Depends on the app. Systemapps have no problem but user apps may have problems
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Changes in Stock 4.4 [Summarized] [My Observations Added on Page 17]
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Depends on the app. Systemapps have no problem but user apps may have problems
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- wake lag is gone
- notification bar is improved and lag is gone here too!
- generally feels smoother
- snote now has zoom handwriting
- visual touchwiz changes throughout
that's what i noticed right away. also, i can't tell for sure, but it seems like multi window is faster, maybe because of more ram.
I'm very interested in this too. Will the SD card slot be of any use to unrooted users? If not, is the fix as easy as modifying build.prop?
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You can still copy media files to the sd, via a sync suite or with a card reader, and players will read them. It should be a bit like the goode olde Nokia S40 experience.
Everything is handled via a pc, that is. Oldskool. Probably you cannot even delete such files w/o a usb/wifi pc connection.
Everything is handled via a pc, that is. Oldskool. Probably you cannot even delete such files w/o a usb/wifi pc connection.
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Maybe I'm just missing something, but is lock screen widgets missing from the KK update for anyone else? I cant seem to find the feature anywhere, and certainly not where it was located in the 4.3 firmwares.
Thanks for the overview. I lol'd when you said "It gives me pie".:laugh:
Added Note Pro Features .
I just added Note Pro Keyboard and Note Pro Recent Apps Switcher and Note Pro Notification Drop Down to the New Kitkat Rom !
This Tablets getting better and better with a few more tweaks ..
You guys should check this Link to know more !!
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2721077
I just added Note Pro Keyboard and Note Pro Recent Apps Switcher and Note Pro Notification Drop Down to the New Kitkat Rom !
This Tablets getting better and better with a few more tweaks ..
You guys should check this Link to know more !!
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2721077
No, it is completely re-designed, better then ever and I didn't have any lags any more (before a start takes up to 1 minute at the end).Myfiles still lagging ?
I'm also loving the updated s-note interface haven't played around to see everything that's new in it, but it now works with notes from my older note tablets, which is a good sign.
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haven't played around to see everything that's new in it, but it now works with notes from my older note tablets, which is a good sign. Sent from my C6916 using Tapatalk
I'm also loving the updated s-note interface
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Is snote as smooth as it is in galaxy note 3 or lecture notes
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I dont have a note 3 or make much use of lecturenotes, modtly due to the habit of using snote, but it does seem much smoother and more polished than previously seen on this device on 4.3
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I don't have any issues with the search, connection and data transfer. But my mouse (I expect the same for keyboards) still drops after some seconds...
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30I went through the thread and summarized the changes. While the stuff discussed is new to us it's the same as the Tab Pro 10.1. Here's a link to the Tab Pro user manual in case anyone wants more detail. http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...axy_Tab_PRO_KK_English_User_Manual_NAE_F2.pdf
Cliff Notes [Updated: May 14]
Changes to Multi View
New Notification Panel
Updated Pen Window that Support all Multi View Apps
You can add tons more apps out of the box. Apps available are now common to both multiview and Pen Window. You can now directly open Pen Window apps without using Air Command or having to draw on the screen. You just open the multiview panel from the right and tap an app (vs. dragging it). A box comes up allowing you to open it in traditional multiview mode or floating like Cascade view worked on the OG Note 10.1. Pretty cool.
Tapping the box with the "+" sign shown below opens an app in a floating window, the box below it opens it as a standard multiview window.
Revised Task Manager (no change to capacitive button functions)
Improved Scrap Book App
Smoother Performance
Multi Touch Bug Improved
Additional Lock Screen Security Option
S Note Improvements
Improved Stand-by Battery Life
Standby battery life has Donatella improved! Usually the best of her overnight is losing 1% every 6 hours. This is with wifi off. I unplugged last night at midnight as it was fully charged and went to bed. 9 hours later is still at 100%
Support for Multiuser
Improved My Files App
New S Pen Behavior
Greatly Reduced (Exynos) Charging Time
Improved Battery Life
*Screen Write (via Air Command) Images no Longer Compressed
*Mini (Floating?) Keyboard Default in Multi View
*Lock Screen "Cards" Replace Lock Screen Widgets
Note: This exists on the Pro 12.2's, it doesn't exist on the 8.4 and 10.1 Pro's so it's highly doubtful we'll be getting it. So there's nothing to replace the now missing lock screen widgets
*Note 10.1 2014's Getting Hancom Office (all Samsung 4.4 tablets including the $199 Tab4 7 are getting it)
Samsung e-Meeting's Available
Available In Samsung App's. So the only thing we don't have from the Pro's officially is the new keyboard, M-UX, and Remote PC. The latter's available here ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2624986 )and can be loaded as a standard APK. Personally, with M-UX so barren of widgets and tiles, the loss of another resource hog of questionable value isn't really a loss; at least to me. I would like (without rooting) to have the new keyboard but such is life.
5It is possible
Yes it is possible to use the menue softkey to open up the task manager.
But you have to be rooted.
Use an root file explorer to navigate to /system/usr/keylayout/Generic.kl
Edit line 139 and change "MENU" to "APP_SWITCH"
Save the file and then reboot. now you have a recent apps softkey5Here's my take on the update. I haven't commented on the things talked about in the first post as it would be repetitive. As always, YMMV.
Performance:
Pretty much night and day. I have a huge number of apps and widgets so I represent the extreme. Someone said 4.4 was N3 fast; not quite but pretty close. Those with less crap than I have should notice a huge difference.
Battery:
Hard to tell. I had a bear of a time getting 4.4 installed via Odin with it failing half-a-dozen times. For some reason my N10.1-14 barely charged last night and stayed at around 35% over about 7 hours. It charged fine and almost fully during the day. I'm using it pretty heavily today and I'd guess my battery is better than before; it's certainly no worse. It's going to take a couple of days for me to get a complete read on where battery life and charging time lands.
Multiview/Pen Window
You can add tons more apps out of the box. Apps available are now common to both multiview and Pen Window. You can now directly open Pen Window apps without using Air Command or having to draw on the screen. You just open the multiview panel from the right and tap an app (vs. dragging it). A box comes up allowing you to open it in traditional multiview mode or floating like Cascade view worked on the OG Note 10.1. Pretty cool.
Tapping the box with the "+" sign shown below opens an app in a floating window, the box below it opens it as a standard multiview window.
Daynote's gone/Trip Advisor wallpaper works:
Daynote no esta aqui, at least on the Panama ROM. The travel lock screen wallpaper’s been fixed for the 2,560x1,600 display and it's gorgeous. It used to look funky to accommodate portrait which doesn't exist on the N3 from whence it came.
Lock screen widgets still exist:
At least on the Panama ROM and/or my configuration.
Apps that have been noticeably cleaned up:
Mail - Cleaner, flatter, faster. Push has been added for GMail like on the N3. The new widget sucks. Combined view is the only option and the font used is huge and non-adjustable so in a 4x3 configuration you can see three e-mails.
Browser - Really nicely redone and a lot faster. Headers and controls have been re-worked so there's more browser content and less "stuff." Zoom seems less neurotic with sites opening consistently in the set viewing size (85% in my case). Reader-mode now has a night view and integration with S Note and Scrapbook. The bookmarks widget can't be re-sized anymore it's fixed at 4x2.
Scrapbook - Cleaned up and a lot faster.
S Note - Faster with some additional editing controls I haven't explored yet.
My Files - Better organized with additional filters/options for drilling down to find specific content.
S Voice, S Planner, Video Player, Gallery - Cleaned up and easier to find stuff and navigate
Problems/Issues
None yet. Long pressing the period gives me a question mark, playing with the notification panel while watching video’s fine, and I have no issues playing back video. I had to side load Samsung Video for Hub because my country didn’t support and the 4.3 version FC’s on 4.4. @nrage23 was kind enough to upload the new version and all’s good. So, all-in-all, I’m a happy camper.4
Huh? It was released in October, 2013, which makes it six months from launch when it got 4.4. And out of the long list of devices Samsung promised 4.4 for it was first (not counting the N3 and SGS4 which were being upgraded before the list was published).
Why? They cost the same and Samsung makes the same margin. The only more profitable tablets than the N10.1-14 are the 12.2 inchers.
Huh? 10" Android tablets have never sold well. Cheap 7/8" tablets are the majority of Android tablets sales. Apple owns the large format tablet space with the iPad/iPad Air. If you look at the 12.2 forums they aren't exactly bustling with activity. If 10" isn't large enough for you buy a 12". But don't assume everyone feels the same way. For me, 10" is the perfect balance. I can still get productivity work done and have the portability I view as important.
As for quad screen multi view, sure, I'd like to have it. Would I use it? Probably not. The windows would be too small (at least for me) on a 10" display. The Tab Pro 10.1 doesn't have quad screen multi view either.
This I agree with and was hoping for. Samsung could have brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro level" with this update. To a certain extent they did. From what people are reporting we got all the UI updates with the exception of M-UX. The value of M-UX is debatable anyway since a large portion of its features were omitted between being shown at CES and appearing on production devices. And the reason we didn't get it may have more to do with converting existing users to it when they are already using more "standard" home screens than there are standard/M-UX home screens combined. The only other things that seem to be missing (so far) are the updated keyboard and Pro-specific apps like Hancom and e-Meeting. In a way, this update's perfect for me. I get the performance improvements of 4.4, the "freshening" of TW from the Pros, and don't have to reconfigure the way I use my device.
No offense, but you're out of your mind. I had a N8000 for over a year and there's no comparison between the two. The old one was heavy, big, and shiny. The 147 PPI display was embarrassing from the start and downright painful to use. The original Note 10.1 was smoother in some regard but with the CPU/GPU only pushing 147 PPI that's not really a challenge. I used my N8000 as a laptop replacement about 25% of the time. I'm up to 50+% on the N10.1-14
You're entitled to your opinion (everyone here is) but don't assume it represents the "world."
