[ROM] [AOSPA 4.2.2] [WIP] [BETA] [Paranoid Android 3.15] AT&T HTC One X+

maxwen · Apr 8, 2013

sirxdroid said:
How come the XL model didn't face the same problems?

while we where able to workaround some problems created from HTC for the international version by using HOX specific things.
This is not possible for the ATT version since there is no "comparable" ICS version of such a device

e.g. the voice audio issue is created by the fact that HTC does NOT provide JB
compatible audio drivers. On the international we are able to use the ICS
version from the HOX. But we are also not able to use the HTC provided ones

adamkaye · Apr 8, 2013

maxwen said:
while we where able to workaround some problems created from HTC for the international version by using HOX specific things.
This is not possible for the ATT version since there is no "comparable" ICS version of such a device

e.g. the voice audio issue is created by the fact that HTC does NOT provide JB
compatible audio drivers. On the international we are able to use the ICS
version from the HOX. But we are also not able to use the HTC provided ones

I pretty sure the AT&T original HOX got the JB update recently, no?

Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2

aardappel12 · Apr 8, 2013

adamkaye said:
I pretty sure the AT&T original HOX got the JB update recently, no?

Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2

I'm pretty sure the AT&T HOX+ already runs JB

But that's not the point, they can't get compatible audio drivers from HTC from the original JB rom to work with AOSP/AOKP/CM and such.. Correct me if I'm wrong

maxwen · Apr 8, 2013

aardappel12 said:
I'm pretty sure the AT&T HOX+ already runs JB

But that's not the point, they can't get compatible audio drivers from HTC from the original JB rom to work with AOSP/AOKP/CM and such.. Correct me if I'm wrong

no - you are right

so we MUST use ICS drivers which are not available for the ATT shizz

therefore this is a dead-end for voice-audio as far as ATT is concerned right now

Blackdrag · Apr 8, 2013

maxwen said:
no - you are right
so we MUST use ICS drivers which are not available for the ATT shizz

therefore this is a dead-end for voice-audio as far as ATT is concerned right now

Does that mean there is no hope for the call audio?

maxwen · Apr 8, 2013

Blackdrag said:
Does that mean there is no hope for the call audio?

well - hope is never lost

BUT - ATT is doing voice call audio different then international
caused by the different modem for LTE. And since this is
implemented in the properitary audio drivers chances are not good

Some technical details:
voice audio is routed between ril (modem) and the audio driver
and this is completely different on international and ATT
thats why its broken by using the HOX ICS drivers right now

So my only hope would be that we finally find a way to use the
"so-called" JB drivers. I would like to do that on the internationl version too
since using the ICS ones causes some minor issues while basically working.

Right now trying to use the JB drivers causing crashing them right on
loading so they seem to require something "extra" that is incompatible to JB
"standard"

HOX devs have exactly the same problem after they received the
JB upgrade for their device. So ALL AOSP custrom roms are required
to still use the old ICS drivers.

While this limitation is acceptablle for the HOX and the international X+
its causing the above mentioned "dead-end" for ATT right now

XSafire · Apr 9, 2013

So is the the audio issue currently impossible to fix or is it just a real developmental hurdle?

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Blackdrag · Apr 10, 2013

maxwen said:
well - hope is never lost

BUT - ATT is doing voice call audio different then international
caused by the different modem for LTE. And since this is
implemented in the properitary audio drivers chances are not good

Some technical details:
voice audio is routed between ril (modem) and the audio driver
and this is completely different on international and ATT
thats why its broken by using the HOX ICS drivers right now

So my only hope would be that we finally find a way to use the
"so-called" JB drivers. I would like to do that on the internationl version too
since using the ICS ones causes some minor issues while basically working.

Right now trying to use the JB drivers causing crashing them right on
loading so they seem to require something "extra" that is incompatible to JB
"standard"

HOX devs have exactly the same problem after they received the
JB upgrade for their device. So ALL AOSP custrom roms are required
to still use the old ICS drivers.

While this limitation is acceptablle for the HOX and the international X+
its causing the above mentioned "dead-end" for ATT right now

Okay, thank you for the information! Could the audio driver situation possibly change if HTC pushes out a sense update that updates the audio drivers OR the coming of Android Key Lime Pie?

sirxdroid · Apr 10, 2013

I really doubt this phone will ever see Key Lime Pie. HTC just doesn't have the resources or interest to invest in an "old" phone. If anything, we should be happy to see a 4.2.x update.

tyessen · Apr 10, 2013

sirxdroid said:
I really doubt this phone will ever see Key Lime Pie. HTC just doesn't have the resources or interest to invest in an "old" phone. If anything, we should be happy to see a 4.2.x update.

That's why we have the awesome dev community here at XDA

Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2

maxwen · Apr 10, 2013

Blackdrag said:
Okay, thank you for the information! Could the audio driver situation possibly change if HTC pushes out a sense update that updates the audio drivers OR the coming of Android Key Lime Pie?

yes

sirxdroid · Apr 10, 2013

tyessen said:
That's why we have the awesome dev community here at XDA

Problem is the pesky drivers. If HTC doesn't release drivers compatible with the Android version we want to run, it's very hard to get things like audio to work.

artiemon · Apr 10, 2013

sirxdroid said:
Problem is the pesky drivers. If HTC doesn't release drivers compatible with the Android version we want to run, it's very hard to get things like audio to work.

I'm not a developer, just a power user, so this question may be out in left field. Are there any other Android devices with the same radio/modem/processor so we could use its drivers?

Lloir · Apr 10, 2013

artiemon said:
I'm not a developer, just a power user, so this question may be out in left field. Are there any other Android devices with the same radio/modem/processor so we could use its drivers?

Nexus 7 and the HOX inter for the tegra3 chip set and I couldn't find any for the radio/modem

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tyessen · Apr 10, 2013

sirxdroid said:
Problem is the pesky drivers. If HTC doesn't release drivers compatible with the Android version we want to run, it's very hard to get things like audio to work.

How are there 4.2 roms running on the One XL if all they have is 4.1 though? If the drivers are compatible, shouldn't we be able to do the same with our 4.1 drivers?

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Blackdrag · Apr 10, 2013

tyessen said:
How are there 4.2 roms running on the One XL if all they have is 4.1 though? If the drivers are compatible, shouldn't we be able to do the same with our 4.1 drivers?

Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2

Okay, so what I have gathered from awesome devs answering my questions and other stuff they have said thus far about the call issue ...

If they got 4.2 call audio working on other devices like the One XL, they had a similar device with the same drivers they could borrow drivers from or compare with. The problem with the HOX+, is that there are no comparable devices. Like Lloir said up there, the Nexus 7 and the International version of the HOX would be comparable devices because they both have Tegra 3 chip sets, but they don't have an LTE modem that the call is routed through, that is the problem. Right now the HOX+ is the ONLY device that has a LTE modem on a Tegra 3 chipset, no other phones have that same hardware setup.

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sirxdroid said:
Problem is the pesky drivers. If HTC doesn't release drivers compatible with the Android version we want to run, it's very hard to get things like audio to work.

Would the drivers work with CM9 or something? Just so we could get off of ... HTC Sense /winces upon mention of HTC Sense

Darealshht · Apr 10, 2013

Blackdrag said:
Okay, so what I have gathered from awesome devs answering my questions and other stuff they have said thus far about the call issue ...

If they got 4.2 call audio working on other devices like the One XL, they had a similar device with the same drivers they could borrow drivers from or compare with. The problem with the HOX+, is that there are no comparable devices. Like Lloir said up there, the Nexus 7 and the International version of the HOX would be comparable devices because they both have Tegra 3 chip sets, but they don't have an LTE modem that the call is routed through, that is the problem. Right now the HOX+ is the ONLY device that has a LTE modem on a Tegra 3 chipset, no other phones have that same hardware setup.

So pretty much we're screwed?

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sirxdroid · Apr 10, 2013

I gave up on the HOX+, I sold it. I now have a Nexus 4, a Nexus 7 and an older Galaxy Nexus CDMA. I don't care which manufacturer makes the devices but I will try to not buy another one that is locked and doesn't get updates. Unfortunately right now the choice seems to be limited to the Google Nexii devices. Hopefully Motorola will release something good and open soon, always liked their hardware for their ruggedness, but not the software.

I'd like to thank all the HOX+ devs who kept me busy flashing over the past few months. You're a great bunch and doing great work in spite of many obstacles! I wish you very much luck taming the HOX+ beast!

Darealshht · Apr 11, 2013

sirxdroid said:
I gave up on the HOX+, I sold it. I now have a Nexus 4, a Nexus 7 and an older Galaxy Nexus CDMA. I don't care which manufacturer makes the devices but I will try to not buy another one that is locked and doesn't get updates. Unfortunately right now the choice seems to be limited to the Google Nexii devices. Hopefully Motorola will release something good and open soon, always liked their hardware for their ruggedness, but not the software.

I'd like to thank all the HOX+ devs who kept me busy flashing over the past few months. You're a great bunch and doing great work in spite of many obstacles! I wish you very much luck taming the HOX+ beast!

I want to try the nexus 4 but limited storage and no lte is a no go.

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sirxdroid · Apr 11, 2013

Darealshht said:
I want to try the nexus 4 but limited storage and no lte is a no go.

I was thinking the same way, until I tried one. I'm willing to sacrifice LTE for good software choices. I get about 5Mbps down/1Mbps up on AT&T's HSPA+ which is plenty for me anyway. I tried the pre-paid $30 T-Mobile plan just for kicks and their HSPA+ is very fast, close to AT&T LTE. The latency could be a bit better though. As for storage, 16GB is plenty for me, I'd be fine with 8GB too which is what I was really looking for but found a great deal on a 16GB so I picked it up. 64GB on the HOX+ was really a waste for me.

If you want to just play with the N4, watch for deals on a used one (local Craigslist, etc.) - it's a lot of fun to play with and keep it around. That was my initial plan to maybe play with it, put Ubuntu on it to see what it is about, etc. but the phone is excellent as a daily driver, so the HOX+ had to find a new home.

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