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abhijitxp

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I have got YouTube, Gmail, Currents and Google Maps working in the Kindle Fire HD without rooting. However Google Maps is not able to get the location from Wifi and is not able to sign in using the following process. I was unable to get GTalk (also attached) to work so far. The following process does not use GoogleServicesFramework as was used in the Gingerbread version of Kindle Fire.

I have modded the apps with high resolution 256x256 icons for display in Kindle Fire Carousel using the following guide.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1495854

I have used You Tube 3.5.5 modded for HD playback. Alternatively this works with any of the APKs found in the following topic or built for Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1529715

1. Enable installation of applications from unknown sources in Kindle Fire Settings.
2. Install GoogleLoginService.apk.
3. Reboot.
4. Install the Google Apps.
5. Start YouTube. Sign In. It will take you to Google Account Manager to create/use existing Google credentials.
6. Same goes for other apps. In case sign in fails for any of the apps (except Maps/GTalk) drag down the Kindle Fire notification bar, click on the notification for "Permission requested....." and assign required permissions.

The files can be downloaded from here
https://www.box.com/s/kf6n8qpdncscnhmsz3ox

UPDATE: Thanks to alkemist80, installing GoogleServicesFramework.apk, rebooting & installing Talk from the following post, Talk works perfectly fine on Kindle Fire HD, unless it goes into sleep mode.
(If existing apps stop responding at this point, remove and reinstall them)
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31814980&postcount=20
 
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Misfit77

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I have got YouTube, Gmail, Currents and Google Maps working in the Kindle Fire HD without rooting. However Google Maps is not able to get the location from Wifi and is not able to sign in using the following process. I was unable to get GTalk (also attached) to work so far. The following process does not use GoogleServicesFramework as was used in the Gingerbread version of Kindle Fire.

I have modded the apps with high resolution 256x256 icons for display in Kindle Fire Carousel using the following guide.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1495854

I have used You Tube 3.5.5 modded for HD playback. Alternatively this works with any of the APKs found in the following topic or built for Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1529715

1. Enable installation of applications from unknown sources in Kindle Fire Settings.
2. Install GoogleLoginService.apk.
3. Reboot.
4. Install the Google Apps.
5. Start YouTube. Sign In. It will take you to Google Account Manager to create/use existing Google credentials.
6. Same goes for other apps. In case sign in fails for any of the apps (except Maps/GTalk) drag down the Kindle Fire notification bar, click on the notification for "Permission requested....." and assign required permissions.

The files can be downloaded from here
https://www.box.com/s/kf6n8qpdncscnhmsz3ox

Any help getting GTalk to work would be appreciated.


When I first got my fire I side loaded Gtalk after installing GoogleServicesFramework and it worked fine. I just installed the GoogleLoginService.apk and was able to log in to Youtube just fine but that does seem to have broken Gtalk for me. The gtalk .apk I was using just hangs while trying to sign me in. The one you provided immediately force closes when I try to open it. It seems to be trying to log me in as "@youtube.com" as opposed to "@gmail.com". I have been able to get it to let me sign incorrectly with gmail/drive/youtube but I don't get a chance to choose my log in as gtalk tries to start right up. That is weird that is was working before and now it's not. Any ideas?

Update: Using a google maps .apk I had as opposed to the one you included I was able to get maps up and running flawlessly as well as Navigation with turn by turn. I was also able to get Google Drive working as well. Here is the maps .apk I used:https://www.dropbox.com/s/lh5a4h9i6ex3nhv/com.google.android.apps.maps-1.apk
 
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abhijitxp

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Thanks for the maps apk, I will try it out. Well, multiple google/drive/youtube login thing never happened for me. Are you having both of these files - Gingerbread version of GoogleServicesFramework.apk and ICS version of GoogleLoginService.apk in the system? It could cause a problem. Otherwise doing a Clear Data on the GoogleLoginService (Google Account Manager) may clean up those ids.
 

dmullens

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drive

I can't get drive to.work. keeps telling me that drive has stopped. I installed it from 1mobile and app brain. Any suggestions?
 
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Misfit77

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Thanks for the maps apk, I will try it out. Well, multiple google/drive/youtube login thing never happened for me. Are you having both of these files - Gingerbread version of GoogleServicesFramework.apk and ICS version of GoogleLoginService.apk in the system? It could cause a problem. Otherwise doing a Clear Data on the GoogleLoginService (Google Account Manager) may clean up those ids.

I believe they are both ICS. Not to sound like a noob but what do you mean "clearing data ont he GoogleLoginService"?

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I can't get drive to.work. keeps telling me that drive has stopped. I installed it from 1mobile and app brain. Any suggestions?

I had just GoogleServiceFramework installed and it did not work. After I also installed GoogleLoginService from above I could able to get looged into Drive and able to access my files. I hope this helps.
 

dmullens

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I had just GoogleServiceFramework installed and it did not work. After I also installed GoogleLoginService from above I could able to get looged into Drive and able to access my files. I hope this helps.

Okay. Do you have a good source for that apk?

Also I believe he is referring to going into the Application Management settings area and clearing the data.

Thanks!
 

Varlokkur

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thanks! Has anyone tried side loading Google Calendars or Reader yet?

Sent from my KFTT using xda premium
 

alkemist80

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When I first got my fire I side loaded Gtalk after installing GoogleServicesFramework and it worked fine. [/URL]

How did you get gtalk to work? Which apk did you use? My fire HD is rooted and GoogleServicesFramework installed and every time I open gtalk, it force closes immediately. I hardly even get a chance to see the error screen before it clears. Everything else I have installed works, play, maps and youtube.
 
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Misfit77

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Okay. Do you have a good source for that apk?

Also I believe he is referring to going into the Application Management settings area and clearing the data.

Thanks for that, I used this Google Drive .apk https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4p25wadossvw6h/Drive_1.1.4.12.apk

Thanks!

How did you get gtalk to work? Which apk did you use? My fire HD is rooted and GoogleServicesFramework installed and every time I open gtalk, it force closes immediately. I hardly even get a chance to see the error screen before it clears. Everything else I have installed works, play, maps and youtube.

For Gtalk I had only installed Googleservicesframework and I used this .apk https://www.dropbox.com/s/svq3ehtv4jdfrvn/Talk.apk

Good luck guys!
 
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I had just GoogleServiceFramework installed and it did not work. After I also installed GoogleLoginService from above I could able to get looged into Drive and able to access my files. I hope this helps.

Where did you get the apk for GoogleServiceFramework? I tried using one from my Nexus 7, but it would not install. Maybe because it is JB and I need an ICS version? Thanks.
 

dmullens

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I'm still having trouble with Drive. Youtube works, maps work, currents work, and so does Google books. I would really like Drive.to work as well.


Here's what it does. I have the Google accounts all installed but not the framework. When I had the framework installed quite a few programs stopped working. Now when I install drive, about 2 seconds later I get a message that drive has stopped. Then I go to the home screen and then get another drive has stopped message. If I try running it, a few times it looks like it is doing something, but I end up with the same.message. sometimes when I true running it I just get the message.

Yes, I've shut down several times. Any advice is appreciated.
 

Xyth

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I'm still having trouble with Drive. Youtube works, maps work, currents work, and so does Google books. I would really like Drive.to work as well. .....Yes, I've shut down several times. Any advice is appreciated.

I had some apps working using only the OP instructions; that is I wasn't running the framework at all. When I loaded the framework (then rebooted) so I could run the rest, most previously working apps stopped working. I found that if I reinstalled (no need to uninstall) those apps via ES file explorer (it has supervisor permissions) they immediately started working. I did root last night, but have not messed with the system folder to load Play as there is no backup yet. Not sure root is needed though, nor if supervisor permissions is an issue. Every app works great now. Only weirdness is Maps shows my position about 500 yards off target, while mapQuest is spot on. No biggie, just strange.

Thanks to the OP and others for getting us this far.
 

abhijitxp

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For Gtalk I had only installed Googleservicesframework and I used this .apk https://www.dropbox.com/s/svq3ehtv4jdfrvn/Talk.apk

Good luck guys!

Well, this might be the Gingerbread version of Talk. The ICS versions I have are all > 2MB. The Gingerbread GoogleServicesFramework - Gingerbread Talk combination works fine in the ICS Kindle Fire HD but it messes up other Google Apps. Also I am unable to install any ICS version of GoogleServicesFramework yet. And the ICS version of Talk is unable to login without the Framework.
 

alkemist80

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4.0.3 GoogleServicesFramework and Gtalk app from my EVO 3D. Both are running on my ROOTED kindle fire HD, no problems with google maps, play store or youtubeHD. However Gtalk does not seem to be supporting the front facing camera and causes the app to crash if you or someone else tries to connect via camera. Still trying to get gmail to function correctly, it will not push emails.

I seem to still be running into issues with Gtalk logging out while the device is in sleep mode.
 

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    I have got YouTube, Gmail, Currents and Google Maps working in the Kindle Fire HD without rooting. However Google Maps is not able to get the location from Wifi and is not able to sign in using the following process. I was unable to get GTalk (also attached) to work so far. The following process does not use GoogleServicesFramework as was used in the Gingerbread version of Kindle Fire.

    I have modded the apps with high resolution 256x256 icons for display in Kindle Fire Carousel using the following guide.
    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1495854

    I have used You Tube 3.5.5 modded for HD playback. Alternatively this works with any of the APKs found in the following topic or built for Ice Cream Sandwich.
    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1529715

    1. Enable installation of applications from unknown sources in Kindle Fire Settings.
    2. Install GoogleLoginService.apk.
    3. Reboot.
    4. Install the Google Apps.
    5. Start YouTube. Sign In. It will take you to Google Account Manager to create/use existing Google credentials.
    6. Same goes for other apps. In case sign in fails for any of the apps (except Maps/GTalk) drag down the Kindle Fire notification bar, click on the notification for "Permission requested....." and assign required permissions.

    The files can be downloaded from here
    https://www.box.com/s/kf6n8qpdncscnhmsz3ox

    UPDATE: Thanks to alkemist80, installing GoogleServicesFramework.apk, rebooting & installing Talk from the following post, Talk works perfectly fine on Kindle Fire HD, unless it goes into sleep mode.
    (If existing apps stop responding at this point, remove and reinstall them)
    http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31814980&postcount=20
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    Is it possible to get the newest version of YouTube to work on this without root? I couldn't sign in, kept telling me I needed Google Play installed. So I'm guessing it won't work. I'm currently using an older 3.5 version which is okay, but I like the newer versions more.

    Don't think latest one (4.2.16) works properly un-rooted, latest one I got working with sign-in was YouTube version 4.1.47 which I can't really tell the difference between that & 4.2.16 so that may help you.

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _


    Also for any new KFHD owners a bit bewildered by this thread I've managed to get these Google Apps listed below working great on my Kindle Fire HD (Stock 7.2.3) with the GoogleLoginService.apk & GoogleFrameworkServices.apk mentioned at the end of the post, just install both of those & reboot your KFHD & then install any of these GApps, sign-in should work if done correctly :)

    • Gmail 4.0.5 (Sign-in working, syncs mail but can be a little buggy, versions 4.1.2 & 4.2.1 are very buggy, notifications don't work)
    • Google Chrome 18.0.1025469 (Sign-in working, shows Sync options but haven't checked anything else)
    • Google Drive 1.1.470.15 (Sign-in working, downloaded & ran files OK)
    • Google Maps 6.14.2 (Settings work without crashing if both Google Service APKs are installed)
    • Google Play Music 4.5.910I.560208 (Sign-in working, my uploaded Music was playable etc.)
    • Google Play Movies 2.3.7 (Sign-in working, but doesn't seem to be very useful without Google Play Store)
    • Google Currents 2.0.1 (Sign-in works, App seemed to work well)
    • Google Calendar 201212060 (Sign-in working, although it does give a Notification about Google Play Services though even if installed)
    • Google+ 3.5.0.41809231 (Sign-in working, created an account on the device, settings worked & seemed to run OK)
    • YouTube 4.1.47 (Sign-in working, no major issues so far)

    Think most of those are up-to-date versions bar Youtube & Gmail as of posting.

    Download both Google Service APKs from here - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1897380

    Thanks to alkemist80 & abhijitxp for putting me on the right track ;)
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    Rapidshare Link

    Havent expected the 10 GB bandwidth to get used up so soon.
    Uploaded to Rapidshare. Hope it works...
    https://rapidshare.com/files/3806704691/google_apps.rar?bin=1
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    i heard some people wanted chrome's apk http://db.tt/XusgJqsX

    Sent from my KFTT using xda app-developers app
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    4.0.3 GoogleServicesFramework and Gtalk app from my EVO 3D. Both are running on my ROOTED kindle fire HD, no problems with google maps, play store or youtubeHD. However Gtalk does not seem to be supporting the front facing camera and causes the app to crash if you or someone else tries to connect via camera. Still trying to get gmail to function correctly, it will not push emails.

    I seem to still be running into issues with Gtalk logging out while the device is in sleep mode.