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garyd9

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3) Software engineers are very competitive. Professional software engineers hate to be showed up. Period!!! Especially by hobbiest types, no mater how qualified.
As a professional software engineer with over 20 years in the industry, I disagree. The ones getting paid are usually more laid back than the amateurs. I have my paycheck, resume, and credits - I don't need to prove anything. There are also those in my industry who are only competitive in terms of padding and lying on their resume's.

An amateur, on the other hand, actually CARES about what they are doing. They might do it for themselves, or just a pat on the back. There's no promise of a paycheck, so the ONLY incentive to do a job is to do it well.

Of course, some of us do it both professionally, and as a hobby. We are, well, true engineers.. the geeks of the world.

(before someone flames me for the use of "amateur"; its not a negative term. It's properly defined as: a person who engages in a study, sport, or other activity for pleasure rather than for financial benefit or professional reasons. Most amateurs are actually better than their professional/paid peers.)
 

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As a professional software engineer with over 20 years in the industry, I disagree. The ones getting paid are usually more laid back than the amateurs. I have my paycheck, resume, and credits - I don't need to prove anything. There are also those in my industry who are only competitive in terms of padding and lying on their resume's.

An amateur, on the other hand, actually CARES about what they are doing. They might do it for themselves, or just a pat on the back. There's no promise of a paycheck, so the ONLY incentive to do a job is to do it well.

Of course, some of us do it both professionally, and as a hobby. We are, well, true engineers.. the geeks of the world.

(before someone flames me for the use of "amateur"; its not a negative term. It's properly defined as: a person who engages in a study, sport, or other activity for pleasure rather than for financial benefit or professional reasons. Most amateurs are actually better than their professional/paid peers.)


Absolutely no disrespect intended!!! I am 20 years in myself. and I have worked a couple places that were laid back. However most places I have been have been very fast paced and competitive. That's just my experience..
 

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Absolutely no disrespect intended!!! I am 20 years in myself. and I have worked a couple places that were laid back. However most places I have been have been very fast paced and competitive. That's just my experience..
No disrespect taken... none at all. I have to wonder - are those people competing against each other, or with each other for a common goal?

Seems that a workplace where people compete against each other wouldn't accomplish much.
 

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I think he means competition of other companies' engineers. For example if the people of motorola port ics first the ones on samsung will go berserker. honestly unless we are talking about top technology i don't think it is like this at all.

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I think he means competition of other companies' engineers. For example if the people of motorola port ics first the ones on samsung will go berserker. honestly unless we are talking about top technology i don't think it is like this at all.
Perhaps... I don't I I've ever really felt that way. I've always been either so arrogant that the "other guy" wasn't really a consideration or so focused on being the best I could be, that I didn't pay attention to "the other guy."

Perhaps I'm strange in that regard. If so, it'll be a good match for all the other ways I'm strange. ;)
 
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I haven't checked this thread I awhile. Kinda dissapointing about all the delays. I guess I'm just one of those impatient people lol.
 

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more news about ICS...still no date,yes i know..

http://wirelessandmobilenews.com/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-iiblaze-4g-tab-7.0-10.1-ics-updates.html

"We have already heard Samsung’s plan for Wi-Fi Galaxy Tabs and several other carriers, but T-Mobile was glaringly absent. Now the T-Mobile plans are finally out and the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 will both receive upgrades to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. The only question left is how long until it is released."
source: http://www.galaxytabs.com/2012/05/tmobile-galaxy-tabs-ics/

P.S. I know most of us are angry about the delay,but...watch the bright side..WE WILL get it sooner or later.
P.S2. Don't kill the messenger lol :D
 
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I'm not at all angry. I also own an Asus Transformer which had ICS released quickly. The software is a disaster, there is no way to go back to Honeycomb, and the end result is that many of these tablets have gone from being reliable products to total pieces of junk. Many of the people in the XDA Transformer forum who were whining about not having ICS are now screaming to get a stable version of HC back. If you want to see a real disaster of what happens when software is released when it's half baked just take a look at the XDA Transformer forum.
 
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I agree

I have used Samsung devices like smartphones and tablets but I do not know what game Samsung is playing since they do not open the sources for several hardware items and firmware. If I want to buy a close device I would buy a windows mobile or an IPAD but Samsung tries to appear like the good people who apparently are selling open source devices with ANDROID but at the same time are appearing like the worst companies that only think in money and not in human beings.
 

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tzacapaca

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P6200 is the international version,so you will not see it on samsung.com which is american site of samsung:)..but don't worry it will be either released by samsung itself or ported by our brave devs :D
 

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forget about eligible --> http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755

Specific models that will receive the ICS update include the following devices.


Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus Wi-Fi (P6210)
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus (SGH-t869)

The poster I was replying to was asking about it in Canada, per the following press release:

http://www.embedded.com/electronics...Offers-Android-4-0-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-Upgrade

"Devices eligible for an ICS upgrade include:"

The bold for emphasis is mine.
 

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SE dropped ICS update for xperia play... i do hope that Samsung don't follow SE's decision with our Tab Plus..
 

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it's not going to be release for the G+ until XMas. By the the Google Tab will be out and the G+ will be worth $100 on fleabay.:):eek:
 

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    3) Software engineers are very competitive. Professional software engineers hate to be showed up. Period!!! Especially by hobbiest types, no mater how qualified.
    As a professional software engineer with over 20 years in the industry, I disagree. The ones getting paid are usually more laid back than the amateurs. I have my paycheck, resume, and credits - I don't need to prove anything. There are also those in my industry who are only competitive in terms of padding and lying on their resume's.

    An amateur, on the other hand, actually CARES about what they are doing. They might do it for themselves, or just a pat on the back. There's no promise of a paycheck, so the ONLY incentive to do a job is to do it well.

    Of course, some of us do it both professionally, and as a hobby. We are, well, true engineers.. the geeks of the world.

    (before someone flames me for the use of "amateur"; its not a negative term. It's properly defined as: a person who engages in a study, sport, or other activity for pleasure rather than for financial benefit or professional reasons. Most amateurs are actually better than their professional/paid peers.)
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    So we have to register now?

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    Visitor: I have had this device for some months now and have been eager to have this upgrade since I purchased this device. I have seen several news reports from Samsung listing my device as eligible for update to ICS "soon", but the information seems vague at best

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    I'm not at all angry. I also own an Asus Transformer which had ICS released quickly. The software is a disaster, there is no way to go back to Honeycomb, and the end result is that many of these tablets have gone from being reliable products to total pieces of junk. Many of the people in the XDA Transformer forum who were whining about not having ICS are now screaming to get a stable version of HC back. If you want to see a real disaster of what happens when software is released when it's half baked just take a look at the XDA Transformer forum.