ICS GENERAL- For discussion on the ICS update

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jtdc

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^ the video on ICS especially when you do HD, stutters. but i think its only during playback on the phone. when transfer the file out to a capable PC, i think there should be no stuttering/lost frames.

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rec71 said:
I wish I'd bought a Galaxy Nexus instead of an arc S. The lack of a SD slot put me off but with hindsight it would of been a better purchase. Oh well, you live and learn. :)
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The Galaxy Nexus has these "soft" android buttons which eats the screen estate. The lack of hardware button would also mean you can't unlock it when placed on a table. Hence I would prefer Arc physically over it!
 
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^eLipS# said:
I have a question: is camera quality better on ICS or GB? I had ICS for like a month and then I downgraded to GB. Comparing pictures taken on ICS and GB for me it seems that ICS wins, especially with macro shots... I'm not sure about a video because while I was on ICS I never took at least one...
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Without stabilizer video is smooth 29-30 fps, with stabilizer 24-30. Like jtdc said video stutters when is recorded or played on phone, but when you open it on PC it's ok.
 
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idecaf

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^eLipS# said:
I have a question: is camera quality better on ICS or GB? I had ICS for like a month and then I downgraded to GB. Comparing pictures taken on ICS and GB for me it seems that ICS wins, especially with macro shots... I'm not sure about a video because while I was on ICS I never took at least one...
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Camera quality on ICS is definitely better for me. It looks like they have lower the compression level so that pictures have more details.
 
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tatkovladko

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^eLipS# said:
I have a question: is camera quality better on ICS or GB? I had ICS for like a month and then I downgraded to GB. Comparing pictures taken on ICS and GB for me it seems that ICS wins, especially with macro shots... I'm not sure about a video because while I was on ICS I never took at least one...
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Unfortunately I have no comparison pics to show but photo quality in ICS was improved, mostly I think by reducing the compression - files went from ~1MB to ~2.5MB. Still, it's a far cry from SGS2 quality.

Regrettably, ICS also brought reduced video quality because even with Stabilization OFF, the video would sometimes stutter, and also it went from stereo to mono recording.

Since I could get good photographic results with 3rd party camera apps (similar to that provided by the ICS upgrade) I am now back to GB because the video quality is apparently better, due to the missing stuttering and the stereo sound.
Still, when displayed on a larger screen such as my 37" TV, there is a lot to be desired both from video and photo quality.
 
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hello guys..I have upgraded to ICS 4.04 on my Arc S..and frankly not satisfied with it..laggy and unresponsive sometimes I even have to turn it off to be functional again..plus half of the games don't work..so I decided to return to GB the .62 version using flash tools..is it ok?any risk there of 0% battery issues?any help is highly appreciated..thank you so much in advance..
 
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hi peeps. after updating via sus to ics on my 2011 arc when it got released i promptly reflashed it back to gb. although just to test recently like today that it was still available to update once again via sus and pcc to find its not offered as an update anymore??? anyone know why sony has pulled this now? i know i can flash it myself but am just curious as to why its no longer available? were there issues?
 
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On the contrary the image quality for me degraded with the ICS update. The images are still grainy and each file now takes 3 times as much size (they are always between 2 and 3mb).
However the worst part is that the colors and contrast are a bit off now. Images are kind washed out. What I mean is.. I used to be able to take great shots with my Arc, now it's almost impossible because there's always something wrong.

I don't have exact comparison shots but this difference would be best explained here.

Unmodified files, full 8mpx, same settings -auto (it decided to use the same ISO - 80 in both cases too). Both photos have been taken in the afternoon, same time of the year, same weather and lighting settings (yet the ICS photos clearly don't convey that).

GB stock rom, ~1.5mb file size, good weather, some objects and the sky:
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ICS, I literally tried super hard to take a good shot and this was the best one. ~2,6mb file size, good weather, some objects and the sky
20120629193621.jpg
 
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johnnyriver

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Hi there,

I too have problems with touch controls in some games. Some times, in the menus, the touch screen stops working, but all the other keys work fine.

Before I did the upgrade to ICS, I was warned that it was irreversible. Is it true?

Thanks!

rec71 said:
I've been on the beta since it was released and the official release for 24 hours and have had the following issues so far:

  • Sometimes when I take a picture I'll get duplicate images in both Gallery apps.
  • Sometimes touch controls in games like Angry Birds simply stop working. Sometimes a reboot will fix it, sometimes I need to power on and off. This is unacceptable IMHO.

Does anyone have any more they want to discuss? The issue with the touch controls may force me back to GB. :(
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sejas

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Sometimes i really feel gingerbread was better then ICS.. I feel like Camera Quality is also reduced.
 
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moolash

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video chat - google talk

Has video chatting in Google Talk (I know we don't have a front camera) been eliminated in ICS?
It came out in the 2.3.4 update and I only see voice talking option now in ICS.
Anyone??

(I know there are .apk's, if that's the only method, I am fine...)
 
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GuestK00173

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I'm back in GB and must say that i don't regret..This is a lot more faster/smoother than ICS.
 
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mr_esmit

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How'd you do that? I'll go the same route, the battery life sucks with ICS. I only get about 10 hrs out of it.
 
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cayal3

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Since I updated my Xperia Arc to ICS, I've noticed my facebook app crashes when trying to post using my phone.

I've cleared the data and cache and reinstalled it, but same issue.

Has anyone else had that problem? Did you fix it?
 
n3n00

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Hi everyone, just got this phone yesterday (Arc S). I like it overall and the stock 2.3.4 is pretty good. No lag and very smooth. Only thing bothering me is the bloatware.

So I'm rooting it in few days to delete the cr*p, but I want to try CM7 or CM9 because I like CM tweaks and possibilites which lack on stock GB. My bootloader is unlockable (checked) so I'm stuck on this (don't want to brick it with "test point" unlock way - I think it's called like that).

Just wondering... is it possible (and better?) to flash official ICS (to get official ICS kernel) and then put some GB ROM? Is it going to be faster? Sorry if this is in wrong thread, I'm new to this part of community and it's confusing :p.
 
Dark Fable

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n3n00 said:
Hi everyone, just got this phone yesterday (Arc S). I like it overall and the stock 2.3.4 is pretty good. No lag and very smooth. Only thing bothering me is the bloatware.

So I'm rooting it in few days to delete the cr*p, but I want to try CM7 or CM9 because I like CM tweaks and possibilites which lack on stock GB. My bootloader is unlockable (checked) so I'm stuck on this (don't want to brick it with "test point" unlock way - I think it's called like that).

Just wondering... is it possible (and better?) to flash official ICS (to get official ICS kernel) and then put some GB ROM? Is it going to be faster? Sorry if this is in wrong thread, I'm new to this part of community and it's confusing :p.
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Just try this GB ROM, its the best in my opinion and hopefully is what you're looking for. :good:
 
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    velislav25
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    DevilMayCry_ said:
    can i flash my ARC with Official ICS update for ARC S?
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    Yes,you can follow the following post : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24825196&postcount=103
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    mr_torture
    mr_torture
    Worth keeping the direction...

    So we are "lucky" to have another ICS update, after the first let-down experience with ICS.

    I upgraded my phone yesterday. Well actually not upgraded, but installed from scratch a fresh new ICS, because I never had good experience with upgrading over existing ROM.

    So, what is the impression...

    After the first booting, everything seemed the same as before. Laggy home screen scrolling, laggy app drawer, the same user interface. But then some positive things started to happen. After few minutes and after some things settled in memory, system started to feel much more sleek and responsive than before.
    First thing to notice is that Phone/Contacts app is not laggy anymore, and it doesn't take few seconds to load as before. It's a shame that this terrible bug was ever present in the first place (in an OFFICIAL software), but given the circumstances, we must praise the fixing of this terrible bug.
    Second thing to notice, is that Camera app feels sleeker than before, and that video recording is not laggy anymore. But I should add that with image stabiliser turned on, you may experience some weird "jumps" if you move across the scene. So unless you're recording a still scene, don't use it. Camera picture quality is nice when you look at photos zoomed out, but when you zoom to 100% you will notice the same compression artifacts as on GB. Using 3rd party camera apps may improve results (Camera Zoom FX or Camera 360), but don't expect too much.*
    Talking about pictures, the third thing to notice is that gallery (Xperia gallery, not the other Gallery) feels faster than last time, and it is loading pictures, even when you have a lot of them, very fast.
    Regarding the LED notification, I see people reporting it still doesn't work properly with WhatsApp, but since I'm not using that app, I can say it's working fine with missed calls and messages, and that's all I need.***
    One more nice thing I noticed, is option "Reject with message" on incoming calls, which appears in the bottom of the screen. I'm not sure was it present in the last update, but I didn't notice it back then. I needed this option a thousands of times before, so thumbs up for this one.
    Browsing seems as fast as on GB, Play Store as well, and all other apps are tolerable regarding speed.
    Wireless seems stable till this moment also...**
    Battery seems to drain a little bit faster than on GB, but it's tolerable. I fully charged it last night on 23:15 and I left wireless and Music player turned on till this morning (unintentionaly - I sleeped with earphones). Also, I was intensively browsing last night while listening music, and this morning as well. And now my battery shows 35% of charge (14:05).

    *Update 1:
    After some additional testing during the day, I can say that Camera app is definitely improved, regarding picture quality. Compression is not as bad as on GB, and tiny details are much clearer now, especially in low light scenes and macro focus. Also, photos size (not resolution-wise, but megabyte-wise) are almost doubled now (about 60-70% to be precise).

    **Update 2:
    After 2 days of testing, I can say that wireless is improved compared to GB, regarding network catching speed, and connection speed. Browser (Dolphin) is now loading and rendering pages much faster compared to GB. Also, I haven't lost connection even once in these two days, and it was happening occasionally on GB, in the middle of page loading.

    ***Update 3:
    For some weird reason, there IS LED notification for some messages, and there is NO LED notification for others (even from the same sender).

    So, to conclude. Compared to last ICS update, this one seems much more polished, complete, functional. Few bugfixes are there, and it doesn't feel as crippled, half-finished product, as it was last time.
    If you saw my impression on last update, you could see that I was extremely disapointed, and that I switched to GB immediately. This time, even I still think that GB is much more functional, I think this update is worth keeping, for anyone who wants to have a fresh and up-to-date software. You will have a little bit choppier experience compared to GB, but tolerably functional and fresh software.
    It is your choice...

    Note: DO NOT update OfficeSuite app, as you will be offered to do so immediately after the first Play Store launch, along with other 7 apps. The other ones you can update as you wish, but for some reason, when you update OfficeSuite, the system starts to hang terribly. Maybe it's something individual, but in my case it was like that.

    Cheers...
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    iridaki
    iridaki
    Guys, I've been reading all the reactions to the new ICS update and, I have to say, I am a bit puzzled.

    Here is why:

    Almost every Arc (LT15) owner went ahead and flashed the update.

    Now, just because your phones did not explode, it doesn't mean that it is OK that you flashed a firmware released for another model.

    Sure, Arc and Arc S look very much alike on paper, but if they were exactly the same phone, they would also share the name, thus there wouldn't be an Arc S.

    Furthermore, if the ICS update for the Arc S was suitable for the Arc too, why wouldn't Sony just say so, instead of having to deal with a flood of complaints from impatient Arc owners? And it is not like "they do it for marketing purposes because they want to sell their newest models", as by now all 2011 models are considered more or less 'out of date'.

    So, what I am trying to say is that while admittedly there are bugs in the new ICS firmware (I've came across some myself), it is impossible to keep track of them since Arc owners are spamming the threads. I mean no offence to anyone, but this situation going on helps nobody in the end.

    My suggestion is, someone open a new thread about ICS on LT15, where it would be easier to discuss on the bugs and shortcomings and just leave the rest of the discussions to the LT18 owners. After all, the official Arc update is just around the corner. And this place is enough of a mess as is. Let's try to make it a little tidier, for everyone's sake. :)

    Just my 2 cents.
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    hackdima
    hackdima
    videocamera is l lilbit laggy
    soundquality in videocamera is very low!
    battery drains fast!
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    iridaki
    iridaki
    Dark Fable said:
    I have an Arc S and I do face the problems in Temple Run and other games as mentioned in the previous posts.
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    Bear in mind that due to the massive changes ICS introduced to Android,
    there are still many, many apps that are not fully optimised.
    I keep reading about people facing problems in Temple Run, but, for example, the games I play (Angry Birds, Cut The Rope, Dream Heights, etc) work just fine.
    On the other hand Sygic Navigation, while it works, has many graphical glitches and the developers have already announced that they'll be updating it to accomodate the new Android version.
    So, has any of the gazillion people complaining about Temple Run contacted the developer to get a definite answer on whether there are known problems with ICS devices?
    I swear if I see another Temple Run bug post, I'm going to SNAP like a twig, like a twig! :D :D :D :p
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