[APP][4.1+] 8sms: Android 4.4 KitKat / CyanogenMod 10.2 stock messaging with extras

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bengtan

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A very good app you made there ! But there are two little bugs on my HTC One. First, in the notification bar, when i receive a sms, it appears in double. And when I send a sms, and i want to send an another one immidiatly after i sent the first one, the sms (the second one) can't be sent (red logo : message can't be sent). Except that, everything work like a charm :)

> First, in the notification bar, when i receive a sms, it appears in double.

There was a bug recently introduced in 1.06 which can cause this. I'm planning to get it fixed in the next release (which should be 1.08).

> immidiatly after i sent the first one, the sms (the second one)
> can't be sent (red logo : message can't be sent)

Hmmm ... not sure if I can do much about this. Most likely, your phone is telling 8sms that the sms can't be sent, but there are many reasons why it cannot be sent.

There was another user who reported similar symptoms, but for him, all the messages did get sent even though the phone or 8sms told him they weren't sent.

Love the app just wondering can you include the blacklist functions and offer a choice of the standard green or the blue icon.

You can blacklist messages from selected contacts by ticking their 'Send to voicemail' checkbox in the Contacts app.

I'll revisit the icon issue when I eventually have time to re-do the themeing.

Thank you.
 
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Great app, was wondering if there is a way to disable the profile/avatar pics beside messages, e.g., just have the message text and person's name and timestamp?

Thanks again, great replacement for the stock app.

BTW, this works great on the Moto X VZW Developer Edition.
 

jjrx3

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i used another sms app because it was making the stock sms app crash constantly but with this app it works really good.. my only thing is that the pop-ups are too wide and half of the contact picture is cut off .. not sure if its because my phone is smaller than most phones.
 

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Great app, was wondering if there is a way to disable the profile/avatar pics beside messages, e.g., just have the message text and person's name and timestamp?

Thanks again, great replacement for the stock app.

BTW, this works great on the Moto X VZW Developer Edition.

Thanks for the feedback.

When I eventually get to work on themeing, I'll look into this. Probably not a bad idea to have themes which don't show the contact photos.

i used another sms app because it was making the stock sms app crash constantly but with this app it works really good.. my only thing is that the pop-ups are too wide and half of the contact picture is cut off .. not sure if its because my phone is smaller than most phones.

Hmmm ... bit busy with other bugs and features since this is minor-ish. Can you ask me again in ... about 3 weeks later? It's not that I don't want to help ... it's that I have a lot of feedback and (minor) bugs to fix.

Thanks.
 
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Latest release breaks the ability to send an instant message when I have a call and I want .to send an sms instead of answer..fix it please...this is the best app.
Apart from this is anybody has the previous version to post it here...?
 

bengtan

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Latest release breaks the ability to send an instant message when I have a call and I want .to send an sms instead of answer..fix it please...this is the best app.
Apart from this is anybody has the previous version to post it here...?

Hi,

I'm sorry about this.

There was a change in 1.08 which affected this.

In version 1.08, Quick responses (which is what you're talking about, I think) is disabled in non-Stand-alone mode because it was sometimes causing duplicate messages. Since non-Stand-alone is the default, 1.08 disables the quick responses feature.

To fix this, assuming you are using Stand-alone mode, just go to the 8sms settings and turn Stand-alone mode off and then back on.

In other words, toggle Stand-alone mode. This should re-enable the Quick responses feature.

Sorry for the small bug.
 
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Pikezer1337

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On the Note 3 for ATT and having trouble with Auto retrieve. I have to manually turn on data and hit download.
 

JoeFCaputo113

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Just wondering what happened to really messages being converted to an MMS?? I actually like that haha. Thanks in advance!

Sent from a Galaxy 4 light years away
 

bengtan

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On the Note 3 for ATT and having trouble with Auto retrieve. I have to manually turn on data and hit download.

Does your carrier or phone support 'wifi over mms' or 'wifi calling' or something like that? You might have to disable it because 8sms only works with mms over cellular data.

Or always enabling mobile data might work ... It depends on the phone, I think.

See http://8s.ms/cant-send-mms and look at the 'wifi calling' and 'mms over wifi' sections.

I'd like to fix this but mms over wifi is a bit of a black art to me :(

Just wondering what happened to really messages being converted to an MMS?? I actually like that haha. Thanks in advance!

Oh dear. Do you mean the feature whereby long text only messages would be converted from sms to mms?

I disabled it because a number of users didn't want automatic conversion because they couldn't control it.

If you want to convert an sms message to mms, a workaround is to add a subject to it. Would this be satisfactory to you?

Otherwise I'd have to add a setting to switch this on or off ... at the possibility of adding more clutter.
 

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Does your carrier or phone support 'wifi over mms' or 'wifi calling' or something like that? You might have to disable it because 8sms only works with mms over cellular data.

Or always enabling mobile data might work ... It depends on the phone, I think.

See http://8s.ms/cant-send-mms and look at the 'wifi calling' and 'mms over wifi' sections.

I'd like to fix this but mms over wifi is a bit of a black art to me :(



Oh dear. Do you mean the feature whereby long text only messages would be converted from sms to mms?

I disabled it because a number of users didn't want automatic conversion because they couldn't control it.

If you want to convert an sms message to mms, a workaround is to add a subject to it. Would this be satisfactory to you?

Otherwise I'd have to add a setting to switch this on or off ... at the possibility of adding more clutter.

OK cool, didn't know that! That should suffice, thanks. Maybe later on in development, you could make a switch on/off for it though!!
 

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Easiest way to get quick reply back after going back to stock on my Nexus! This is so cool! Thanks dude!
 

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    EDIT: Download 8sms from Google Play or download from the website.

    EDIT: 8sms now based on Android 4.4 KitKat / Cyanogenmod 10.2. See post #394.
    EDIT: App renamed from 88sms to 8sms. See post #246.

    Hi,

    This is my first android app and my first app announcement on XDA so apologies in advance if I've broken any rules.

    I've ported the stock messaging app and then added some enhancements and changes so it can (hopefully) work on any Jelly Bean phone. This app is downstream from the latest Android 4.3 and CyanogenMod 10.2 (not-yet-released as of writing).

    (ICS compatibility is a possible future feature.)

    Please have a look if interested and feel free to try it out.

    The Play Store link is:

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thinkleft.eightyeightsms.mms

    Excerpts from the app description follows ...



    Notable features

    • Notification pop-ups
    • Quick reply
    • Gesture based templates
    • Emoji support
    • Optional dark theme
    Install this app if you want to use features from the latest Android messaging app without having to wait for a full phone software update.

    Usage

    Whilst 88sms is a replacement for the messaging app that came with your phone, it is actually an add-on application only.

    Please do not disable or remove the messaging app that came with your phone as that is still required to receive sms and mms messages.

    88sms works best if you turn off notifications for the messaging app that came with your phone. Then you won't get two sets of notifications.

    Phone compatibility

    This app may not work (yet) on the Samsung Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Tab 2 7.0. If you install this app on one of these devices, please let us know if it works.

    If you install this app on your phone and it does not work, please let us know. Please be sure to specify your phone model and software version number, and the version of 88sms you have installed.

    Permissions

    This app requires a wide range of permissions because it is a port of a system app. System apps use a lot of permissions. Full network access is required in order to send (or download) mms using your phone's cellular data (mms) connection.

    Thank you.
    10
    8sms: To be continued for now

    Hi all,

    I've posted an update to the 8sms website:

    8sms: To be continued for now
    http://8s.ms/to-be-continued-for-now

    Relevant excerpts:

    I still think 8sms is a worthwhile project, but unfortunately, the economics are such that there would be financial loss and opportunity cost if the present path were to continue. However, I am loathe to abandon the users — especially those who have already donated — so I will try to keep 8sms going for as long as I can.
    I will be reducing the amount of time and resources spent on developing 8sms and diverting them to other projects.

    HOWEVER,

    8sms will continue to be maintained, but development and new features will be at a slower rate (as time and resources permits).

    Specifically, 8sms will be updated for Android Lollipop and Material design*.

    (*Although it will probably be incremental changes only. A total re-design to be 100% compliant with Material is likely to be too much work.)

    I believe this is a suitable compromise. 8sms continues to be maintained and still leaves the door open for future possibilities. For example, if 8sms suddenly grows a lot of new users, it can still be revived into a "foreground" project.

    For the foreseeable future ... 8sms continues to live.

    Thank you all for your continued support.
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    Your response to privacy and keeping your app closed sourced in earlier post combined with your response above doesn't make sense. I think something shady is going on. So thank you for confirming this.. I downloaded Textra as I'm typing this .. and I suggest others do as well. Why? Because when I emailed Textra about their privacy policy they gave me a straight forward answer, not this wishy-washy. I'm obviously not the only person worried by this app if privacy concerns have already been brought up by others.

    The other post I'm referring to is on page 46 by user pcgaldo (I cant post links yet).

    ---------- Post added at 12:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:50 PM ----------



    I don't mind giving that data as well. But the dev isn't being clear. The privacy policy on HIS website states he collects data.. but his response to me when I questioned him is that he doesn't collect data. He is to wishy-washy. I believe that if your a DEV you have to be straight forward with the people who are "trusting" you with their information, especially in today's world. Defend him all you want, but in reality non-of-us know what hes doing because this app is closed sourced. Funny because he said he sourced this app from cyanogenmod 10.2 and that it is 98% not his app, and is theirs.

    Hi,

    It's quite common in legal-ish statements to say "may" without actually doing something. I was just following this pattern.

    I said "We may perform automated collection ..." because I was thinking of adding analytics some time in the future. Then, if I did add analytics, it would be covered by this statement and I wouldn't have to change it.

    *BUT*

    Since some people are concerned, I've just changed the privacy statement to:

    8sms does not collect any data about you, your contacts, your messages, or how you use 8sms.

    (See http://8s.ms/privacy)

    This means I can't add analytics in the future either (or else I'd have to adjust the privacy policy).

    To re-emphasise, 8sms has never collected any data from you (or your phone), and still does not collect any data from you (or your phone).

    Are you satisfied with this answer?

    If not, please let me know why not and I'd be happy to address your remaining concerns.
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    An update on the status of 8sms.

    Hi all,

    I feel a status update is warranted since it's been a week since the "big change" to 8sms regarding monetisation.

    So far, the numbers look promising, though I feel it's still a bit too early to call. I've had a big spike in donations in the first few days. This has petered off a bit. On current trends, I think it's very likely I will continue to work on, and improve, 8sms (and I admit it can be improved a lot).

    So ... there is room for optimism ... we'll just see how things go in a week's, and a month's, time.

    I've taken on board the feedback regarding the ad placement, and moved the ads from the messaging screen to the main screen where, hopefully, they will be much less intrusive.

    (For those who are interested, I talked to a Google Admob representative, and they confirmed that placing ads in 8sms at the top of the screen would be against their policy. The reason for this is ... that 8sms uses an action bar with a drop down menu. Ads at the top of the screen (but below the action bar) would be too near the drop down menu and considered too likely to cause accidental clicks.)

    I will post further updates as time progresses.

    Thank you for reading, and your continued support.
    8
    Deep freeze

    @DurhamHusker and the other great users who continue to use 8sms:

    I'm really sorry about 8sms going completely quiet. Really really sorry.

    I still intend to continue development if I have time ... and the intention has not changed.

    The problem is that I don't have time anymore.

    I've got a "normal", more conventional job now and that is keeping me very busy. Furthermore, there is an equity component so I'm incentivised to keep fully focussed on it.

    This is why I haven't touched 8sms in about 3-4 months. If this pattern continues, it will be several more months before I even get close to re-activating 8sms development, if I do at all.

    Hence, whilst 8sms is technically still supported, in practice, it's in deep freeze. One day, maybe, I'll revive it. Maybe.

    If not, I'll say my goodbyes before shutting it down (and maybe releasing as open source).

    Thank you.