[Q] TV out???

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GottaZoom

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Saw an article in the last week or so saying the MHL televisions may come to US . . not sure, but wondering why the TV needs MHL to take video in via HDMI . . is this only a power backwards through the HDMI cable feature that needs to be added to TVs for MHL to work or does it add a microUSB port and new firmware?

Does external power to the MHL cable eliminate the need for MHL TV? Wouldn't the phone still need to have firmware/software for output through microUSB just like the PC connection?
 

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guys, as I posted earlier, I've examined the kernel source code, and you're not going to get MHL output until someone (HTC or a dev) adds it to a kernel, and even then we still don't know if the Inc2 has the same hardware capability as the E3D/Sensation. So for now it doesn't matter which adapter you try, it's not going to work.
 

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Saw an article in the last week or so saying the MHL televisions may come to US . . not sure, but wondering why the TV needs MHL to take video in via HDMI . . is this only a power backwards through the HDMI cable feature that needs to be added to TVs for MHL to work or does it add a microUSB port and new firmware?

Does external power to the MHL cable eliminate the need for MHL TV? Wouldn't the phone still need to have firmware/software for output through microUSB just like the PC connection?

MHL compatible TVs just add the power return to the phone to eliminate the need for the phones charger/power supply. thats it. obviously this will be a little more convenient.
 

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Now it's 4 to 3 in favor of no TV out according to HTC reps.

Thank you for contacting HTC Technical support about if your Droid Incredible 2 device has a video out option on it. I do apologize that you have this issue with your device and I will gladly assist you with this today. The Incredible 2 device does not support any video out features. I do apologize for all the inconvenience that this may cause you.
 

reddawn1563

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Ok so I am assuming nothing has changed since last month but I figured I would post the question anyway. Would anyone know since this phone apparently doesn't have the MHL out would any custom roms and kernels give use the ability to do so?
 

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Would anyone know since this phone apparently doesn't have the MHL out would any custom roms and kernels give use the ability to do so?

Pretty sure the ability to use this phone to feed a tv is at a dead end. If it was a software issue, I am reasonably sure something would have been pushed out by now to deal with it.

Since HTC never promoted MHL for this model, and gave very misleading information repeatedly, I will be amazed if we ever see this feature work on our phones. This is my biggest beef with this phone! Other than that, it is near perfect.
 

bam1027

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TV out replaced by DLNA

I had the dinc (1) and I loved that phone. It was the best phone I had ever had until I got my dinc 2. I was a little aggravated when I found out that the dinc 2 had no tv out feature. Even though the tv out on my dinc was not perfect it was functional, and I thought as big of a step up as the dinc 2 is it would have been made better, maybe a little hd out love like the rezound and razr. I just got my dinc 2 on 11/28 and I did not know that there was no tv out until the cable would not fit from my dinc 1 tv out and I did enough research to find the answers.
What I found is that the dinc 2 does not have wired tv out b/c wires will be a thing of the past in the near future. DLNA will replace all of the wired streaming we are still using now so you could say that the dinc 2 is a little ahead of its time, and I think in the future that is how the dinc2 will be looked at.

Here is a rundown of the DLNA capabilities of the dinc2
Ok basically there is no mirroring capability on the dinc2. The good news is that you really do not need it. With DLNA the internet is available through your or any wifi network that you have access to. All you need is a DLNA media player hooked to any tv via avi (standard rca cables) or hdmi. I have the wd tv live player hooked to my tv and my home wifi. That gives me access to netflix, youtube, pandora, tuninradio, and about 20 other of those type web based outlets. The great thing for dinc2 owners is that the dinc2 will interact with the wdtv live player right out of the box, no third party apps needed. You can stream your music files, videos, and pictures from your phone to your tv wirelessly. Simply go to whichever media you want to stream >menu>select player>wd tv (or whatever DLNA media player you have in your network) then you should be up and running(may take 15 seconds to load onto the tv). Do not bother with the apps that are available from the app store for streaming, they are all glitch bags and will not work properly, the dinc2 has all the software it needs built in to interact with any DLNA media player. More and more the external box will become a thing of the past b/c of smart tvs with DLNA built right in. Be glad you own one, it will serve you well in the near future.;)
The dinc2 is a great phone. I tested it against the 4g droid charge today and it blew it away in everything except the 4g speed vs 3g speed, but this dinc2 is snappy and is not far behind the charge even with a 3g connection. I got my dinc2 in red for free on black friday on vz's website and it is a great phone. I say thanks to 4g and dual core processors hitting the android market for making the best single core 3g android phone available for free. Do the tests on this phone and you will see that it is a fine piece of hardware. I am getting QS scores of over 1500. The 4g samsung charge I tested today got a 952 and the dinc 1 got a 980. I think it is a really good phone with the perfect size beautiful lcd display, srs wow and gen 2 snapdragon processor for a fast interface, the DLNA compatibility only makes it better.
 
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I had the dinc (1) and I loved that phone. It was the best phone I had ever had until I got my dinc 2. I was a little aggravated when I found out that the dinc 2 had no tv out feature. Even though the tv out on my dinc was not perfect it was functional, and I thought as big of a step up as the dinc 2 is it would have been made better, maybe a little hd out love like the rezound and razr. I just got my dinc 2 on 11/28 and I did not know that there was no tv out until the cable would not fit from my dinc 1 tv out and I did enough research to find the answers.
What I found is that the dinc 2 does not have wired tv out b/c wires will be a thing of the past in the near future. DLNA will replace all of the wired streaming we are still using now so you could say that the dinc 2 is a little ahead of its time, and I think in the future that is how the dinc2 will be looked at.

Here is a rundown of the DLNA capabilities of the dinc2
Ok basically there is no mirroring capability on the dinc2. The good news is that you really do not need it. With DLNA the internet is available through your or any wifi network that you have access to. All you need is a DLNA media player hooked to any tv via avi (standard rca cables) or hdmi. I have the wd tv live player hooked to my tv and my home wifi. That gives me access to netflix, youtube, pandora, tuninradio, and about 20 other of those type web based outlets. The great thing for dinc2 owners is that the dinc2 will interact with the wdtv live player right out of the box, no third party apps needed. You can stream your music files, videos, and pictures from your phone to your tv wirelessly. Simply go to whichever media you want to stream >menu>select player>wd tv (or whatever DLNA media player you have in your network) then you should be up and running(may take 15 seconds to load onto the tv). Do not bother with the apps that are available from the app store for streaming, they are all glitch bags and will not work properly, the dinc2 has all the software it needs built in to interact with any DLNA media player. More and more the external box will become a thing of the past b/c of smart tvs with DLNA built right in. As far as I know there are only two phones on the market with DLNA built in and they are the htc rezound and the htc dinc2. Be glad you own one, it will serve you well in the near future.;)
The dinc2 is a great phone. I tested it against the 4g droid charge today and it blew it away in everything except the 4g speed vs 3g speed, but this dinc2 is snappy and is not far behind the charge even with a 3g connection. I got my dinc2 in red for free on black friday on vz's website and it is a great phone. I say thanks to 4g and dual core processors hitting the android market for making the best single core 3g android phone available for free. Do the tests on this phone and you will see that it is a fine piece of hardware. I am getting QS scores of over 1500. The 4g samsung charge I tested today got a 952 and the dinc 1 got a 980. I think it is a really good phone with the perfect size beautiful lcd display, srs wow and gen 2 snapdragon processor for a fast interface, the DLNA compatibility only makes it better.

Any sense 2.0 or above phone has DLNA capability out of the box so do moto blur phones

Sent from my Incredible 2 HD using XDA App
 
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My bad. Your correct, all the HTC Android phones for Verizon since the thunderbolt have DLNA. It is a cool feature. If you have to have the mirroring get the rezound, it does that in HD through a mini hdmi port. Pretty cool but can't beat gettin the Dinc2 for free, its still a standout IMO.
 

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    I went ahead and looked at the kernel source HTC posted, and compared it to the source for the EVO3D and Sensation (both of which have working MHL output), and sadly the Inc2 does not have the same capability in its kernel. On the E3D/Sensation, MHL output is handled by the Silicon Image SiI9234 MHL transmitter. That driver isn't present in the Inc2 kernel. What I still don't know is whether the hardware is present on the Inc2. If so, then there's some hope of eventually getting it working. If not, then we are SOL
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    Hey guys - Just wanted to let you know that I ordered one of these:

    http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-mhl-to-hdmi-adapter-black-218572/

    It should arrive in about 2 weeks so I will be sure to let you all know if/how it works out as soon as I get it.
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    MHL = no go

    I finally joined XDA to let you know that the cable from T-mobile doesn't work for the DINC 2. Sorry guys...
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    Let's install some new, cool technology and have no way for people to utilize it... Just to mess with them... :rolleyes:
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    TV out replaced by DLNA

    I had the dinc (1) and I loved that phone. It was the best phone I had ever had until I got my dinc 2. I was a little aggravated when I found out that the dinc 2 had no tv out feature. Even though the tv out on my dinc was not perfect it was functional, and I thought as big of a step up as the dinc 2 is it would have been made better, maybe a little hd out love like the rezound and razr. I just got my dinc 2 on 11/28 and I did not know that there was no tv out until the cable would not fit from my dinc 1 tv out and I did enough research to find the answers.
    What I found is that the dinc 2 does not have wired tv out b/c wires will be a thing of the past in the near future. DLNA will replace all of the wired streaming we are still using now so you could say that the dinc 2 is a little ahead of its time, and I think in the future that is how the dinc2 will be looked at.

    Here is a rundown of the DLNA capabilities of the dinc2
    Ok basically there is no mirroring capability on the dinc2. The good news is that you really do not need it. With DLNA the internet is available through your or any wifi network that you have access to. All you need is a DLNA media player hooked to any tv via avi (standard rca cables) or hdmi. I have the wd tv live player hooked to my tv and my home wifi. That gives me access to netflix, youtube, pandora, tuninradio, and about 20 other of those type web based outlets. The great thing for dinc2 owners is that the dinc2 will interact with the wdtv live player right out of the box, no third party apps needed. You can stream your music files, videos, and pictures from your phone to your tv wirelessly. Simply go to whichever media you want to stream >menu>select player>wd tv (or whatever DLNA media player you have in your network) then you should be up and running(may take 15 seconds to load onto the tv). Do not bother with the apps that are available from the app store for streaming, they are all glitch bags and will not work properly, the dinc2 has all the software it needs built in to interact with any DLNA media player. More and more the external box will become a thing of the past b/c of smart tvs with DLNA built right in. Be glad you own one, it will serve you well in the near future.;)
    The dinc2 is a great phone. I tested it against the 4g droid charge today and it blew it away in everything except the 4g speed vs 3g speed, but this dinc2 is snappy and is not far behind the charge even with a 3g connection. I got my dinc2 in red for free on black friday on vz's website and it is a great phone. I say thanks to 4g and dual core processors hitting the android market for making the best single core 3g android phone available for free. Do the tests on this phone and you will see that it is a fine piece of hardware. I am getting QS scores of over 1500. The 4g samsung charge I tested today got a 952 and the dinc 1 got a 980. I think it is a really good phone with the perfect size beautiful lcd display, srs wow and gen 2 snapdragon processor for a fast interface, the DLNA compatibility only makes it better.