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I have a codec called ARM v7 Neon, but my tablet's processor is Exynos 5 Octa.

Since I am having stuttering issues with HD video streamed over AC WiFi, I figured maybe the codec was an issue.

If I aim my AC-enabled laptop at the same HD video file over the same WiFi connection it plays on Windows Media Player without a hitch.

MX player is good for about 25 seconds of "good" playback before the audio clipping (?) sets in. It's not horrendous - the speakers are legible and the image looks perfect. Pausing playback for five seconds and then resuming gives another 25 seconds of good playback.

So.... have I got the right codec?

Some other issue?
 
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I have a codec called ARM v7 Neon, but my tablet's processor is Exynos 5 Octa.

Since I am having stuttering issues with HD video streamed over AC WiFi, I figured maybe the codec was an issue.

If I aim my AC-enabled laptop at the same HD video file over the same WiFi connection it plays on Windows Media Player without a hitch.

MX player is good for about 25 seconds of "good" playback before the audio clipping (?) sets in. It's not horrendous - the speakers are legible and the image looks perfect. Pausing playback for five seconds and then resuming gives another 25 seconds of good playback.

So.... have I got the right codec?

Some other issue?

Can you tell me what the total bit rate is and is in an .mp4, .mkv, .avi or .mov?
 
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Rates According To Windows

Can you tell me what the total bit rate is and is in an .mp4, .mkv, .avi or .mov?

It is a .MPG file recorded straight from the over-the-air stream.

Windows.Properties.Video says Total Bitrate = 16,408kbps, Data rate = 16,216kbps

Windows.Properties.Audio says Bit rate = 192kbps, Audio sample rate = 48 kHz

I've got a trimmed version (2 minutes/200 megs) that I could post somewhere, but to reproduce the problem it would have to be viewed over 802.11AC.

Video looks a-ok, it's the audio that is problematic. Over N, audio is almost unintelligible right from the start. But over AC it's perfect for about the first ten seconds and then playback has to be paused for five seconds to get perfect playback for another 20-30 seconds. But even when it's "bad" under AC, it's not nearly as bad as under N.

But I have to keep coming back to the fact that an AC-capable laptop has no problems at all.
 
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It is a .MPG file recorded straight from the over-the-air stream.

Windows.Properties.Video says Total Bitrate = 16,408kbps, Data rate = 16,216kbps

Windows.Properties.Audio says Bit rate = 192kbps, Audio sample rate = 48 kHz

I've got a trimmed version (2 minutes/200 megs) that I could post somewhere, but to reproduce the problem it would have to be viewed over 802.11AC.

Video looks a-ok, it's the audio that is problematic. Over N, audio is almost unintelligible right from the start. But over AC it's perfect for about the first ten seconds and then playback has to be paused for five seconds to get perfect playback for another 20-30 seconds. But even when it's "bad" under AC, it's not nearly as bad as under N.

But I have to keep coming back to the fact that an AC-capable laptop has no problems at all.

Video stream playback issues are hard to track down so it may take a lot of trial and error. So get ready for a lot of questions.

I think this could be an audio codec issue not video.........

If you give me a link to that trimmed file I can test it as I have an AC1300 router.

Are you making these video files or are you downloading them? If your making them can I ask why are you using .mpg over say .mkv or .mp4 as I believe those have better audio codec choices.

When you go into your tablets wifi settings what is the link speed in Mbps?

Are you the same distance from the router when you use the laptop and the tablet? Are you streaming this from your computer or from a drive on the router?

Have you installed an app like Wifi Analyzer to see what your signal stream looks like.

Have you tried a few of the other video players in the play store like the ones below to see if they may work better.
Mobo Video Player Pro
HD Video Player
iMPlayer+
VPlayer Video Player

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I think this could be an audio codec issue not video.........

If you give me a link to that trimmed file I can test it as I have an AC1300 router.

The forum will not let me post a link until I've put up "approximately 10 posts".
Flip me an email address or just wait until the forum is happy.

Are you making these video files or are you downloading them?
They are coming right off the air via a SilconDust tuner.

When you go into your tablets wifi settings what is the link speed in Mbps?
It's all over the place. Seems like it returns some recent figure rather than the max speed.
I've seen well over 400kbps and the Ubiquiti "UniFi Controller" app used for setup and oversight of the WAP is reporting "40.0M" right now as the tablet is playing the video.

Are you the same distance from the router when you use the laptop and the tablet?
Yes, approximately 3 feet - on the corner of a kitchen table next to the TV stand where the WAP lives.

Are you streaming this from your computer or from a drive on the router?
From a hard drive on my 24-7 computer - running Windows 7.

Have you installed an app like xxxx
Here is what WiFi Analyzer shows - with the tablet in the same position as when playing the vid:
CH36 5180 MHz -45dBm

Have you tried a few of the other video players in the play store like the ones below to see if they may work better.
xxxxx
.
I've tried the native Samsung player, MoboPlayer, BS Player, and a couple others whose names escape me at the moment. On all, the playback was worse than MX Player's. I will try the other three on the list and report back.
 
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The forum will not let me post a link until I've put up "approximately 10 posts".

Here is a workaround - URL munged to fool the forum:

doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyou dot filedropper dot com slash charlierose-4476563-0truncatedto2minutes02

This is my first time using FileDropper, so let me know if there is any problem and I will put it someplace else.
 
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Here is a workaround - URL munged to fool the forum:

doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyou dot filedropper dot com slash charlierose-4476563-0truncatedto2minutes02

This is my first time using FileDropper, so let me know if there is any problem and I will put it someplace else.

OK, got the file.

Voice to lips is off on desktop pc, converted to.MP4 voice is right on and file went from 200mb to 145mb with same compression. What model SilconDust tuner are you using as the picture is great. So is your stream from a recorded file on your hard drive or a direct live stream from your SilconDust tuner.

How are you getting the signal to your tablet, with an app?

Streams to my SM-P600 using MXplayer on a 5GHz N router voice is out of sync a little but no audio clipping for entire 2 minute clip.

Will update later about the 5GHz AC router as it is at my home.
 
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Voice to lips is off on desktop pc, converted to.MP4 voice is right on and file went from 200mb to 145mb with same compression. What model SilconDust tuner are you using as the picture is great. So is your stream from a recorded file on your hard drive or a direct live stream from your SilconDust tuner.
All I can find on the devices is "Silicon Dust HD HomeRun Dual ATSC Tuner". No model numbers. I have two boxes. Each box has two tuners in it.

I use SageTV to schedule and record. As I understand it from the SageTV docs there is zero processing/transcoding going on. Sage just takes the signal from the HD HomeRun and writes it to disc. Voice/video synch for the local PBS station is not always that wonderful - even when viewed directly on my TV.

How are you getting the signal to your tablet, with an app?
That one may have gone over my head.

I am using FX File Manager to link to the Windows-shared drive on the PC where the files live. When I "Open" a .mpg file, Android turns it over to MX Player unless I do an "Open With". So I *think* the answer is that the tablet app is reading the file directly.

Streams to my SM-P600 using MXplayer on a 5GHz N router voice is out of sync a little but no audio clipping for entire 2 minute clip.
Will update later about the 5GHz AC router as it is at my home.
Unencumbered by any knowledge of this stuff, I'm starting to think I have a problem with my tablet. If it plays OK on your P600 over the AC router maybe you can share the exact filenames of both your video and audio drivers and, hopefully, there will be a difference against mine....
 
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I mean install the apk and try to play the video with XBMC.

Definitely best player out there.


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All I can find on the devices is "Silicon Dust HD HomeRun Dual ATSC Tuner". No model numbers. I have two boxes. Each box has two tuners in it.

I use SageTV to schedule and record. As I understand it from the SageTV docs there is zero processing/transcoding going on. Sage just takes the signal from the HD HomeRun and writes it to disc. Voice/video synch for the local PBS station is not always that wonderful - even when viewed directly on my TV.


That one may have gone over my head.

I am using FX File Manager to link to the Windows-shared drive on the PC where the files live. When I "Open" a .mpg file, Android turns it over to MX Player unless I do an "Open With". So I *think* the answer is that the tablet app is reading the file directly.


Unencumbered by any knowledge of this stuff, I'm starting to think I have a problem with my tablet. If it plays OK on your P600 over the AC router maybe you can share the exact filenames of both your video and audio drivers and, hopefully, there will be a difference against mine....

OK, got the file.

Voice to lips is off on desktop pc, converted to.MP4 voice is right on and file went from 200mb to 145mb with same compression. What model SilconDust tuner are you using as the picture is great. So is your stream from a recorded file on your hard drive or a direct live stream from your SilconDust tuner.

How are you getting the signal to your tablet, with an app?

Streams to my SM-P600 using MXplayer on a 5GHz N router voice is out of sync a little but no audio clipping for entire 2 minute clip.

Will update later about the 5GHz AC router as it is at my home.

Your file plays in a stream without any clipping over my AC router.
 
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Your file plays in a stream without any clipping over my AC router.

Can you say what "drivers" you are using for audio and video?

Quotes because I am not cure of the terminology.... "Codecs" ?

I'm thinking that if it plays ok on your P600 over AC, the problem must be in my P600 - especially since it plays ok on my Windows laptop over AC.

We are both using MX Player, right?
 

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Can you say what "drivers" you are using for audio and video?

Quotes because I am not cure of the terminology.... "Codecs" ?

I'm thinking that if it plays ok on your P600 over AC, the problem must be in my P600 - especially since it plays ok on my Windows laptop over AC.

We are both using MX Player, right?

Please tell me were your files reside (computer, laptop, router??) and how your laptop gets and plays them VS. how does you tablet get access to those files.

My files are stored on a hard drive that is attached to a USB port on my AC router, my tablet uses MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA browse to gain access to those files and then MX Player opens the video file for viewing.
 
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Please tell me were your files reside (computer, laptop, router??) and how your laptop gets and plays them VS. how does you tablet get access to those files.

My files are stored on a hard drive that is attached to a USB port on my AC router, my tablet uses MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA browse to gain access to those files and then MX Player opens the video file for viewing.

The problem file resides on a 2-TB hard drive that is connected to a Windows 7 PC.

I *think* the laptop and the tablet access the file in the same manner: via a Windows connection as in NET USE - but I don't know enough about Android (or, for that matter, Windows) to say the methods are exactly the same. All I can say for sure is that, in both cases, I specify a DeviceName\ShareName to make the connection. The tablet is using v2.3.0.10 of the "FX" file manager with the FX "Network" add-in. I get the directory list in FX, tap on the file name, and MX Player takes over.

On the laptop, I'm using Windows Media Player.
 

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The problem file resides on a 2-TB hard drive that is connected to a Windows 7 PC.

I *think* the laptop and the tablet access the file in the same manner: via a Windows connection as in NET USE - but I don't know enough about Android (or, for that matter, Windows) to say the methods are exactly the same. All I can say for sure is that, in both cases, I specify a DeviceName\ShareName to make the connection. The tablet is using v2.3.0.10 of the "FX" file manager with the FX "Network" add-in. I get the directory list in FX, tap on the file name, and MX Player takes over.

On the laptop, I'm using Windows Media Player.

I tried your file again using FX file manager and I get the same results, smooth playback entire time.

The 2tb drive your using is it a portable drive? How many hard wired devices are sharing your network? How many wireless devices share your network?

I have a tivo, TV and a computer hard wired on my network and only my table uses my wireless connection. Have you tried using Media House that I mentioned in one of my other postings, you may get a different result and it shows album art and shows a photo from video as an icon.
 
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    I have a codec called ARM v7 Neon, but my tablet's processor is Exynos 5 Octa.

    Since I am having stuttering issues with HD video streamed over AC WiFi, I figured maybe the codec was an issue.

    If I aim my AC-enabled laptop at the same HD video file over the same WiFi connection it plays on Windows Media Player without a hitch.

    MX player is good for about 25 seconds of "good" playback before the audio clipping (?) sets in. It's not horrendous - the speakers are legible and the image looks perfect. Pausing playback for five seconds and then resuming gives another 25 seconds of good playback.

    So.... have I got the right codec?

    Some other issue?

    Can you tell me what the total bit rate is and is in an .mp4, .mkv, .avi or .mov?
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    It is a .MPG file recorded straight from the over-the-air stream.

    Windows.Properties.Video says Total Bitrate = 16,408kbps, Data rate = 16,216kbps

    Windows.Properties.Audio says Bit rate = 192kbps, Audio sample rate = 48 kHz

    I've got a trimmed version (2 minutes/200 megs) that I could post somewhere, but to reproduce the problem it would have to be viewed over 802.11AC.

    Video looks a-ok, it's the audio that is problematic. Over N, audio is almost unintelligible right from the start. But over AC it's perfect for about the first ten seconds and then playback has to be paused for five seconds to get perfect playback for another 20-30 seconds. But even when it's "bad" under AC, it's not nearly as bad as under N.

    But I have to keep coming back to the fact that an AC-capable laptop has no problems at all.

    Video stream playback issues are hard to track down so it may take a lot of trial and error. So get ready for a lot of questions.

    I think this could be an audio codec issue not video.........

    If you give me a link to that trimmed file I can test it as I have an AC1300 router.

    Are you making these video files or are you downloading them? If your making them can I ask why are you using .mpg over say .mkv or .mp4 as I believe those have better audio codec choices.

    When you go into your tablets wifi settings what is the link speed in Mbps?

    Are you the same distance from the router when you use the laptop and the tablet? Are you streaming this from your computer or from a drive on the router?

    Have you installed an app like Wifi Analyzer to see what your signal stream looks like.

    Have you tried a few of the other video players in the play store like the ones below to see if they may work better.
    Mobo Video Player Pro
    HD Video Player
    iMPlayer+
    VPlayer Video Player

    .
    1
    Here is a workaround - URL munged to fool the forum:

    doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyou dot filedropper dot com slash charlierose-4476563-0truncatedto2minutes02

    This is my first time using FileDropper, so let me know if there is any problem and I will put it someplace else.

    OK, got the file.

    Voice to lips is off on desktop pc, converted to.MP4 voice is right on and file went from 200mb to 145mb with same compression. What model SilconDust tuner are you using as the picture is great. So is your stream from a recorded file on your hard drive or a direct live stream from your SilconDust tuner.

    How are you getting the signal to your tablet, with an app?

    Streams to my SM-P600 using MXplayer on a 5GHz N router voice is out of sync a little but no audio clipping for entire 2 minute clip.

    Will update later about the 5GHz AC router as it is at my home.
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    All I can find on the devices is "Silicon Dust HD HomeRun Dual ATSC Tuner". No model numbers. I have two boxes. Each box has two tuners in it.

    I use SageTV to schedule and record. As I understand it from the SageTV docs there is zero processing/transcoding going on. Sage just takes the signal from the HD HomeRun and writes it to disc. Voice/video synch for the local PBS station is not always that wonderful - even when viewed directly on my TV.


    That one may have gone over my head.

    I am using FX File Manager to link to the Windows-shared drive on the PC where the files live. When I "Open" a .mpg file, Android turns it over to MX Player unless I do an "Open With". So I *think* the answer is that the tablet app is reading the file directly.


    Unencumbered by any knowledge of this stuff, I'm starting to think I have a problem with my tablet. If it plays OK on your P600 over the AC router maybe you can share the exact filenames of both your video and audio drivers and, hopefully, there will be a difference against mine....

    OK, got the file.

    Voice to lips is off on desktop pc, converted to.MP4 voice is right on and file went from 200mb to 145mb with same compression. What model SilconDust tuner are you using as the picture is great. So is your stream from a recorded file on your hard drive or a direct live stream from your SilconDust tuner.

    How are you getting the signal to your tablet, with an app?

    Streams to my SM-P600 using MXplayer on a 5GHz N router voice is out of sync a little but no audio clipping for entire 2 minute clip.

    Will update later about the 5GHz AC router as it is at my home.

    Your file plays in a stream without any clipping over my AC router.
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    Can you say what "drivers" you are using for audio and video?

    Quotes because I am not cure of the terminology.... "Codecs" ?

    I'm thinking that if it plays ok on your P600 over AC, the problem must be in my P600 - especially since it plays ok on my Windows laptop over AC.

    We are both using MX Player, right?

    Please tell me were your files reside (computer, laptop, router??) and how your laptop gets and plays them VS. how does you tablet get access to those files.

    My files are stored on a hard drive that is attached to a USB port on my AC router, my tablet uses MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA browse to gain access to those files and then MX Player opens the video file for viewing.