’s good. Some peeps prefer that like myself. The problem is even if its on srgb mode, the color is not right specially red. The screen lacks red. Please go watch Erica’s review on youtube. Thats the big problem. Its not calibrated right.

For me there is another big problem that audio quality when record video is horrible with bad noise cancellation. Also crappy feel of vibrator is another issue. It feels cheap...

Overall this 2 xl feels just about $500 nexus phone to me.

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When watching comparison videos of the two cameras and sound, Pixel sounded a ton better than the iPhone 8.

huskerkate · Oct 26, 2017

Toothdock said:
What are the advantages (if any?) of doing an RMA and hoping for a lesser blue shifting phone vs return and waiting for this to clear up to repurchase?

A lot of us seem in this situation now.

The advantage would be that you would be ensured to get another device right away, and not run the risk of the device being sold out like it was last year. The potential risk is that your RMA device might be from the same batches, and waiting for later might give Google time to solve the problem. Personally, I would RMA - what do you have to lose? If it doesn't work out, then you just return it, get a refund, and move on to some other device...

whyme45125 · Oct 26, 2017

huskerkate said:
Uh, yeah, actually...........that, and you've never held the device, so you don't have a basis for offering an opinion on it....

First of all how would you know what I've seen and haven't? I'm in here to see if there's more or less people here observing the same issues as I saw in person, 3 different ones at 2 different verizon stores, one locally and the other an hour and a half away. I'm not impressed with the screen, phone looks and feels great except that blue and possible burn in within a week? FWIW I Develop air handling controls and on-board diagnostic algorithms for an auto manufacturer. I know math, just didn't take geometry in private or home school. But hey if you wanna live your life judging others based on ones knowledge from highschool go right ahead. Have a great evening sir.

Az Biker · Oct 26, 2017

Honestly,

I don't understand all the energy being put into the what if, and how's this, and should I do this (or the petty bickering either, but that's another topic).....

My 2 XL should be delivered Thursday or Friday.

When I get it, this is what I'm going to do:

set it up,
play with it,
listen to the speakers,
take some pics (view them at diff angles (not sure if I'll use mils or degrees, but they will be angles)
play a few graphic intensive games,
Try to root if something becomes available.

Here comes the best part:

THEN, I will make a decision to keep it, wait for a software update, wait for a new batch to get built and the problems to go away then RMA it, or I'll return it and ride my 6P running Pure Nexus for a while longer.

Giving and reading other's reviews are good insight, but If you are worried by all the "bad reviews" you are reading about the display, the sound, the blue tint; either wait until YOUR device shows up and follow my handy dandy do-it-yourself decision guide, or hit the local cell store and play with one for 5-10 minutes.

DO NOT let someone else's observations make your decisions for you, add your own observation first.

You'd never marry someone because of a review, why buy a $1,000 device that way? Check that stuff out on your own! (that wicked logic is FREE)

And above all, interact with each other respectfully and with the intent of being helpful. The rude, bickering, and insults really are unnecessary. Be helpful or be silent.

Yes, I'll be posting a review once I've gone through my 2 XL, but please, add to your own experience before making your decisions.

Peace

quickstang · Oct 26, 2017

Az Biker said:
Honestly,

I don't understand all the energy being put into the what if, and how's this, and should I do this (or the petty bickering either, but that's another topic).....

My 2 XL should be delivered Thursday or Friday.

When I get it, this is what I'm going to do:

set it up,
play with it,
listen to the speakers,
take some pics (view them at diff angles (not sure if I'll use mils or degrees, but they will be angles)
play a few graphic intensive games,
Try to root if something becomes available.

Here comes the best part:

THEN, I will make a decision to keep it, wait for a software update, wait for a new batch to get built and the problems to go away then RMA it, or I'll return it

You'd never marry someone because of a review, why buy a $1,000 device that way? Check that stuff out on your own! (that wicked logic is FREE)

Peace

I tried the above with my wife, but I'm having a hard time RMA'ing her.

Oh, you were talking about the phone [emoji3]

Man, I haven't seen a post by you in ages.

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EeZeEpEe · Oct 26, 2017

rsbenedict said:
When watching comparison videos of the two cameras and sound, Pixel sounded a ton better than the iPhone 8.

That's something good cause it sucks that it records in mono.

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Dan37tz · Oct 26, 2017

ProAm500 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/78rfv4/got_my_replacement_xl2_today_ama/

Is there a live video of him showing the angles? Not saying he did but still photos can be manipulated.

Hard for me to believe there isn't any color shift unless I see it on video. Even my latest and greatest Super AMOLED S8+ has color shift at angles.

Az Biker · Oct 26, 2017

quickstang said:
I tried the above with my wife, but I'm having a hard time RMA'ing her.

Oh, you were talking about the phone [emoji3]

Man, I haven't seen a post by you in ages.

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Hahaha! I'll keep my wife, I wouldn't be able to handle a new one if I RMA'd her! The shipping alone would kill!

I'm on the 6P running Pure Nexus, plus pulling Mod duty all over.

Good to see old friends who are still at it on Xda.

You getting a 2 XL too?

ProAm500 · Oct 26, 2017

Dan37tz said:
Is there a live video of him showing the angles? Not saying he did but still photos can be manipulated.

Hard for me to believe there isn't any color shift unless I see it on video. Even my latest and greatest Super AMOLED S8+ has color shift at angles.

I haven't seen one, but someone else asked for him to post one.

onishchuk4 · Oct 26, 2017

rajnallan said:
Mike Barett has made a video and opened a discussion on Reddit about the state of the Pixel 2 XL display.

Please read, watch and share the information below. People need to have a better understanding of what exactly is going on.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/78oyf3/pixel_2_xl_polarization_demo/

Description

The reason the XL has slight blue hues at various viewing angles is due to the embedded polarizer. It is a trade off for being able to view your phone outdoors with sunglasses.

The reason I shot this video is to demonstrate how this works in real-time and to make people aware of this. Many are considering this trade off to be some form of display manufacturing issue which I don't believe is true.

Surely it can be improved upon, but for the time being this is the result.

There is no fix for the blue hue tinting issues unless Google decides to remove the polarizer.

https://youtu.be/mDspwB6JIkg

Thanks a lot Mike Barrett

I don't think he's right unless I did something wrong... I put on a pair of polarized sunglasses and I didn't see any differences. Am I supposed to try this while I'm outdoors? Cus indoors made no difference. Then again, he worked his polarizer indoors so...

quickstang · Oct 26, 2017

Az Biker said:
Hahaha! I'll keep my wife, I wouldn't be able to handle a new one if I RMA'd her! The shipping alone would kill!

I'm on the 6P running Pure Nexus, plus pulling Mod duty all over.

Good to see old friends who are still at it on Xda.

You getting a 2 XL too?

Yeah, I'm going to keep mine as well. Don't think anyone else would put up with my crap.

Same here, but never did root the 6P.

Yes, I was but canceled the day it was supposed to ship. It said it would ship, but who knows. It was a large investment (not sure investment is even the right word) or purchase, & i just wanted to wait a little longer to see how things go overall.

If things pan out & all is fine, I'll order again. I'm in no rush, as the 6P is still going strong. I want to make the right decision since more than likely it'll be a 2yr phone with a price like that. Double what I paid for the 6P.

Heck, I even tossed around the idea of using the 2XL money to buy a new laptop instead & hold off on a phone until 2018.

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Dan37tz · Oct 26, 2017

For those who are curious, this is my Galaxy S8 Plus vs. my Pixel 2 XL. Head on and at angle.

As you can see, the P2XL has a warmer display than the S8+ looking directly at it, once we move to an angle both phones do color shift. The S8+ shifts to a more warm pinkish, and the Pixel 2 XL shifts to a cooler blue. Almost like they swap places.

To me, it's a 100 percent non-issue and I never notice it on either phone on a day to day use.

Az Biker · Oct 26, 2017

Dan37tz said:
For those who are curious, this is my Galaxy S8 Plus vs. my Pixel 2 XL. Head on and at angle.

As you can see, the P2XL has a warmer display than the S8+ looking directly at it, once we move to an angle both phones do color shift. The S8+ shifts to a more warm pinkish, and the Pixel 2 XL shifts to a cooler blue. Almost like they swap places.

To me, it's a 100 percent non-issue and I never notice it on either phone on a day to day use.

Nice comparison!

onishchuk4 · Oct 26, 2017

Dan37tz said:
For those who are curious, this is my Galaxy S8 Plus vs. my Pixel 2 XL. Head on and at angle.

As you can see, the P2XL has a warmer display than the S8+ looking directly at it, once we move to an angle both phones do color shift. The S8+ shifts to a more warm pinkish, and the Pixel 2 XL shifts to a cooler blue. Almost like they swap places.

To me, it's a 100 percent non-issue and I never notice it on either phone on a day to day use.

Boom! This is exactly in comparison to the earlier reddit post where the guy got his RMA 2XL and it showed a shift to pink instead of blue. Not sure if that's any better. I agree. It's a non-issue and I've already quit noticing it. Only thing that's hard to adjust to is the sRGB lol.

jtwlbz · Oct 26, 2017

Yes oled display has always some degree of color shifting though look at it 2 xl has almost entire screen get shifting. Thats the thing

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mrhumble1 · Oct 26, 2017

Az Biker said:
Wisdom

I can't argue with any of that, but it just comes down to practicality for me. I have a perfectly excellent rooted Nexus 6P (also running Pure Nexus) and have no real need to spend $900 on a phone. I WANT to, because, as I mentioned before, I like new hotness, but not enough to go to the trouble of dealing with issues. I also don't want to have perceived issues (that may or may not be a big deal) because of all this stuff.

Phones come out all the time. How many other phones released in the past year or two have had issues like this? I doubt all this talk is 100% about nothing and non-issues. Something is up, and I am perfectly happy to wait until it's sorted to place my order.

Besides, I would be happier once it's rooted and ROMs are available to try out. I feel comfy knowing I have TWRP backups available of my phone and would feel odd having a phone with no backup functionality.

I hope this all gets sorted quickly. Either it turns out there's a bad batch of units or this is the way the phone will always be. At least then we'll be able to set expectations properly. If I knew this is the way the phone was designed and there is no flaw or malfunction, it would be easier to take it for what it is and accept it. That being said, for all we know there's a recall coming in a week. Regardless, more user reviews will be coming out as the next few weeks pass and then we'll all have a better handle on this. A little patience is rarely a bad idea.

ProAm500 · Oct 26, 2017

onishchuk4 said:
Boom! This is exactly in comparison to the earlier reddit post where the guy got his RMA 2XL and it showed a shift to pink instead of blue. Not sure if that's any better. I agree. It's a non-issue and I've already quit noticing it. Only thing that's hard to adjust to is the sRGB lol.

There's no way you can't look at that and think the shift on the right isn't worse than the left....

onishchuk4 · Oct 26, 2017

ProAm500 said:
There's no way you can't look at that and think the shift on the right isn't worse than the left....

Exactly!!! Btw, I just made a discovery lol! Turn on night mode and drag the intensity to max. The move your display around. The shift will go from that crazy yellow to white. Just shows that it doesn't matter at the end of the day.

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huskerkate · Oct 26, 2017

I don't know if this is good news or not, but my pre-order was supposed to ship today but Google says that shipments are delayed. I'm hoping this is because Google is holding off shipping any more of the initial batches.......

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