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zexcrazy

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Hi, guys. Since arco's post whether there will be CM9 or not, which will be Android 4.0 in all its glare, for our precious and beloved device ive started to think about upgrading my phone to something more, let me say, powerful. To be honest this phone gave its best in a sense of a development and using new stuff which hits every day. We saw some pretty much good stuff on a little fire which none of us expected when first came here. There are at first Cyanogenmod,first 6 and now 7 which led us though great Gingerbread experience till its latest version 2.3.7. In one word CM was the beginner of everything that was happening around here in pas year and little more, than we saw some nice themes and they juiced up our phone a little more to our taste. Than there is better camera recording, overclocking. I should at first say root, but never mind, than came AlpharevX with its s-off. Well, not to make it long, there were a lot of nice moments. And as for me ive learned a lot, so thank to everyone who helped me in any way.
But like any other device out there and this one will come to an end of its development era. So, the question is it time for retirement? What would be your next ride? Im thinking about Sensation or EVO 3D, that is if i collect enough money:D Anyway, ill still be here for some time. Please, share your thoughts...

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3xeno

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I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!

It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.

/End rant on HTC

While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.

On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.
 

zexcrazy

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I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!

It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.

/End rant on HTC

While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.

On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.

You are right about everything you said, but Wildfire is my first andrid device and im somehow sentimentally bounded to HTC, but well you never know where the road can take me. I though about SGS, as a cheaper solution (price is a important asspet in my case, for now). One thing is sure im not going to take LG as i had few bad experiences with them in past.

And you are right about SGN, they made few poor moves with graphic chip and 5mp camera, but i recon Samsung is saving its strenght for SGS III.
 

3xeno

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I get what you are saying, and, even I would definitely like my next device to be an HTC (More so, because companies like Samsung and LG, they are essentially consumer goods entities - the air conditioners at my college are by Samsung, the refrigerator at my place is by LG, and so on, and, this fact is what comes first to mind when you say companies like Samsung and LG, but, HTC is just that - a 'specialist' smartphone manufacturer), but, I am somehow forcing myself to see beyond their brand value and look at better alternatives for the same price. (As you put - Price comes first)
 
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cedriccc

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I will definetly stay with the Wildfire for a couple of months more. Now i have the new stable Version and everything runs smooth and fast. I don't need faster devices, i like it how it is right now. Maybe i will buy some new in the future if there is enough money, but i havent thought about it yet.
 

androidino95

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There will be CM9 for the Wildfire.
I'm an optimist.

If not... I will probably buy the G2X or Sensation. G2X more likely for the price. Or a Nexus S? Who knows, I'll discuss that with my wallet.

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laraz

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I get my up grade December. So I was thinking sensation or gs2 but not sure witch 1 to go for been looking at both now for the last month :)

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kevin2516

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My contract ends in 2 years, hopefully optus lets me upgrade before then lol (or else I'll threaten them :L), I have no idea what phones will be out by then but I think I'll stick with samsung, there phones are so much fun lol, or maybe htc if they release anything good

If I still had my wildfire I prob would've upgraded to the sgs2.

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Scratch0805

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My bro is upgrading his phone soon to sgs2, think ill take over his sgi9000 for cheap or even free if you read this, brotherly love. ;) lol I'll give it the life it should be having flash flash and more flashing.......

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arco68

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I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.

LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W

Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.
 

henkdv

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I agree the Wildfire and its successor are great My First Androids, but my next phone will likely be a Samsung too even if that would mean it's the same brand as my microwave oven. However, at the moment I'd rather buy a Motorola Xoom and "degrade" my Wildfire to "just a phone" for the time being. Xoom + extra battery for Wildfire (gotta keep that access point running) is cheaper then buying the Galaxy Nexus plus when an ICS phone hits the stores I can still extend my current plan for 2 years to get it.
 

androidino95

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I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.

LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W

Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.

Please stick with the Wildfire, there has to be a way to port effin ICS. :(

Sent from my HTC Wildfire
 

henkdv

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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.
 

zexcrazy

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Galaxy W is pretty decent upgrade and as for me it much more reachable than some of the flagship devices i am dreaming of.
Ill stick to a Wildfire for some time, but the day will come sooner or later.

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zexcrazy

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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.

I wouldnt agree. They said that ics will be able to run on any device whic was able to run Gingerbread. So if we take official gingerbred suported phones there is Wildfire S which has 600Mhz processor. So its not true that it requires dual core.

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I reckon the wildfire has about 6 to 12 months more left in it. Oath it has been where no one thought it would go. First got the official support from HTC (finally!). Everyone really wanted it and foolishly upgraded changing the bootloader/hboot. That is where I went, I foolishly upgraded then met xda. Seeing so many things happen and I really wanted a custom rom. It started with the urge of really wanting live wallpapers then it grew from there. Waiting for a software s-off, I stood optimistic that one was "coming" even though so many said it wouldn't happen and that the only way would be to use the hardware tool XTC clip. Waiting for so long I managed to get my hands on AlphaRevX. My phone being a locked phone on telstra it was loaded with the custom carrier hboot 02 instead of 01. Alpharev refused to work on these custom hboots so I stood on freenode until a dev came online and managed to hack up a telstra s-off hboot for me to test. I managed to get my s-off with it but by then alpharev team dropped support of hboot 02 because they would have to hack every hboot for different carriers. I soon began to flash roms and read up on all the nice roms. I tried CM7 but hated it because of the interface, I managed to fall in love with the sense interface and couldn't get away from it. I found the sense 2.1 rom and waited for it to get more stable but it was discontinued so I took over. I built my knowledge and now I am working on the rom SenseOnFire. So thats my story. I think the wildfire isn't its time yet and there are so many fantastic devs around here that don't and won't give up on this device just yet. The CM team will be able to hack up something for this device I just know it. Just think before the wildfire got official froyo no one would of thought it would ever run gingerbread.
 

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I`ll upgrade in about an year or so, but I won`t buy a phone with a screen larger than 3.5 inches. Maybe a 3.7 of the bezel is small enough. I don`t like ping-pong paddle type of phones.
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henkdv

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Gingerbread will probably run on a T-Mobile G1. Google never said "any", they said "most". The Wildfire also lacks a GPU so ICS on a Wildfire wouldn't look the same as ICS on a Nexus either.

And I agree with Alex_GP, overly large form factors are a modern reminder of those old clunky phones from 2 decades ago. The Desire S seems nice in this regard, a little bit thinner and a little bit less wide but also just a bit taller to accommodate an HVGA(!) screen. But then it has that annoying capacitive search button which always fires at the wrong moment when held in a right hand. So I guess I'll wait for an updated version of the Samsung Galaxy Ace and hope it's not as slow/fast as an overclocked Wildfire.
 

Solar_

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I think I'm going for the HTC Sensation XE.
Since I got the Wildfire, I realized that pixels ARE important (atleast for me) so qHD will be perfect for me.
4,3 inch is also perfect. Not too big, or too small. (my bro has desire HD so I kind of know how big it is).
The XE is just a beautiful beast :)
And luckily HTC said that it'll get ICS.

I'm not sure when I'll upgrade, but I guess soon. Maybe next week or something..
Can't stand the ldpi thing and the slow performance..
But will keep my Wildfire as a backup device.

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    I've put the device config for ICS up on GitHub, so anyone that wants to can build from it. You can also get a prebuilt version of it here: http://www.multiupload.com/1Y14642PG0 (I'm not bothering making a new thread for it). It should be ok enough to poke around in. Consider it some kind of Christmas gift. :p
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    My dear friends

    I know that I'm suppose to do it in an new thread, but this is just a quicky:
    - latest build (checkout the new options for het launcher)
    All that other stuff that didn't work (camera, gmail, ..) will not work as well.

    For the issue of the keyboard going wrong: I modified gapps a bit so it uses our ICS keyboard now. As far as I can see (market etc) all is working fine, with the correct keyboard.
    - download the modified gapps
    - note that this, sadly, won't fix gmail to open up mails.
    - please inform me when a new version of gapps is available so I can adapt mine.

    And now I'm going off this forum for the rest of the day, stupid exams :p
    All the best,
    Erwin

    EDIT
    I believe that you can just flash this modified gapps over the old one, no need to whipe everything. Try it, but if it doesn't work (i.e. if the portrait keyboard still doesn't fit), whipe everything and flash this modified gapps.
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    In case I haven't mentioned it already, I just like to state that there won't be an official version of CM9 for the Wildfire. The issues of having no GPU, is practically impossible to overcome. I'll still be pushing some stuff to my github from time to time, but all my focus is now on the Galaxy W. And I'll tell you right away, ICS on a device having a GPU is sooo much better than on a device without it. Time to move on folks! :)
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    I'm thinking in moving to Samsung Galaxy Nexus
    What do you think guys, is it a good choice or there are better choices in the same price range?

    but first am waiting to CM9, after that i will take the decision.

    Arco, any good news about CM9??
    Not so good news I'm afraid. Although it's not so much of a problem getting most of the hardware to work (except camera which all devices struggle with atm), the biggest problem for us is that Google has completely removed all support in the source for non-GPU devices. Even in Gingerbread we had to rely on hacks to make the ui smooth, but these hacks are not easy to implement in ICS due to lot's of code removed. I've managed to forward port some of it, but it's far from perfect. A lot better than without it, but still not as smooth as in Gingerbread. There's also something weird with the color space in Android now, which I guess is because it expects and uses graphics capabilities we don't have. For example gradients look like crap, like they are shown in 8 bit mode or something. Unless someone are able to fix it, I don't expect there will be a CM9 for the Wildfire. Almost all of the top coders are working on the high-end devices and probably doesn't give a crap, so I'm not optimistic.
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    Sorry guys, didn't know that there where others interested.There are still quite some lags, and the updates for buzz aren't much preformance speeding, last time I checked.
    The build is started, but it takes some time on my old laptop. As I'm having examen today, I will not be able to upload it untill this evening. But you will hear from me again ;-)

    Wish me luck today :)
    Erwin

    Edit: I was confusing myself :p here you:
    http://www.multiupload.com/4QGT5ZIL5E

    Don't know if it works, haven't been able to test it myself.