[HOW-TO] Preparing to flash an ND8 (kitkat) rom

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Thank you CNexus for all your genius work. Had to pop my cherry to thank you. You and other devs have help me unbricked my hard bricked phone. Now Im as good as new with KitKat running. Now to a flash this Wicked Rom. :laugh:

You are going love wicked x v6.5

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troyernet

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I am rooted Odex and have been looking everywhere for the stock Knox MK3 boot loader, kernel and recovery. Any pointers on where to find it?

The only chance for you is if you're rooted Odexed. You'd have to unroot, flash the stock Knox MK3 bootloader, kernel and recovery, and then accept the OTA.

There is NO way to run TouchWiz 4.4.2 without the Knox ND8 bootloader.

And if you don't know one way or the other, I'd say there's more of a chance you're DeOdexed than Odexed, which won't work at all for the OTA.

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roirraW "edor" ehT

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I am rooted Odex and have been looking everywhere for the stock Knox MK3 boot loader, kernel and recovery. Any pointers on where to find it?

Scratch my original response, I didn't realize I was talking to you two pages ago. :)

Edit: You can try here http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.php?dir=Files/Devices/Samsung Galaxy S3 (SPH-L710)/

At least some of the files might be available there.

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.
 
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troyernet

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Great link, thanks. My thought is that I could install the stock, full OTA MK3 on top of my current configuration: Rooted Odex MK3 with MD4 bootloader. After that I could do the OTA ND8 and I should be able to root from there. Has anyone else tried this? I can be the guinea pig, but I'd love to know how it went for anyone else before I step in too deep.
 
updated from 6.2 to 6.5 and lost root, any ideas?

I updated to 6.5 and I'm still rooted but, If you need to root again.. try flashing superuser.zip/supersu.update.zip in recovery. It's how I got root on stock 4.3 and 4.4. Hope this helps

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Given that the first ND8 rom is out there now, I'd thought it would be a good idea to write up the steps you need to take BEFORE you can proceed to flashing your first ND8 rom.





Devs and others, I encourage you to refer all ND8 flashing questions here to keep things centralized and have one set of info from one person versus multiple from multiple people.

Have fun flashing!

cheers m8 had some bumps along the road but got it all sorted and and finally on ND8.

+1 on the phil recovery too. dat stuff is da bomb...
 
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Hey guys, I need some help with this and didn't want to start a new thread since I think this one covers my needs pretty well. I'm currently running the stock rooted 4.3 rom with the MB1 bootloader. I used to be heavily into having the latest ROMs and would constantly be flashing new things but haven't been interested in it for a while. At this point I'm leaning towards unrooting my phone but don't want to wind up with a brick and I'm really not confident in my skills anymore. So, if I wanted to unroot my phone, could I just stop after step 2? Or is there another process I'd need to follow entirely?
 

bilgerryan

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Hey guys, I need some help with this and didn't want to start a new thread since I think this one covers my needs pretty well. I'm currently running the stock rooted 4.3 rom with the MB1 bootloader. I used to be heavily into having the latest ROMs and would constantly be flashing new things but haven't been interested in it for a while. At this point I'm leaning towards unrooting my phone but don't want to wind up with a brick and I'm really not confident in my skills anymore. So, if I wanted to unroot my phone, could I just stop after step 2? Or is there another process I'd need to follow entirely?

Step #2 is actually all you need if you want to be unrooted stock KitKat

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Requisite dumb post of the day...

I'm running CNexus's MK3 rooted, odexed stock with TWRP and MD4 bootloader.

My question is this... Is there ANY reason not to move on to ND8?

With all the KNOX talk since 4.3 I've poo poo'd even considering it.

I see there's root'n and rom'n going on so I guess it's really no big deal eh? Other than going back?

I'm stuck on the fence about this one...

BTW, thanks CNex for all you do! :good:
 

bilgerryan

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I'm running CNexus's MK3 rooted, odexed stock with TWRP and MD4 bootloader.

My question is this... Is there ANY reason not to move on to ND8?

With all the KNOX talk since 4.3 I've poo poo'd even considering it.

I see there's root'n and rom'n going on so I guess it's really no big deal eh? Other than going back?

I'm stuck on the fence about this one...

BTW, thanks CNex for all you do! :good:

If you don't have a warranty there is no reason not to.

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chrisc8107

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I cant seem to find and post on why this tar nd8 will not show up in odin 3.09 or 3.07 but other tar files show up just fine any ideas?

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I cant seem to find and post on why this tar nd8 will not show up in odin 3.09 or 3.07 but other tar files show up just fine any ideas?

nvm i just extracted the file in my stupendousness lol
 
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I think it's time for me to make the move to 4.4.... just wanna make sure I get this right (odin the nd8.tar reboot, odin recovery.tar reboot, then flash any nd8 rom?)


I dont have to flash any autoroot or rooting .zip at any point?


Or does the rom I flash (3rd step) root the device?


I remember 4.3 I had to flash autoroot.zip(or something) after I odin the recovery to get superuser.


someone asked this question and didn't see a straight answer or missed it. Thanks guys in advanced.

Been such a long time since I rooted. Any recommendations on which version of odin to use? Last thing do I need samsung device manager for odin to work? I really dont wanna brick.
 
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I think it's time for me to make the move to 4.4.... just wanna make sure I get this right (odin the nd8.tar reboot, odin recovery.tar reboot, then flash any nd8 rom?)


I dont have to flash any autoroot or rooting .zip at any point?


Or does the rom I flash (3rd step) root the device?


I remember 4.3 I had to flash autoroot.zip(or something) after I odin the recovery to get superuser.


someone asked this question and didn't see a straight answer or missed it. Thanks guys in advanced.

Been such a long time since I rooted. Any recommendations on which version of odin to use? Last thing do I need samsung device manager for odin to work? I really dont wanna brick.

Flash tar Odin 3.07 pda reboot unchecked, pull battery when odin finished. Flash recovery tar same thing pull battery, reboot recovery. I flashed the Knox removable, supersu zip, superuser update zip first rebooted phone normal. Reboot recovery backup for future failure! then you can flash any Rom you want just not baseband modem boot loader (downgrade from nd8 w/odin) but any rom will work, 4.4 4.3 4.2 etc. Don't change baseband = no brick if your careful about what you flash.

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rickmatic

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Thanks. Noob-xda
The superuser you speak of is it the chainfire .zip?

And did you flash the Knox removal and superuser in the same session?

Other than that thanks again for the clarifying.
 

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    Given that the first ND8 rom is out there now, I'd thought it would be a good idea to write up the steps you need to take BEFORE you can proceed to flashing your first ND8 rom.

    Steps to take/verify before flashing an ND8 rom
    1. Check your bootloader version. If you are not on the ND8 bootloader, any ND8 rom you flash will brick your device.

      You can check your bootloader version by running the following command in a terminal emulator app/shell on your device. Adb shell will work as well if you know how to get that going.

      Code:
      getprop ro.bootloader

      If the version string it returns ends with "ND8" (no quotes of course), you are golden and you can skip to STEP 5. Otherwise continue to step 2.
    2. Oh no. You ARE NOT on the ND8 firmware so you need to flash it before you can safely flash your first ND8 rom. Head over to THIS thread and flash the stock tar using ODIN (or a similar program) ON YOUR PC. Mobile ODIN will not just fail to flash it properly, but may leave you with an inoperable device aka brick. Don't try to take shortcuts. Following the instructions in the stock tar thread for how to flash the tar. NOTE: The restore tar MAY or MAY NOT wipe your internal storage so back up your information as necessary.

      After flashing the stock tar, head back here and move on to step 3
    3. Download a custom recovery tar (I highly recommend Philz touch, works for flashing kitkat roms well with the greatest consistency. Grab the latest tar HERE)
    4. Flash the recovery tar with ODIN (or a similar computer program such as jodin, heimdall, etc) the same way you flashed the stock tar.
    5. Now you can flash your rom. Yes, it is slightly tedious the first time, but once you are on the ND8 firmware you needn't repeat these steps the next time you want to flash an ND8 rom :good:



    Devs and others, I encourage you to refer all ND8 flashing questions here to keep things centralized and have one set of info from one person versus multiple from multiple people.

    Have fun flashing!
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    I've been itching to move to ND8. I'm currently on MD4, with no knox. With all this talk of knox, is it really that bad to have?

    Are there any other downsides to having a bootloader with knox?


    No, and no.
    So just to be clear if I follow those 2 steps above I then can flash any ND8 ROM, I got that, but will the phone still be rooted?

    Give me a sec and I'll post some links for you. I'll edit this post with them.

    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2743971

    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2750674

    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2741413

    Follow the instructions in ANY of those thread's first posts AFTER ODINing ND8 and you'll be rooted.

    Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.
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    Thank you CNexus for all your genius work. Had to pop my cherry to thank you. You and other devs have help me unbricked my hard bricked phone. Now Im as good as new with KitKat running. Now to a flash this Wicked Rom. :laugh:

    You are going love wicked x v6.5

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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    Some noob questions.
    I'm rooted primarily for the hotspot and the various extra features some apps offer for root users. I'm still on 4.1.2 and the OTA notification has been driving me absolutely nuts. The Odin flash is supposed to wipe everything. I've backed up my current stock rom through TWRP and I've backed up through Titanium Backup and copied those backups to one of my computers. My concern is after the upgrade to KitKat, will I be able to restore my app settings, data and importantly, the SMS and MMS? There are apps I used for work and various tasks like S Memo and important MMS that I really cannot lose. I've avoided doing this but the OTA alerts are crazy...interrupting video capture and other applications.

    Can I simply use Titanium to restore all this stuff or will it really goof up my phone? The MMS and SMS are the most important. There aren't any programs that can properly back up and restore MMS that I have found other than an android transfer program and I've heard Titanium Backup can somehow.
    If something goes wrong or if I am unable to, can i reflash my TWRP backup and revert? From what I've read, it looks like I can't.

    I never had to worry about losing my data when I was updating my rooted HTC devices. This procedure having to sidestep KNOX is annoying.

    Thanks to any replies.

    Yes and yes. I don't know where you read you can't restore a nandroid but tell them to quit spreading lies.

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    A couple days ago i flashed Philz 6.00.8 d2spr for rooting my virgin mobile s3 4.3 version with odin. Today I upgraded with 4.4 kit Kat stock tar, then flashed philz 6.008 again through odin, rooted ,debloated ect. My question is can I upgrade/flash philz 6.00.8 d2spr to the newst philz recovery through recovery? Or do I need to odin a recovery again. Also i originally tried to odin the d2lte version but odin said it was invalid so I used the d2spr.

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    You can flash any recovery from your custom recovery. The first one is just Odined because you can't flash that from stock recovery.

    Old Philz had separate SPR and LTE builds. The SPR ones aren't built anymore and you can flash the latest LTE one just fine, that's what I use.

    Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII with M.O.A.R. v9.0, dkp kernel dated 3/20/2014 and TWRP v2.7.0.0.