[HARDWARE FAULT] WiFi antenna fault. HTC One X [22.04.2013]

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Vitucastro

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So I'm guessing the GPS issue is with the connectors and antennas also!!! Gotta figure it out where is it!
 

bigoliver

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Thanks Bigoliver. I can confirm I have this issue too. My phone wasn't like this when I got it, but it seems to have developed the problem over the last month or so (maybe the constant heating and cooling these phones go though has caused this??).

I have found that applying a very slight twisting motion when holding the top and bottom of the phone between both hands must separate the wifi contacts and my signal drops off and often disconnects. A small squeeze and wifi signal increases.

Now... What to do..... (unlocked through HTC)

Edit- Mines a HT23

Edit 2 - rough video added;


Great video, really shows the problem we face.
Im adding this to the first post right now.

Many thanks
 

Fruktsallad

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ARGH! I've got it too

I had excellent wifi-reception for the first few weeks, then it suddenly became awful a week ago. Thought it was down to firmware/kernel issues.

Pushing the spot gets from no wifi reception to full reception. Releasing again loses the connection almost instantly.

The dread of sending the phone in and having to wait for weeks before HTC tells me whether they fixed it or not (which I of course will have to insist on, since it's a hardware issue no matter how much I've used HTCdev) will probably result in me living with bad coverage for a instead. :mad:
 
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bigoliver

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Godamned ... its the same for me here, didn't have it for about a month, then it started ... I thought it was caused by the new firmware as it appeared right after flashing it... now I see it isn't caused by that .... I did drop my hox a couple of times by accident... I'm glad I have an all inclu insurance ;D

Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

You shouldn't need insurance, I believe this must be a manufacturing fault and therefore should be repaired under warranty.

The problem is too wide spread to be caused by dropping, but, that would't help an already dodgy connection lol
 

bigoliver

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Hello Bigoliver
Thank s a lot for the tread ...i follow the steps for open and repair ...
Now my the wifi on my one x reborn...
really really thank s again

you was extremly right

i diceded to repair myself because my phone is unlock and no time for waiting for the repair phone....make it at your own risk

Thanks for you feedback, glad you managed to fix your wifi.
 

bigoliver

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I have an H25 model and I got the issue too. But I haven´t had problems with it since if I hold it in my hand, my hand is not covering the area between the camera lens and the volume buttons.

Are you sure this is the same issue we are talking about?

If we press the area our wifi reception gets much better, not worst.
Your problem sounds like a kind of death grip where the hand blocks the wifi signal
 

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Same here! Cool - one press and everything seems to be ok again....

I guess there is a higher power consumption with low signal? So maybe this solution will safe some power?
 

bigoliver

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Man..you discovered the grip of death .. ! For.me i have full signal.. when i press tje upper right corner wifi signal just.. disapears!!

I can shoot a video if someone wants to see it.. its fast and instant! Should i worry to much?

Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I think this is a separate issue, our issue is the other way round.
We have little or no signal and when we press the corner we get a full strong signal.
 

wph

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I have the same problem ( HK phone ) and its very clear when using a BT headset, just placing my hand over that area and the music stops...

This issue is often forgotten, but since it is the same chip and antenna, everyone with the WiFi problem has this issue. I have 2 Bluetooth headsets and both don't work properly. As soon as I put my phone in my pocket the reception is terrible. The only difference is that WiFi is used a lot more, so it is much more annoying.
 

chrishull85

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I have the opposite issue if I touch the top right corner my WiFi signal almost completely drops :( not so much of a biggie but still very annoying

Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
 

dusturn

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Same issue here, a grey H24 sold in Berlin, Germany: first week good wifi reception, then intermittent (sometimes 4 bars, then quickly one, and sometines turning off). I also confirm the pressing corner work around... And I never dropped my phone!

Veeery annoying, mostly because of the uncertainty if the warranty will proporly consider it. It would be nice to ear some feedback from people who took it already to repair, if they come out with stuppid excuses or so... My felling is that this will be too bad for the brand that they will actually solve it through repair.

Hardware fail in a flagship device? Quite a huge mistake, HTC...
 
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PurpleRob

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Mine is the same

It had excellent reception for about 3 weeks and now I barely get 1 bar, until I press the screen and then I get maximum reception again.

I'm wondering if it may have something to do with the temperatures at which the phone runs at I.e. when I'm playing games it frequently runs at 50°c maybe something may have come unstuck due to this.

Rob
 

wph

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Same issue here, a grey H24 sold in Berlin, Germany: first week good wifi reception, then intermittent (sometimes 4 bars, then quickly one, and sometines turning off). I also confirm the pressing corner work around... And I never dropped my phone!

Veeery annoying, mostly because of the uncertainty if the warranty will proporly consider it. It would be nice to ear some feedback from people who took it already to repair, if they come out with stuppid excuses or so... My felling is that this will be too bad for the brand that they will actually solve it through repair.

Hardware fail in a flagship device? Quite a huge mistake, HTC...

I sent my phone in for repair last week. Didn't know what exactly caused the problem then, but I send a letter with an explanation what was wrong and photo's comparing the WiFi signal reception on the One X vs. my old HTC Desire with it. Got it back yesterday. Unrepaired, they couldn't find any symptoms they said.

---------- Post added at 11:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:55 PM ----------

Yes, I think. I heard the screen is set in place using a soft glue that breaks when the screen is removed voiding your warranty.

But then my question is, how can they check that if they need to open it themselves?
 

Hunt3r.j2

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The simplest answer is just to send your phone in for warranty repairs until it is absolutely flawless.

HTC screwed up the design, they should pay for it until they fix it.
 

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    Welcome,

    There is a number of threads here about general WiFi problems on the HTC One X (HOX)
    However, this thread is specifically for the confirmed (by the community & unfortunately me) (and finally HTC since 18.06.2012) hardware fault of a loose connection on the WiFi antenna.

    If you are suffering from a really bad WiFi or Bluetooth connection and think you may have this hardware fault, there is a simple test you can do. Please only do this test if you are sure you could have the problem, PillipL explains why here

    Update 30.08.2012 After a member reported he damaged his phone by repeatedly doing the squeeze test, I want to state again that you should ONLY squeeze if you are sure you could have the fault, please do this as a last resort and only squeeze the phone gently. I think a mobile phone should with stand a gentle squeeze and if it does damage the antenna I am sure it was only going to be a matter of time before you would have developed the fault anyway. Do this test your own risk! To read the report of the squeeze test damaging a phone click here

    The squeeze test

    Read this whole post carefully before beginning, then gently squeeze the side back of your phone, between the camera lens and the volume rocker. If your WiFi signal strength improves only to drop back down when you stop squeezing, then you have this seemingly common fault.

    If your WiFi doesnt improve or gets worse whilst squeezing, this is normal and you don't have this fault. Please don't keep repeating this test as it is commonly accepted that this will accelerate the issue.

    Important Update (17.07.2012) We now have the full official HTC test and fix procedures with pictures, see here and also in pdf (thanks to lawrence750), click here to download. Important Update 30.08.2012 - We now have the full parts list needed to carry out the official repair, see HERE

    Video demonstrations of the issue

    Thanks to our members everywhere, we have 13 excellent videos demonstrating the issue.


    Video 2 - Video 3 - Video 4 - Video 5 - Video 6 - Video 7 - Video 8 - Video 9 - Video 10 - Video 11 - Video 12 - Video 13 (o2 repair FAIL!)

    What to do now?

    Ok, so if you don't have the fault, that is good news and I hope you can fix your different problem with a software update or router reset. Search this forum for some of the other wifi threads as this one is not for you.

    If you do have the fault, I recommend you declare your phone DOA (Dead On Arrival) and exchange your phone for another. In the UK, you can do this within 28 days of the date of the purchase (so I believe).

    If you fall outside of the DOA exchange period, then send your phone back for repair and hope they fix the issue or replace the phone without too much delay.

    If you have unlocked your phone and are worried that you may not be covered by the warranty, you have a few options.

    Update 22.06.2012 Read Urban Strata's (Official HTC Rep) advice here

    1. Re-lock your phone and make sure you are running your stock rom.

    If unsure how to do this, follow this guide HERE or watch the video HERE

    Then return your phone and hope that they don't notice/blame the issue on you unlocking your boot loader.

    The Law (in NL)

    Read Quistnix advice here

    The Law (in UK)

    This is obviously a manufacturer's fault and if you are based in the UK, the law is definitely on your side (see the quote from Citizens Advice Bureaux below)
    Citizens Advice Bureaux said:
    If you bought goods six months ago or less and there's something wrong with them, the trader should accept that there was something wrong at the time of sale. Unless it’s really obvious you caused the problem yourself, the trader should offer to put things right. In practice, this usually means repairing or replacing the goods. If the trader doesn't accept that there was something wrong with the goods when you bought them, they will have to prove this. (Source)
    I put the key points in BOLD :)

    For further advice on your rights in the UK and sample letters, read this post here.

    Returning your phone my guides

    Want a repair, replacement or refund? Try my guide here.

    Should you return to the seller or HTC? Guide here

    How to package and post your HOX, guide here

    2. Fix it yourself

    If you are brave/crazy enough, you could try to fix it yourself and people have successfully managed this. I DO NOT recommend this, but if you want to do it anyhow, here is my guide based on the feedback in this thread.

    Many people reading this thread have asked for a guide on fixing the WiFi issue themselves. If you do decide to go down this route, please take step by step photos and explain how you did it on this thread and I'm sure you'll get loads of thanks for it.

    Guides and tips how to self repair this problem...

    I have not taken my HOX apart, however, based on user guides, I would probably do it like this...
    (WARNING: This could seriously damage your phone, I do not recommend it and I'm not prepared to do it myself)

    Before you start, read all the guides and PillipL post here

    1. Remove the Sim and Sim-Tray
    2. Tape up the power and volume buttons, to save time fiddling with putting them back in afterwards.
    3. Out of the recommended methods to open your phone below, I would prefer to use my finger nail and or a guitar plectrum as I imagine this to be the best way to avoid scratches and damaging the case/screen. BE CAREFUL not to push the tool used too far inside the phone as this will cause damage.
    4 I would probably use a soldering iron to make a secure connection between the pins. I fear that just bending the pins up slightly might develop the same issue again later on.

    HTC's official repair guide* - Guide 1* - Guide 2 - Guide 3 - Guide 4 - Guide 5 - Guide 6* - Guide 7* - Guide 8 - Guide 9 - Guide 10 - Guide 11* - Guide 12 - Guide 13 - Guide 14* Guide 15* - Guide 16 - Guide 17 - Guide 18 - Guide 19 - Guide 20 - Guide 21

    (*Guides with pictures) (Latest guide (10.07.2012) 15* has many detailed pics, well worth a read)

    If you do try to fix the antenna yourself, please leave us feedback.

    Update 06.07,2012 Leaked details of the official fix here & picture here

    Video guide - How to fix the antenna yourself

    Big thanks to JikaxDev for this excellent video guide


    Video Guide 2 - Video Guide 3 - Video Guide 4 - Funny, but, the guy who made the video is serious I think :) )

    Member's recommended tools for opening your HOX

    If you are brave enough to open your HOX, I have heard that the fix only takes around 15 mins (but, please don't rush) Here are some of the ways our members opened their HOX's...

    *Using a guitar plectrum (not sure which size is best, I would try a few)
    *Using only your finger nail (assuming they are long/strong enough)
    *With an automobile spark plugs gauge sheet using the 9mm
    *Using a car dent puller!? (sticking it to the screen and just popping it out)
    *Using a Coke can top ( the aluminium bit that get thrown away, see Video Guide 3 )

    I have not tried any of the above, but I will continue to update with the latest techniques as I hear about them.

    Did you open your HOX a different way? We would love to hear from you

    Temporary fix

    A temporary fix first posted by Gibeon, is to
    Gibeon said:
    take a piece of paper, fold it 4 times and stick it on the back of your phone. Pop it in your case and there's your easy, dirty fix until HTC admits the problem.
    They are other versions of this fix floating around, using coins or tape and various other items stuck in a case to constantly compress the phone.
    I do not recommend this temporary fix, here's why, the fault is caused by the antenna pins getting squashed down, if you squash the phone further your phone may improve but over time will get even worse and the fix will require even more compression, ultimately the fix will stop working.

    BE VOCAL, make sure HTC can hear you

    You can contact HTC, on their (website here) (twitter page here) and (facebook page here)
    Linking back to this thread might help explain the problem. Also, it's probably worth sending this link with the description when returning the phone too.

    Let us know here, what feedback you get from HTC.

    Issues created by this problem

    1. Poor to useless WIFI (obviously)
    2. Poor to useless Bluetooth (as this uses the same antenna as WIFI)
    3. Battery drain (as your phone will need to work harder to maintain a connection)
    4. You will probably rely on 3g data more often, so your phone bills may increase

    Model/Serial Numbers

    According to HTC's statement (18.06.2012) here.
    HTC's statement (18.06.2012) said:
    we have taken immediate steps to implement a solution in our production process to prevent this issue from happening in the future.
    Meaning all serial numbers before this solution was implemented could develop the infamous WiFi antenna fault.

    To check your model number go to...
    Settings, About phone, Phone Identity. Alternatively, check the back of your phone's box.

    Mine is a grey model, Serial Number HT23W*******.

    For more infomation on what these serial numbers mean please read this helpful post here.

    Possible causes

    So far, (07.06.12) we are still unsure what the cause of this problem is, or how it can be avoided, however that has not stopped us speculating...

    1. Poor QC allowing faulty devices to be shipped.
    2. Phone getting warm and misshaping the internal parts and/or more likely the uni-body preventing the pins connecting with the antenna. (Using a silicon case is one theory for causing overheating)
    3. Phone getting squashed in your pocket/bag/hand and the contacts getting bent downwards preventing a connection.
    4. PillipL has came up with IMO the most likely explanation for the issue below..
    PhillipL said:
    Two problems with the lugs I can see, the first is the polycarbonate case is giving slightly, and the lugs don't spring up to maintain the same contact pressure.

    Second, anything depressing the back of the case (phone in pocket for example) is causing the lugs to bend down slightly, and as they are not springs they will not necessarily return back when the pressure is gone, hence testing for the problem could cause it. If the phone is kept in a pocket and the case is flexing even only slightly then the lug and contact pad might be moving against each other, even a tiny microscopic movement repeated for each step the owner takes would soon wear away the gold plating on the connections causing a less than stellar connection. (Source)
    More details about PhillipL's design flaw theory along with detailed pictures here.

    In the MEDIA


    This issue and thread appears in news articles all over the web, it was also the main feature on xdaTV (above)

    Media links since this thread started (03.06.2012 - 17.06.2012)

    XDA-Developers - Nexus Lab - Android Authority 11.06.12 - Android Police - Recombu - Android Guys - Nu.nl - Android Spin - Pocket Gamer - Reg Hardware - Android Authority 13.06.12 - Phones Review - 3g - Mobile Indian - Mobile Syrup - Device Magazine - IDG.se - WebmasterPoint - Social Barrel - Think Digit - Telegraaf - Tech2 - Money Control - IBN Live - Pocket Now - Yahoo News

    Media links since HTC's statement acknowledging fault (18.06.2012 and onwards)

    The Verve - TechCrunch - Android Police - Android Community - Nu.nl - Gadget Helpline - HTCPedia - Android Central - TechRadar - Phone Arena - Talk Android - Phones Review - cnet - Recombu - Device Magazine - The Inquisitr - NDTV - The Christian Post - TechDigest - Stuff - Stuff (Printed magazine)

    Many users suffering from this issue are contacting the media and Watchdog. Watchdog is excellent at getting this kind of issue resolved. The more people that contact them the more likely they will investigate the issue, make sure you link back to this thread when reporting the issue to them.

    BBC Watchdog link here

    Note to media: This is a different issue to the grip of death, it is the other way round. You need to grip your phone in a certain place to get a signal. This fault is being referred to as, the "Reverse Death Grip" and "Grip of Life".

    Media enquires, please email me ostones@gmail.com


    Statements from HTC
    Recombu (12.06.2012) said:
    HTC is committed to delivering a high quality product and great experience for all of our customers. We investigate all reported issues and if a hardware or software change is found to improve a customer experience, it will be deployed to all applicable devices according to our standard, required processes. We apologise for any inconvenience customers have experienced and appreciate your patience as we work quickly to investigate this issue. (Source)
    Android Police (18.06.2012) said:
    After investigating isolated reports of WiFi connectivity issues in the HTC One X, we have identified a fix that strengthens the area of the phone around the WiFi antennae connection points. While many customers have not experienced any problems with signal strength, we have taken immediate steps to implement a solution in our production process to prevent this issue from happening in the future. HTC is committed to making sure every customer has a great experience and we apologize for any inconvenience this issue may have caused while we conducted a thorough investigation. (Source)

    Repair horror stories

    Below is a list of members who have had experiences with HTC and/or the companies they bought the phones off, this section is intended to name and shame in the hope that these companies will improve customer services in the future, it is also intended to draw attention to the individual cases.

    I would like to make clear that we have had many success stories reported too and so far no one who has had the official fix implemented has complained the fault reoccurred. Personally I recommend that members suffering this WiFi fault return the phone to the seller and ask for a Repair, Replacement or Refund under the Sale of Goods Act (UK) (If within 6 months since purchase).

    bigoliver(now resolved) - Zulake(now resolved) - Henkjoost(ongoing & being charged 315.00 Euro's!! :eek: ) - wman2(now resolved) - gloscherrybomb (ongoing, repair centre broke his screen and now want to charge him £178) - PurpleRob (HTC's delivery company lost his 3 week old phone when returning it with this wifi issue, now they say they will only replace it with a referb made up in a repair centre) - dave@dkvinyls (Phone came back worse than before it was "repaired" currently (26th July 12) without a working phone for over 26 days, now they want him to send it back for repair again, HTC refusing to replace) - dalecook (is being given the run around between HTC and Dial-A-Phone Shame on them 24.08.2012)

    If you wish to be added to this list please write your own horror story in a post and kindly PM me the link, lets see if you can beat my story? (Please add evidence if possible ie screen shots, scanned letters, copies of emails etc)

    Finally

    Please let us know if you suffer from this loose antenna issue, and if you manage to get it solved.

    Together we are stronger, cheers,

    Oliver

    P.S. If this thread has helped you, please click the thanks button and/or rate the thread.

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    Hi guys,

    I work for HTC (see my profile). If you're experiencing this, kindly please PM me so we can analyze it. Our engineering teams in Taiwan have looked into it and have been unable to replicate it or determine a root cause, so your help would be appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Jeff
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    Hi

    Just a few things I've not seen mentioned.

    First of all in testing for this problem you may be helping to create it if you started out without any issue. The problem is the lugs that press against the antenna foil are not springs. If you depress them by testing, you will push the lug down, but it will not recover completely as a spring would, this causes a higher resistance connection.

    I think HTCs design flaw is the lugs, they should have been springs to keep an even pressure applied and give or take with the back cover, but this would make assembly difficult with the way the front has to be partly slipped into place as springs would catch and might miss their target completely.

    Two problems with the lugs I can see, the first is the polycarbonate case is giving slightly, and the lugs don't spring up to maintain the same contact pressure.

    Second, anything depressing the back of the case (phone in pocket for example) is causing the lugs to bend down slightly, and as they are not springs they will not necessarily return back when the pressure is gone, hence testing for the problem could cause it. If the phone is kept in a pocket and the case is flexing even only slightly then the lug and contact pad might be moving against each other, even a tiny microscopic movement repeated for each step the owner takes would soon wear away the gold plating on the connections causing a less than stellar connection.

    As we are talking about radio frequencies in the GHz range, it doesn't take much to make the contact appear as a high resistance if the pressure for the connection isn't maintain as designed.

    The fix by soldering a wire to connect the two points for those brave enough to do it could cause the Wi-Fi transmitter to burn out prematurely. Connecting the wire is lengthening the antenna causing a mismatch between the antenna and the transmitter, this can cause some of the transmitted power to be reflected back to the Wi-Fi transmitter as a standing wave, which might cause longer term problems.

    I suspect repairs that are working are simply the back removed, the antenna contact pins being bent back up and given a bit of a clean with Isopropyl alcohol for good measure before reassembly. This fix could be short lived if the conditions causing it haven't been addressed.

    Regards

    Phil
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    Peace

    A few people have joined this thread to defend HTC and the One X, which is fine, but please read on.

    This thread was never to intended to discredit or harm HTC or any of their phones, I just wanted to help anyone else in my situation. The problem was more widespread than I imagined and this thread has grown at an amazing rate (we have very near 100,000 views & 1,300 comments atm) I honestly expected a couple of dozen replies.

    HTC has apologise for the problem, they have a contact number which you can contact them directly to get your issues solved (I personaly have found them to be very helpful) and they have made steps to prevent this from happening to future models.

    Ok HTC maybe rushed the phone out to beat rivals, it maybe needed a little more beta testing. Anyone can make a mistake and in this case I feel HTC are genuinely trying to making it right again.

    I know your all angry about your phones, but people, please lets not insult this otherwise great phone or company.

    And to everyone who seems to denie this problem even exists because their phone is ok. This issue is real, I am not trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill, all these comments are real and they show the scale of the problem facing HTC. I would like to think this thread helped minimise this problem to just the first few months of production.

    I am sure this thread has done what I wanted it to and helped a lot of people, many more than I had expected. I am sure the information here will continue to help others and will continue to grow.

    Now people lets stop trying to discredit this thread, HTC or the One X and lets use this thread as I intended, to help each other with this issue.
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    HTC confirms One X Wi-Fi issue
    "After investigating isolated reports of Wi-Fi connectivity issues in the HTC One X, we have identified a fix that strengthens the area of the phone around the Wi-Fi antennae connection points."
    HTC went on to say, "While many customers have not experienced any problems with signal strength, we have taken immediate steps to implement a solution in our production process to prevent this issue from happening in the future.
    "HTC is committed to making sure every customer has a great experience and we apologise for any inconvenience this issue may have caused while we conducted a thorough investigation."
    So if you're about to purchase a HTC One X, but are concerned about the antenna problem then fear not, for the Taiwanese firm has addressed this issue at production level. However this doesn't help those who currently own a problematic handset.
    We got back in touch with HTC, asking what users with the issue can expect, and a spokesperson said: "HTC is asking anyone who is experiencing a Wi-Fi issue with their phone to contact our customer service team for help."
    They were unable to confirm if HTC would be offering free replacement handsets to affected users. If your HTC One X is experiencing this issue, let us know what HTC says to you on the phone.