[APP] microG GmsCore - lightweight free software clone of Google Play Services

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With installation from Magisk.

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With installation by Magisk.

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Just my 3-monthly post asking who's updated about the Maps API bug in 3rd-party apps: has there been any update on the subject? Thanks
 
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Just my 3-monthly post asking who's updated about the Maps API bug in 3rd-party apps: has there been any update on the subject? Thanks

Don't think any progress in squashing the bugs or adding maps api has been made.
However Marvin is back on Microg with dedicated time each week. I do not know what his roadmap or plan is, however the project now gets more attention and first pull requests are being included. Some of them will help in bugs.
 

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So I've read that the current casting issue with youtube vanced is outdated version of playservices microg is using? Is that true and if so is it possible to fix?
 

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Official microG does not get enough updates to follow play services version numbering. If that is an issue, you can use nanodroid version.

It is actually not a good idea to just increase the version number. As google is changing the API, this would mean, that microg pretends to service a level that is not implemented. Possibly resulting in funny errors.
As Marvin explained the version should only be increased when changes have been tested and are outside of microgs covered API. So for users of microg the better option is to not update apps untested.
 

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That's true but in some cases the NanoDroid version helps, depending.
I recently did some testing for someone who had some French-based streaming apps not working on LineageOS w/microG. Errors were related to the Cast Framework. Ran the apps on five of my microG-based ROMs, KitKat thru Oreo. Apps failed with original microG but ran fine with NanoDroid's.

But agreed, best not to update apps that usually depend on Google's framework. At least folks should backup apps that are currently working before upgrading.


Essential PH-1, /e/ 0.5-n ROM, microG (NoGapps), XDA Legacy
 

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This may be a little off topic so I'll apologize in advance. I have replaced Google Play Services with microG, no Google Search app installed, Ok Google, Assistant and all search, voice, etc history are disabled both on my phone and in the associated Google account. I do, however, use the patched version of the Google Play Store. I also use the Bromite browser.

Forgive me, I know this is somewhat anecdotal but I was chatting with a friend about a specific TV show with my phone nearby. A few minutes later, I used my phone to search via Google for a completely unrelated movie (the show and movie were released decades apart and share no common actors or themes). In the search results, under the "People also ask" section, the very show we were talking about a few minutes previously popped up. Considering that this type of thing is the very reason why I began using microG, this occurrence was quite disturbing; I was under the impression that by replacing Play Services with microG in conjunction with disabling all these "features" that this type of audio snooping would be next to impossible.

I did a little bit of searching on the matter but I was unable to find out exactly what part of Android is responsible for unsolicited microphone recording. I had always assumed it was contained within the Google Play Services and/or the Google Search app but this experience would seem to indicate otherwise. For what it's worth, I've been using microG for around two years now across several devices and this is the first time I've noticed this type of behavior but I must admit that I haven't been looking for it.

I hate to put on my tinfoil hat any tighter but can anyone offer suggestions on how I can further mitigate unsolicited audio recording? I found an app called "PilferShush Jammer" on fDroid but I'd rather not go to this extreme as I imagine my battery life will suffer quite a bit.

I would appreciate any thoughts.
 

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This may be a little off topic so I'll apologize in advance. I have replace Google Play Services with microG, no Google Search app installed, Ok Google, Assistant and all search, voice, etc history are disabled both on my phone and in the associated Google account. I do, however, use the patched version of the Google Play Store. I also use the Bromite browser.

Forgive me, I know this is somewhat anecdotal but I was chatting with a friend about a specific TV show with my phone nearby. A few minutes later, I used my phone to search via Google for a completely unrelated movie (the show and movie were released decades apart and share no common actors or themes). In the search results, under the "People also ask" section, the very show we were talking about a few minutes previously popped up. Considering that this type of thing is the very reason why I began using microG, this occurrence was quite disturbing; I was under the impression that by replacing Play Services with microG in conjunction with disabling all these "features" that this type of audio snooping would be next to impossible.

I did a little bit of searching on the matter but I was unable to find out exactly what part of Android is responsible for unsolicited microphone recording. I had always assumed it was contained within the Google Play Services and/or the Google Search app but this experience would seem to indicate otherwise. For what it's worth I've been using microG for at least two years now across several devices and this is the first time I've noticed this type of behavior but I must admit that I haven't been looking for it.

I hate to put on my tinfoil hat any tighter but can anyone offer suggestions on how I can further mitigate unsolicited audio recording? I found an app called "PilferShush Jammer" on fDroid but I'd rather not go to this extreme as I imagine my battery life will suffer quite a bit.

I would appreciate any thoughts.

This isn't mic related. It's machine learning magic! You'd be shocked the number of subconscious patterns it can learn.
 
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kmem

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maybe there were other listening devices nearby, like your friends phone or some other gadget.

Thanks for your thoughts. I thought of this as well but my friends phone was not connected to my wifi and the results showed up on my phone. There was a google fiber network box in the room but I don't think there is a microphone in it.
 

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Thanks for your thoughts. I thought of this as well but my friends phone was not connected to my wifi and the results showed up on my phone. There was a google fiber network box in the room but I don't think there is a microphone in it.

maybe it was a google app like chrome browser in your phone or some other app like fb. FB app is known to track and spy even after it is uninstalled. you will need to format and clean install everything if that is the case.
 
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This may be a little off topic so I'll apologize in advance. I have replaced Google Play Services with microG, no Google Search app installed, Ok Google, Assistant and all search, voice, etc history are disabled both on my phone and in the associated Google account. I do, however, use the patched version of the Google Play Store. I also use the Bromite browser.
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There might certainly a lot of different possibilities and options that could lead to the described observation (and that's just an "easy" word I'm using). However, just reading your post reinforces my personal decision not to have anything by Google (no services, no applications), Facebook, Whatsapp etc. installed (and not only frozen) on our devices. µG is only used as intended to allow utilisation of non-Google applications that depend on Google services. For me, the by Setalphia modified version of the Play Store is the one and only exception; however, clearly controlled in the granted permissions and by AppOpsXposed, MyAndroidToolsPro and XPrivacyLua.
 
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    Ok which one is better? Need to have access to yt subscriptions at least and seekbar thumbnails.
    NewPipe - that was my last word on that off topic discussion.
    Or libretube , more privacy it uses VPN, so no real IP.
    Sorry for OT.
    You have a lot options.
    1. Newpipe and few forked versions
    2. Libretube
    3. Skytube/skytube extra and legacy editions for older android devices
    4. Songtube
    5. Freetubecordova
    6. And more projects on GitHub/izzyondroid repo.
    You can also use YouTube add away with official YouTube app (root plus xposed framework).

    If you are using iOS you can use yattee from app store or from GitHub page and download and install .ipa

    Best regards.
    Friends, I doubt that @MaR-V-iN's µG thread is really the best place to discuss above. I'm convinced you'll find a more appropriate thread. If you like I'm happy to move your above posts to there; just let me know.

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    Oswald Boelcke
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    Why do you even need vanced? You have a lot more options to watch YouTube without adds.
    Ok which one is better? Need to have access to yt subscriptions at least and seekbar thumbnails.
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    Ok which one is better? Need to have access to yt subscriptions at least and seekbar thumbnails.

    You have a lot options.
    1. Newpipe and few forked versions
    2. Libretube
    3. Skytube/skytube extra and legacy editions for older android devices
    4. Songtube
    5. Freetubecordova
    6. And more projects on GitHub/izzyondroid repo.
    You can also use YouTube add away with official YouTube app (root plus xposed framework).

    If you are using iOS you can use yattee from app store or from GitHub page and download and install .ipa

    Best regards.
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    Friends, I doubt that @MaR-V-iN's µG thread is really the best place to discuss above. I'm convinced you'll find a more appropriate thread. If you like I'm happy to move your above posts to there; just let me know.

    Regards
    Oswald Boelcke
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    much Appreciated your sensitivity & sensibility in approaching these situations here & other places . thanks for asking than acting like a spoilt & bullying copper ..... that many admins are
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    Introduction
    microG GmsCore is a FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) framework to allow applications designed for Google Play Services to run on systems, where Play Services is not available. If you use your phone without GAPPS this might become a useful tool for you.
    microG GmsCore is one of the two core components of the microG project.
    More up-to-date descriptions and instructions might be available on the wiki

    Instructions
    Preparation:
    1. You need a 4/5/6 ROM that is GAPPS-free. Either don't install them or remove them, if your ROM ships them. Please note that microG GmsCore might run on a cleaned stock ROM, but it might also brick it or cause random bugs. Be aware that only latest Android versions (4.4+) are regularly tested and thus prioritized over older versions when issues occur.
    2. You need a ROM that supports signature faking. Some custom ROMs are patched to support signature faking out of the box, including all OmniROM-based ones. Stock CyanogenMod denied the inclusion, as the possibility of third-party play services implementations is considered a security issue (read here about why it's not). Please ask your ROM developer if unsure. The latest version of signature spoofing for Android < 6.0 has to be enabled at the bottom of the developer settings first. If your ROM does not support signature faking, but you use Xposed, you can grab a Xposed module here.
      If you are a ROM developer or just do custom builds for whatever reason, you can download and include the patch from here and here for Android 5.1 or here for Android 6.0.
    3. Remove UnifiedNlp. In case you installed it before. You can keep your backend modules installed, microG Services will be able to use them later and provide the same feature set (to be precise, microG Services includes UnifiedNlp).

    Installation:
    The installation does not require any modification of the /system partition. All installations should be done using the default app installer included with Android or using `adb install`. This means you need to enable third-party sources or developer mode first.
    1. Install GmsCore.apk as provided in the download section below.
    2. If you want to use Google Cloud Messaging ("Push-Notifications"), Install GsfProxy.apk as provided in the download section below. The GsfProxy version does not need to match the GmsCore.apk version.
      • If you have BlankStore installed, continue with the next step.
      • If you want to be able to access the Play Store, install BlankStore from its thread. It is not a requirement that you set it up correctly and this is not covered by this instructions. If you need help ask in the original thread.
      • If you don't care about Play Store access, Install FakeStore.apk as provided in the download section below.
    3. Open the microG Settings, which are available in the launcher now. If you want to use any Google services (Log-In, Cloud Messaging), tick both checkboxes for background services. This is the only supported setup, but you are free to disable them if you like playing with fire. You can also open the UnifiedNlp settings to enable the location backends of your choice. If you don't have any yet, check out F-Droid. For further questions and concerns regarding UnifiedNlp, use its corresponding thread.
    4. Reboot your device. If you skip this step, everything unwanted is possible.

    Using it:
    • You can test Google Cloud Messaging using this test application. Push notifications do not require account registration.
    • You can add an account through the system settings. Some applications might ask you to do so, if you don't.
    • Use your applications as you like. But note that apps that use Cloud Messaging must be installed after GmsCore, else they will not work. Some hint of applications that can run due to microG GmsCore: TextSecure/Signal, Play Music, YouTube
    • When using AdAway make sure to put mtalk.google.com on your whitelist, else problems are likely to occur when using Google Cloud Messaging. Thanks @benstyle1 for the hint.

    Downloads
    See this wiki page for Downloads. You can find details on the F-Droid repository on https://microg.org/fdroid/.

    Signing key
    The NOGAPPS and microG Project use a shared signing key. Apps and the F-Droid repository are signed using this key. You can verify app signatures using the Checkey app (not when signature spoofing is enabled) and the F-Droid key in F-Droid repository details.
    The SHA-256 hash of the key is:
    9B D0 67 27 E6 27 96 C0 13 0E B6 DA B3 9B 73 15 74 51 58 2C BD 13 8E 86 C4 68 AC C3 95 D1 41 65

    Current implementation progress
    Please check this wiki page for up to date implementation progress.

    Please report bugs
    This project is still rather unstable. Please report bugs as they occur. Whenever you report a bug, please tell us what application caused the bug, including its exact version. If you're the developer, name the play services library you are using. Please do not bother the original app author when it might be related to microG services. If the problem is related to geolocation with UnifiedNlp, report it in the UnifiedNlp thread, even if you're using it through GmsCore.

    Thanks
    Big thanks to everyone who continuously supported me doing this, by donating, pull-requests or just feedback.

    XDA:DevDB Information
    microG GmsCore, App for all devices (see above for details)

    Contributors
    MaR-V-iN
    Source Code: https://github.com/microg/android_packages_apps_GmsCore


    Version Information
    Status: Beta
    Current Beta Version: v0.2.13.203915
    Beta Release Date: 2020-10-19

    Created 2015-10-04
    Last Updated 2020-10-20
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    I am still alive, but just super busy.

    Starting end of February, I set aside 20 hours a week to work solely on microG.

    But please don't expect any update earlier than that, I have to ensure that there are no loose ends before I remove myself from some of the obligations I have right now, so probably will be even busier than before.

    Thanks for your ongoing support everyone.
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    Nice! Even original Play Store started to work with this! Not fully, but now you can login, search for apps and see already installed ones. Just download doesn't work yet. Keep up good work! Original GMSCore is android cancer.
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    Thanks for your feedback @emandt. I appreciate it, although it's impossible for me to not agree with @Ultramanoid that it feels like trolling. I will try to answer to all your concerns.

    It's true that Google API change. This project has some history and still uses some code from 2013. In the meantime, I saw some API changes, but most APIs stay stable. This is because not all play services users update directly and Google does not want important system features to break. I know that Google is aware of this project (or atleast some Google employees are) longer than you are and atleast one change in the web service implementation was targeting a third party software, with microG being the only one I know that fits into that. So yes, I agree that Google is unlikely to be happy with this project. But as Ingress players know, even the mighty Google is not able to block users out that really want to do something with their services. We will always find a way.

    This project is all about privacy. As mentioned above it existed long before I posted it here on XDA and it was reviewed by several people. I also know that at least one "Android company" is working with it. The source code is still fairly simple to follow, and if you want you can check every future commit (and those from the past) one-by-one. It should also be noted that I built privacy related tools for Android the last years, some of them being published here on XDA as well or being integrated in e.g. OmniROM.
    As I don't want users credentials to end up in wrong hands, microG GmsCore doesn't even safe or access your google account password, the login is done through Google's OAuth based website.

    You complained that not "any warning/advice about privacy, credential or critical actions" was stated on the first post. As you mentioned that you're a XDA user for ten years, this can only be trolling: I never saw a ROM or Patched WhatsApp or darkened Play Store or anything else on XDA state something like this in the first post. And most of them were not open source. I expect users to be able to think theirself that, if you enter confidential data, random things might happen with that. I actually pointed that out by mentioning that "This is currently alpha-grade Software. Don't use it if you're not aware of possible consequences." in red letters :)

    I agree that payments are crucial and it is important that they work fluidly. Until now I did not implement anything related to payments for that reason. Inside Play Store, payments are not directed through Play Services, so this is nothing to fear about (this is all about microG GmsCore now, not about a future implementation of the Play Store). On the other hand, as already pointed out by others, payments should be managed server side. It should NEVER be possible to pay more than needed.

    Reducing the enormous size and bloat in Play Services is one of the goals of the project. And I'm quiet sure that this will be possible, because some things inside Play Services just don't need to be there or can be made a lot simpler. The majority of the size until now actually do not really belong to the project (but is the map rendering library used in the backend and the android-support libraries). I did not use proguard until now, I have a single release for all major instruction set (play services use multiple) and 500KB of assets that can also be reduced in size. Although i did not try it yet, I am quiet sure the size final packages size will stay below 10MB. I am not going into details why play services is so huge here, if you're interested in that, ask me when we meet in person.

    And finally I wanted to point out that most Google applications do not user Play Services intensively. Play Store is using it primarily for Auth and checkin, as well as some smaller things like advertisement id. Only Google Plus related apps (Google+, Hangouts) use Play Services a lot. This is not really a surprise considering that Play Services was originally invented for Google+ and OAuth 2 APIs.

    Finally, I'd like to thank you for the insights in your feelings about this project. I guess these answers will not sufficiently satisfy you, but there is not a lot more I can do. Trust me or don't - it's up to you.

    Puh, what a post...
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    what is the best way to download this these days? little confused by all the different updates and forks.

    is f droid repo a good place to install from still?

    Here's what I know:

    NanoDroid is an app pack that contains, among other things, MicroG. It also replaces system apps and is compatible with Magisk overlays. It is configured with a text file that can be generated using a zip installer with Aroma. It is currently using @Setialpha's fork of microG. There are also basic subset packs for just MicroG or just system app replacements. It comes with a patched version of Play Store that allows for IAP, but can also install FakeStore.
    @ale5000's zip I think was the first of the unofficial zips and AFAIK just installs official MicroG and related dependencies, as well as removing conflicting apps (important for location services), which NanoDroid does as well. I'm not following the thread for this zip for some reason, and probably should find it so I can follow it. AFAIK, there is no simple configuration for this zip.

    My zips are built by downloading the latest MicroG apps by parsing the F-Droid repo's index file for URLs and thus only follows official releases. There are separate zips for installing with FakeStore, official Play Store, and the NanoDroid patched Play Store. There are also separate NoGapps packs that mirror OpenGapps but with apps from F-Droid (and no MicroG, as that's in a separate installer). Configuration is done at build time, but I provide my build tool and build recipes for easy modification.

    The NoGoolag installer I think is most similar to NanoDroid in that it installs its own fork of MicroG as well as F-Droid system app replacements. I'm least familiar with it, but it's in pretty active development, for what that's worth. I don't know much more about it than that, though.

    All of the above zips AFAIK will ensure best compatibility with your device by uninstalling system apps that will interfere, e.g. with location services; extracting libraries from apps that get installed to /system (Android generally can't find the libraries otherwise); and similar things. This tends to provide a better/easier experience than installing straight from F-Droid, though that is still a valid option. Also, if you use an installer that uses the official MicroG, you can get updates from that F-Droid repo.

    TL;DR: Which installer you use will depend on what you're looking for from it. I will almost always recommend mine, but I am opinionated on the subject. It may be worth you looking deeper into what each does and does not provide and if you need that thing, then make a decision. I would highly recommend using one of the zip installers though, even if it's not mine.