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luigi90210

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OK what about the Defy, same amount of ram same kernel version.... any explanation there ?

its a maybe, the defy might be easier to port over(defy is closer to droid x than nook) but its still different hardware(processors are different) so it could handle GPU acceleration differently plus i believe they are using the HW acceleration hack like we are. ill look into the source code for the defy ics and see what i can pull out but to be honest i dont think it will help any, its like the dalingrin said, we have hardware acceleration but not complete hardware acceleration due to hardware restrictions

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im not deving for the nook but ill contribute what i can, more or less im looking into this cause it could help out the droid x ics port more than the nook
 
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he explained why in his post, the nook doesnt have the memory to handle it, and even if it did at the moment the nook doesnt run the same kernel version as the optimus black

idk why people are obsessing about the optimus black though, it has nothing to do with the nook color even if it has similar hardware(i use similar because there are A LOT of differences between the 2 the main one being processor) and even if they were compatible the drivers for the optimus black wouldnt work on our nooks because the optimus black runs a newer kernel than the nook

I'm not obsessing about the optimus black , I just don't get why he said the HARDWARE can't handle it - cuz it seems it can ( not disrespecting , just asking )
As I said even the Adreno 200 running pretty damn good ( see the HD2 port ) and it's less powerful than the SGX530
The drivers part I understand , and hopefully the 1.4 update B&N will bring us updated drivers to handle & 2.6.35 kernel

Also , as I and a few mentioned Defy also got ICS running with HW accel.
Here is the GIT if anyone wants to dig in :)
 
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dalingrin

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OK so I am gonna apologize before I even start.
And yes I am very apreciative to all the things that our devs have achieved so far but...

Have you been around the Defy forum lately they are on ICS nightlies already with full h/w ui and other nice goodies and thats an OMAP 3610 device with SGX530 on .32 kernel.

Why can't we......

Pavlos

OK what about the Defy, same amount of ram same kernel version.... any explanation there ?

Sure: finals at school, real life obligations, I have real work to do, I have other devices that I work on, I have other hobbies, I have family I visit during the holidays...etc

Feel free to get it done yourself though. I don't even use the Nook Color anymore but I'm trying to get ICS for you guys. I would love for someone else to do it so I don't have to worry about it.


Can you explain why?
Adreno 200 seems to be doing fine ( pretty smooth )
SGX530 is better , and also the posted videos of the Optimus Black ( being worked by Ricardo Cerqueira ) shows perfectly smooth UI


Also , I guess it's a little early to ask but does USB-HOST currently works on ICS? or modifications needed for that too?

Thanks for all the hard work you guys put into this , you are incredible :D



I think the new driver will be able to give us true Multi-Touch ( more than 2 fingers ) , but I guess that should be concerned on a later date


OT :
CM9 UPDATE - http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update


Run your favorite game with old drivers, 2x the resolution, and decrease your memory bandwidth. Let me know how it affects the framerate.

In order to get Opera Mobile more fluid I have to run @ 16bit color. Thats an indication that we are already bottlenecked with just a single application, otherwise it would not affect the framerate. Now, note that the overhead associated with Opera Mobile pales in comparison to full UI accel in ICS. Not only do you have to accelerated multiple bits of the UI but you have to composite them afterwards.
 

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Actually no it doesn't. Most phones are hdpi whereas the nook color is mdpi. The screen may be larger but the pixel density is less.

Sent from my NookColor using XDA Premium App

Regardless of the pixel density, it's still physically more pixels to push than in a WVGA screen (that's the way I see it, maybe I'm wrong).

Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
 

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Actually no it doesn't. Most phones are hdpi whereas the nook color is mdpi. The screen may be larger but the pixel density is less.

Sent from my NookColor using XDA Premium App

No, the Nook Color has to process nearly 2x the number of pixels than phones.
1024x600 = 614400 pixels
Versus: 800x400 = 320000 pixels
614400 / 320000 = 1.92
Meaning the Nook Color has 1.92x the number of pixels.

LCD density is just a resolution independence abstraction for Android. It is meaningless to the GPU.
 
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I don't even use the Nook Color anymore but I'm trying to get ICS for you guys.

Dalingrin, just curious, are you no longer using the nook color because you also have the touchpad or did you get rid of it?

And thank you for continuing to work on the NC and ICS. The NC community would be close to dead without you.
 

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Dal... I know u hear it alot but I like MOST, are greatful for the work u churn out and the time u put into it when u can. I don't use my NC either anymore, TP instead. I'm itching for anything with ics though so I wait patiently. I don't think its a secret that of everyone here, you and maybe two others are the only ones known to be capable of actually making it happen. Thanks.

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Sure: finals at school, real life obligations, I have real work to do, I have other devices that I work on, I have other hobbies, I have family I visit during the holidays...etc

Feel free to get it done yourself though. I don't even use the Nook Color anymore but I'm trying to get ICS for you guys. I would love for someone else to do it so I don't have to worry about it.

If I knew how to do this I would take over for you. Otherwise, thank you for trying to do this for us. It is really appreciated.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!:)
 

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Thankyou dalingrin for the amount of work you have put into the nook color.It truly is outstanding and has made, and continues to make the nook color 10x the device it was supposed to be. I truly appreciate it:D
 

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No, the Nook Color has to process nearly 2x the number of pixels than phones.
1024x600 = 614400 pixels
Versus: 800x400 = 320000 pixels
614400 / 320000 = 1.92
Meaning the Nook Color has 1.92x the number of pixels.

LCD density is just a resolution independence abstraction for Android. It is meaningless to the GPU.

Don't waste your time arguing with people who thinks they know something when you are the one the getting the job done. Even if you drop the Nook Color, I still appreciate your job cause you try. I didn't wanna buy another tablet since I love my Nook Color but I guess I'll just buy a new tablet. In my opinion the Nook Color has a lot of potencial and stil capable of a lot of things, I think is even better than that touchpad in so many ways but thats just me, I wish I knew how to DEV a little. Oh well, my hopes are not lost I hope someone come and get ICS ported into the Nook Color. Best wishes !!!

-Jorge
 

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Thankyou dalingrin for the amount of work you have put into the nook color.It truly is outstanding and has made, and continues to make the nook color 10x the device it was supposed to be. I truly appreciate it:D

Couldn't have said it better myself. I really appreciate all the work you and the CM team has put in. Thank you!

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Feel free to get it done yourself though. I don't even use the Nook Color anymore but I'm trying to get ICS for you guys. I would love for someone else to do it so I don't have to worry about it.
Firstly, thank you very much for all the Android thing you've been doing to the Optimus V and the Nook Color.
Secondly, if anybody can show me how to do dalingrin's work once, I think I can take over dalingrin's work for the Nook Color.
A little bit about me: I know a little bit about Linux, I can do some shell programming but don't know much about the boot process. My Java knowledge is bad (but not very bad, I think, because I have been doing Java programming for a living for more than 6 years).
 
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    This thread is meant for discussion of the in progress Kit Kat port for the Nook Color.

    Updates
    If you want updates on the progress you can check this post and fattire's post immediately folllowing this. We'll both be posting updates periodically here.

    You can also follow me on twitter @dalingrin
    You can follow fattire @ fat__tire
    Please don't ask me for ETAs or status updates. I will post them as I post them :cool:

    Source code
    Device source code will be temporarily hosted on fattire's github @ http://github.com/fat-tire/android_device_bn_encore

    Things to expect
    Nothing :eek:

    Things not to expect(for now)
    *Fully accelerated composition of the UI - this is not likely and may be dependent on 3rd party closed source EGL libs getting updated
    *Accelerated video playback and overlay - This has changed quite a bit and may take some time to get working
    *Polished release soon - Don't ask, don't tell​


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    UPDATE 11/24/13 -- So CM 11.0 is out and building nicely on Nook Color. Look here for the link to the build instructions. If you are building CM 11, you will probably want to use cm-11.0 as the name of the branch when initializing.



    STATE OF THE UM, STATE OF THINGS


    So I was curious how many noob types, who always beg for nightlies and builds and stuff-- I wondered if they (you?) could be encouraged to learn and get involved in the process of building Android. Which, as I've expressed in an infamous ramble, I think is important to the future of our culture and how it it deals with technology-- and who will control it. So I asked normal non-dev people to try building-- to give it a shot.

    I think the experiment, which quickly became OUR experiment, has been a massive success. Far beyond what I'd imagined. Hundreds of people have gotten off their asses-- many of whom had clearly never touched Linux or a compiler before, and most were successful in building CM9/ICS from scratch.

    That is not a small deal. And no, it's not just following a list of instructions by rote. People had to think about and solve a million different problems-- installing VMs, updating packages, choosing linux distributions, understanding the command line, etc. Scary stuff if you've never done any of these things before.

    So it's been a month or so now, and I think we've reached the stage where aside from minor enhancements and fixes, the build looks pretty sweet. The major stuff is there and working. Yeah, DSP/hardware-accelerated video is something we're going to have to wait for TI to add to their omap3 repositories, and there are likely other things wrong. I've heard rumors of sleep-of-deaths or quicker-than-usual battery consumption, etc. There are numerous things to be fixed, but these are all issues that may or may not be worked out over time... As major new enhancements come to the CyanogenMod project, they will come to the encore version, and your build, automatically.

    No secret links this time. As before, I'll spell out the bottom line explicitly for ya here in the middle somewhere. And I'll even underline it.

    I hereby decree, in so far I am able, my humble request for "no posted builds".... is ended.

    Back to your regularly scheduled forum. Go to it.

    I encourage you to pass any valuable improvements you make to the code "upstream" via the gerrit review system at review.cyanogenmod.com for inclusion in the main CM project. You already know how it works. And some, God love ya, have already started. Not everything you submit will get accepted, but it's a good way to "pay it forward". And in the same vein, consider helping someone on IRC. Or be a big brother or big sister. Or donate blood. And to quote Steven Soderbergh, or whomever, you don't have to brush ALL your teeth, just the ones you want to keep.

    Thanks as always to dalingrin, keyodi, nemith, verygreen, arcee, deeper-blue, unforgiven512, the gang on irc, and the CM Team generally for keeping this fun. And thank YOU for the lulz, Internet.

    ft

    Remember, there's NOTHING quite like running your own build, piping-hot, and fresh from the oven.



    ----

    I am also releasing a first pass at a how-to-build walkthrough. It is available here:

    walkthru (rough draft)

    This doc will be updated and evolve with your input. It is meant to help people feel confident that they can build an operating system from scratch, and hopefully encourage them to participate, learn, and even make contributions.

    If you need assistance, you must rely on each other.

    Here is an equally unreliable clockworkmod, v5.5.0.4:

    uRecRam

    You may be asking, where is the issue queue? There is no issue queue. You are on your own here.

    Recent automated builds (unofficial, unsanctioned, untested, uneverything else) from Forum member Samiam303 is here.

    -----------everything below this line is sorta old and outdated--------------

    So there's apparently been some bit of controversy related to my request that people try to build themselves rather than someone posting a pre-made update.zip file. Let me go more into detail about what this experiment is about, at least from my perspective. But first, I do want to thank everyone for respecting the request so far-- I know it's not the traditional way of doing things, but I think it's been very fruitful and personally rewarding to see so many people who have never built jack before take on a project like this and be successful. I've received an enormous number of messages, both PMs here as well as in IRC, to the effect that this finally got them to try to build for the first time. It's introduced many people to actually using Linux, others may be having their first encounters with the command line, or git, or looking at source code, or learning about the build process in general. Whether or not the majority go on to become "devs" is irrelevant-- what I have been trying to encourage is curiosity and experimentation, and most of all a deeper understanding that your phones and "ereaders" are in fact full-fledged computers, not "appliances" or limited-purpose devices that others get to control. It's your property, and it can do a lot. There is an effort underway to discourage people from thinking of their devices this way or discouraging them from experimenting and learning with them. This IMO is an extremely harmful practice-- take a look at Cory Doctorow's recent speech on this subject. I could go on and on, but it seems important enough to me to make this request, and hopefully some of you are even subconsciously appreciating the awesomeness of what potential these general-purpose gadgets will have on society. So that's a lot of philosophizing, but there you go. And while I'm not naive enough to think that plenty of people aren't trading the file "under the table" at it were, for a variety of reasons, I do think that in a way they're cheating themselves; those who give building a shot are finding that learning is a reward unto itself. Those who are persistent, who pay attention, who don't give up, not only get a build at the end, plus the experience of doing it, plus the knowledge they picked up along the way-- they also discover things in the most unexpected of places, as in the link in the period at the end of the third sentence in this post. And while there's been some discussion of what a "dev" is and whether or not this is a gateway to bigger and better things, all I can assume is that if 5-10% of the people who built are intrigued enough to take it a step further, and maybe a step further than that... then we might end up with some new devs who appreciate the value of open source and whose contributions we can look forward to with eagerness in the future. Plus-- it's more fun this way.

    I do hope this sounds good to everyone. If you understand what this post is about- no need for long, drawn-out elaborate responses... a simple "I got it" will do. ;)

    More source is forthcoming... Thanks to dalingrin, arcee, keyodi, nemith, Scepterr, unforgiven512, etc. Oh, and shh.

    --------------------------

    update-cm-9.0-0-encore-emmc-sneakpeek2-fullofbugs.zip
    md5: 536d589c59ea5711a17a3d976f0638fa


    update-cm-9.0-0-encore-emmc-sneakpeek1-fullofbugs.zip
    md5: 85294ad91e2601beb737cf723b9fb9d6
    (note this URL is likely to change)

    Note: You are advised NOT to try to install this. This update.zip will **overwrite** as in erase whatever data you have on your emmc, so if you are trying this, you are advised to back it up first so you can recover. Install entirely at your own risk, and do a factory wipe first. This software is likely to be terrible and cause problems including permanent data loss, hair loss, and/or the destruction of your property and the death of your pets. You assume all risks involved in your use-- or even attempted use-- of this file. I disclaim any and all responsibility for your decision to try it.

    *** Really. This build is buggy. It is a work-in-progress. It is only a snapshot of where things stand right now, and it's possible it'll never go further. ***

    here's what's working:

    * bluetooth (pairing/file transfer only confirmed)
    * wifi (full it seems but it's brand-new to the kernel so who knows how stable anything is)
    * backlight
    * accelerometer
    * improved stability (but not perfect)
    * gapps
    * setcpu/overclock
    * real data usage info (not stubbed out)
    * battery levels/charging
    * physical menu button
    * touchscreen
    * 3d games
    * usb gadget in kernel (ie, mounting your sdcard to your computer)
    * screenshots
    * build system (to auto-create update.zips)
    * sound


    (note: for all the above features, you must build yourself! See below for rationale & more)

    For sure not working yet:

    * video
    * full 2d acceleration (esp on complex web pages)
    * and much much more

    These things may/may not be added at some point in the future. You should have no expectations that they will. Anyone who asks for an ETA for something or other gets collectively stoned by the crowd.

    I'm sometimes on #nookcolor in freenode.

    Thanks to keyodi, unforgiven512, arcee, toastfch, d0nk`, dalingrin, nemith, the rest of the cm team/TD, and anyone else who I've forgotten. We stand on the shoulders of giants.

    MUST READ:
    Again, don't install this. And please don't "rom" this (as in change the font or background) and then ask for donations for your "hard work". This is a preview of a work in progress, not a final product, and it's not meant for people to use day-to-day. Don't be a ****. Thanks.
    --------------------screenshots---------------------

    ncicsss1.png


    About screen, wifi scanning, & bluetooth....
    icsnc.jpg
    icsncwifi1.jpg
    icsncbt.jpg


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    ncicsss.png
    icsnc5.jpg
    icsnc6.jpg

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    Some thoughts...

    So there's apparently been some bit of controversy related to my request that people try to build themselves rather than someone posting a pre-made update.zip file. Let me go more into detail about what this experiment is about, at least from my perspective. But first, I do want to thank everyone for respecting the request so far-- I know it's not the traditional way of doing things, but I think it's been very fruitful and personally rewarding to see so many people who have never built jack before take on a project like this and be successful. I've received an enormous number of messages, both PMs here as well as in IRC, to the effect that this finally got them to try to build for the first time. It's introduced many people to actually using Linux, others may be having their first encounters with the command line, or git, or looking at source code, or learning about the build process in general. Whether or not the majority go on to become "devs" is irrelevant-- what I have been trying to encourage is curiosity and experimentation, and most of all a deeper understanding that your phones and "ereaders" are in fact full-fledged computers, not "appliances" or limited-purpose devices that others get to control. It's your property, and it can do a lot. There is an effort underway to discourage people from thinking of their devices this way or discouraging them from experimenting and learning with them. This IMO is an extremely harmful practice-- take a look at Cory Doctorow's recent speech on this subject. I could go on and on, but it seems important enough to me to make this request, and hopefully some of you are even subconsciously appreciating the awesomeness of what potential these general-purpose gadgets will have on society. So that's a lot of philosophizing, but there you go. And while I'm not naive enough to think that plenty of people aren't trading the file "under the table" at it were, for a variety of reasons, I do think that in a way they're cheating themselves; those who give building a shot are finding that learning is a reward unto itself. Those who are persistent, who pay attention, who don't give up, not only get a build at the end, plus the experience of doing it, plus the knowledge they picked up along the way-- they also discover things in the most unexpected of places, as in the link in the period at the end of the third sentence in this post. And while there's been some discussion of what a "dev" is and whether or not this is a gateway to bigger and better things, all I can assume is that if 5-10% of the people who built are intrigued enough to take it a step further, and maybe a step further than that... then we might end up with some new devs who appreciate the value of open source and whose contributions we can look forward to with eagerness in the future. Plus-- it's more fun this way.

    I do hope this sounds good to everyone. If you understand what this post is about- no need for long, drawn-out elaborate responses... a simple "I got it" will do. ;)

    More source is forthcoming... Thanks to dalingrin, arcee, keyodi, nemith, Scepterr, unforgiven512, etc. Oh, and shh.
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    Some good stuff...

    fattire/dalingrin: aren't the new EGL libs from the defy very good news?

    Not especially. We've had egl working on nook for about two weeks now. It just hasn't been public. The changes are pushed to frameworks/base now, and the defy is just using the flag(s). The code in questoin, by arcee I believe, was pushed up yesterday, which means everyone else will get the fast blue stuff seen in the screenshots. I tested it and some other stability stuff today, and I'm pushing it tonight/this morning. Anyone building now should notice a difference. The sacrifice for stability is a loss of some accelerated 2d graphics... but trust me, this is the best combo so far, and that other stuff can come later.

    The big effort the last two days has been w/the kernel. After MANY hours of f'ing up, I finally got the appropriate netfilter working in 2.6.32 which means I can finally finish stuff like this:

    icsnc11.jpg


    That's a 1543 fwiw. I'm guessing it can do better. But whatever.

    Gapps works too. Like Maps...

    icsnc12.jpg


    Gmail (with multiple panes/fragments)...

    icsnc7.jpg


    Market...

    icsnc10.jpg


    And the tablet apps install directly to the tablet from the web market. No questions or difficulty...

    icsnc8.jpg


    icsnc9.jpg



    Neat. So here's what's working:

    * bluetooth (only pairing is confirmed)
    * wifi (full it seems but it's brand-new to the kernel so who knows how stable anything is)
    * backlight
    * accelerometer
    * improved stability (but not perfect)
    * gapps
    * setcpu/overclock
    * real data usage info (not stubbed out)
    * battery levels/charging
    * physical menu button


    Not working yet:

    * sound (dalingrin's gonna start this I think. Arcee has code to support legacy drivers I believe.)
    * video
    * full 2d acceleration (esp on complex web pages)
    * usb gadget (which means screenshots too I think)
    * build system (to auto-create upgrade.zips)

    I'm pushing up most of what I have at the moment, including the test kernel-- I'll try to check that in tomorrow but it's a mess. It's been an all-night effort, so I'm sure stuff that I think works great will turn out to be a total dud when people actually try it.

    I also wrote up a "how to build" walk-thru a couple days ago. But it'll need to be updated.

    Still, not bad.
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    New Kernel

    Well, we decided to push the 2.6.32.59 kernel and wifi module into the repo. So, eyeballer's and Samiam303's builds should have the latest kernel by tomorrow.

    What's Fixed
    • keyboard layout issues and key sizes
    • Wifi module preventing sleep and pinning cpu at max
    • wifi SOD - we'll see

    What's New
    • PVR drivers backported from the omap3-3 kernel. *non-opengl versions may notice increased 3d scores in benchmarking. No noticeable improvement in opengl builds