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Android on your Windows Mobile HTC Device...
Supports Blackstone, Diamond, Diamond 500, Fuze, Raphael, Raphael 800, Rhodium, Tilt 2 & Topaz

This opening post should have most of the FAQs for XDAndroid (XDA Android on HTC)
In addition, you can post questions, thoughts etc here... and other users can help you out!

Please remember that XDAndroid is 'generic'; that means it runs on multiple HTC devices, but can behave a little differently on each one of them. So for instance, sound might work really well on Diamond, but not so well on Blackstone etc (just a theoretical example!)

You should also remember that this project is in continuous development, so not everything is finished or perfect... there is a LOT working, but quite a bit not working too, and some stuff 'kinda' works if the wind is blowing in the right direction ;)

  • Are the Android releases available in a ROM?
    No, Android is not yet available in a ROM format.
    Currently Android is installed by using a clean SD Card, and booted from there.
    It is booted by running a special application called 'Haret.exe' residing on your SD Card which will terminate the Windows kernel and boot into Linux/Android.
    It can't easily be run from ROM because a) it's too experimental to risk putting in ROM and then killing a device and b) WinMo does some hardware initialisation that isn't documented, but is needed before Android can run.

  • When will it be available in a ROM?
    No time soon. Folks are working on it, but you'll need a lot of patience before it (if ever) arrives

  • My SD Card doesn't seem to work, why?
    Most SD Cards are working, but if you the 'waiting for SDCard' message, you should try one of these fixes (and please let us know if it works)
    Fix 1: Format your card with this tool
    Fix 2: Edit your startup.txt file and add these red entries to your cmdline:
    set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3
    msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave

    Fix 3: Tell your wife / girlfriend that you are about to make some modifications to her phone... change the ringtone and steal her old Class 2 SD Card to use with Android. She will never discover what you have done, and if she does, you'll be able to use Android to send texts to your former girlfriends ;)

  • Where can I download a release?
    There are a number of Android releases (all at varying stages of development). Use the search function to locate one, or try these: (Standard XDAndroid for multiple HTC Devices)
    Both come with very clear instructions on how to install

  • What features are in a release?
    Generally, it's very difficult to detail them, unless there is a significant new feature (in which case, that will be very well advertised!). Usually it's minor speed improvements, bug fixes etc... and sometimes, new bugs are introduced (so bear that in mind)

  • How do I turn off, or reboot Android?
    In earlier releases, you had to pull the battery or press the reset button, in newer releases, you can hold down the 'end call' button and see a menu.

  • How do I suggest features?
    Before you even think about it... ask yourself ONE question... "Do I really think I'm the first to have suggested my idea?" and then ask yourself "And what are the chances of it being read and implemented before all the other issues are fixed?".
    If you still feel it wise to ask for a feature.... go ahead. Don't say you weren't warned.

  • My question starts with the words "When will..." or "When is..." etc
    See above, the same applies. Stuff will appear when it appears. Do you really think you're the only person dying to have ROM support, or power off, or stability etc?

  • Why doesn't the camera work?
    It's not yet supported. When it is, it will be announced.

  • Why isn't GPS working?
    GPS should be working fine, it's a relatively new addition ( May 2010 ) but works well outdoors. Please allow time for the GPS to obtain a 'fix' (location).

  • My battery doesn't seem to last long, why?
    There are many reasons... first Android is not yet fully optimised for power management (so it's not YET as good as WinMo), secondly, the battery status is highly problematic for most users (don't trust the capacity Android tells you, it's simply up and down a lot, and highly inaccurate)

  • Does WiFi work?
    Yes, it's working for most people, suspected to cause slight heat, definitely drains the battery faster than WinMo. Some users have reported freezes when switching WiFi off (quite common problem)

  • Does Audio work?
    It should be working fine, but Audio can have issues on some devices from time to time. Even with the very latest XDAndroid kernels.
  • I keep hearing 'popping/clicking' sounds from the speaker?
    This is a known annoyance on some devices, believed to be related to power management switching the speaker on and off (not confirmed), it actually seems worse in silent mode (ironically). If you experience this, you're not alone... most users do. When a fix is ready, it will be announced here.

  • I can't wake up my device, why?
    Deep Sleep is an issue for most people. Sometimes the device WILL wake up from a deep sleep, but sometimes it will not. If you can't wake it up, reset.

  • Is GPRS supported?
    Yes, it works (but you MAY have to input your operator/carrier APN)

  • Is 3G working?
    Yes, works for most, although some users are having trouble with Vodafone Netherlands.

  • Is SIM PIN Code working?
    It's supposed to be working, yes, but if you have ANY troubles please DISABLE SIM PIN in WinMo (SIM PIN works on the SIM, but you need WinMo UI to disable it)

  • Is GSensor working?

  • Is Bluetooth working?
    Seems to be in a high state of flux, so you'll just have to test it on your device, and find out

  • Is 3D Supported?
    OpenGL ES 1.0 is supported on some devices (Blackstone, Diamond, Raphael). Topaz and Rhodium do not support 3D

  • Can I connect via USB?
    Yes you can, but will NOT operate in mass storage mode. You can charge via USB and you can debug, but forget accessing your files by it.

  • Is the Headphone Socket working?
    It's being worked on as we speak, but you MAY need to activate it with a special command (in very recent releases, you shouldn't have to):

    For USB headset, add the following line to startup.txt...

    For 3.5mm headset, add the following line to startup.txt...

    You MAY have to make a call for the settings to actually be activated (a real pain), but that's how it is so far!

  • 'Application (xxxxxx) is not responding: Force Close or Wait' keep appearing on my screen!
    Click wait. I do not know the precise reason for this, but from what I can gather, it COULD be related to the slow speed of the SD Card causing the app response times to JUST be a little too slow for Android's liking, thus causing the message. This seems to happen more after bootup or wakeup when the device is busy doing stuff in the background.

  • I am having trouble with ringtones, why?
    This is believed to be caused by the media scanner failing (due to discovering some filenames with none English characters). The best option of all is to use a CLEAN SD Card. But, if you insist on hosting other files on the same SD Card, you MUST make sure they have English character filenames.

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3rd February 2010, 06:04 PM |#2  
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I wonder how many Touch HD users would be willing to pay for Android 2.1 ?

I guess the idea would be that you could start a fund to try and entice people who work for HTC and Google to come forward (anonymously of course) to help push things forward.
You could have milestones, with each milestone (once proven to work 100%) with a price on it's head.

I mean if enough people with the Touch HD were willing to contribute, we might end up with a significant fund, enough to entice the people you need.

I'm not saying the people who are hacking it at the moment shouldn't continue, it just makes sense to me that people who are in the know at HTC and Google might go out of their way to help for a bit of recompense.

3rd February 2010, 07:39 PM |#3  
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Originally Posted by Logicalstep

I wonder how many Touch HD users would be willing to pay for Android 2.1 ?

count me in
3rd February 2010, 08:08 PM |#4  
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Originally Posted by gilie

count me in


this is for 10 characters
4th February 2010, 06:44 PM |#5  
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"Waiting for SD Card" error

Now i use transcend class 6 8Gb
it get this error
i had try to fix in but can't

What card i shoud get to make my HD can run android.
(and what class is run best)
4th February 2010, 07:09 PM |#6  
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Now, even the last should know that transcend cards do not work!
3rd May 2010, 11:39 PM |#7  
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These may have already been answered, but I have now found my new love for my Touch!

With Windows, it's simply crap and too fiddly and laggy to use. ANDROID RULES.
I've really given up with Windows Mobile, so this brings me to my first question.

1) My Windows ROM is Barebones v2.6, I wanted as little to do with Windows as possible. I now want to load ANDROID on booting. Can I load Windows Mobile and tell it load Haret on start-up automatically?

2) Where is the Turn off, or Reboot options in Android!?
11th February 2010, 02:12 PM |#8  
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3G Network
Does 3G networking work? I.e. Internet browsing on the move.
I can't seem to be able to get a connection.
Phone calls in and out work, and so does internet browsing through Wifi.

p.s. I'm on Orange.

11th February 2010, 02:16 PM |#9  
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Build version Manup456_2.0.1_ERD72
For me, best build is Manup456_2.0.1_ERD72,
with kernel version 2.6.27-00845-g502e825
Firmaware version 2.1
Everything works except GPS and 3G internet. (for me that is)
11th February 2010, 03:39 PM |#10  
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Originally Posted by niblettr

Does 3G networking work? I.e. Internet browsing on the move.
I can't seem to be able to get a connection.
Phone calls in and out work, and so does internet browsing through Wifi.

p.s. I'm on Orange.


I had the same issues with O2 Ireland. I was able to input the information needed manually. You could try the following information, although I can't guarantee it, because I have no way of testing it.

Sorry, I can't post urls yet and the information that I wanted to post has URLs included... so here is a screenshot.

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