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lviv73

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What is HiApk?Is it a rom like Cyanogen?
The reason im asking is:because when I turn on "Root Access" in Estrong's File Manager options it asks me to select "Cyanogen Mod" or "HiApk Rom".

I googled and found almost no info-none that was in english anyway.Is HiApk Rom like Asian Cyanogen equivalent or something?

Here is link to it http://www.hiapk.com/bbs/thread-9751-1-1.html ,ES File Manager says that it only supports Cyanogen or HiAPK,it gotta be something big if it compares it to CM bit how come nobody is talkin about it?
 
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wtfdusk

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THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING! I HAD ISSUES! They were resolved with reading and following directions Thanks to all.
 

forcelite

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I believe it was a rom for the Desire that is based on CM7 source code.

So it doesnt have anything to do with the Epic, just for the people still rocking their Desire's out there.

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What is HiApk?Is it a rom like Cyanogen?
The reason im asking is:because when I turn on "Root Access" in Estrong's File Manager options it asks me to select "Cyanogen Mod" or "HiApk Rom".

I googled and found almost no info-none that was in english anyway.Is HiApk Rom like Asian Cyanogen equivalent or something?

Here is link to it http://www.hiapk.com/bbs/thread-9751-1-1.html ,ES File Manager says that it only supports Cyanogen or HiAPK,it gotta be something big if it compares it to CM bit how come nobody is talkin about it?
 

GrimReaper24

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Lol great post OP . Was a long time evo user and helper with the folks that were needing root and trouble shooting.


I set up a root guide for folks and a parition guide for the other handful of folks on the evo threads.

Now it's a good time to get the threads rollin on the epic :D someone needs to throw a guide up for the noobs that are new to this.



There is alot more to it then rooting the evo and flashing roms. Still reading up on the threads to see what all the talk is about modems and what not when it comes to roms. The wiki is a bit out dated and needs updating and the roms need to be all thrown together in good order so folks can just go flash happy :D
 

duplissi

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My biggest problem has been when there is a 500 page thread and the original post is never updated with the new info that is dispersed throughout the massive thread.

And people get upset because someone posting a reply doesn't know the bug in the first post was fixed in a post on page 365.

Oh and the other thing has a workaround that is posted on page 419.

If you start a thread and people find known bugs/issues or fixes/solutions, take the time to update the first post with the relevant info.

I can't blame someone for not wanting to read 500 pages of posts to find 2 answers when those answers could have been added the original post. Thus making the original post an actually useful guide.


^this!

do not misunderstand, i greatly appreciate what the devs here have done and continue to do. i have found that there is now an air of elitism and snobbery that is really really off-putting, which threw me off because i was used to the hero forums where everyone there was extremely helpful.

I just got the epic about two weeks ago and in existing threads after searching i asked people to point me in the right direction for the best tweaks/mods/guides and my questions are either ignored or scolded, imo thats asinine and just as bad if not worse than noobs spamming questions that have been answered time and again.
 
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xopher.hunter

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Great OP!
My pet peave is all of worthless posts like "flashing now, thanks" just to increase their post count.
If people stayed on topic and realized this is a developer's site and not a chat room, the threads would be a lot cleaner and less crap posts to weed through.

Funny you should mention this the day it gets un-stickied lol

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MДЯCЦSДИT

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This will be a winner and I might actually be the the first to respond to a topic on this thread haha.

So, I'm not totally nooby, but exactly where I can go to learn absolutely everything about Android (and Ubuntu because Android is based heavily on Ubuntu)? Literally everything. I want to be able to look at a file in the kernel and say, "Hey, I know what that does!" I've been hanging out in the IRC chat, but I'm not learning too much technical detail. I understand how different systems of OSes work, but I'd like to know as much technical detail as I possibly can, right down to the firmware of the parts I'm looking at.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: Shabbypengiun rendered that first line defunct. LOL.

I know this post is old, but I just wanted to inform you of some basics.

1. Android is not based on Ubuntu at all, Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux meaning that it uses (a most likely modified) version of the Linux kernel and contains apps that the Ubuntu team finds useful. Ubuntu is not like Android in terms that the UI of Android is Java based. Also, remember that Ubuntu is not the only Linux distribution. I personally use LMDE to work with Android.

2. As far as the kernel goes, it is pretty self explanitory. If a file has contents that say "audio_incall ", it means that it controlled incall audio. You may also want to be familiar with the names of hardware devices and look at the Githubs of Android developers.

3. If you want detailed help on how to do things, ask on the #epic channel on irc.irondust.net
If you ask specific questions, they will be kindly answered by developers.
 

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    Introduction:

    As the thread title implies, the purpose of this thread is to create a more comprehensive guide for newcomers and old friends alike. I'm sure everyone is getting sick of flaming noobs and being flamed, but more importantly, I am sick of the huge waste of time we all spend re-answering questions, or just plain looking up threads to point someone in the right direction. I certainly know I could be using my time in a better way. Before posting in the forum you MUST complete the required XDA101 courseware. I will try to keep things light hearted, while still preparing you for the jungle out there. I am adding more elective courses in the future...guiding you through your pubescent journey from total noob to full fledged productive member of the human race. If you only have 5 minutes before your wife beats you over the head for working 8 hours at a computer, then coming home and sitting at the computer, you can skim and just read the bold text.

    XDA101:

    Lesson 1: What is XDA?
    As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community. Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to a) customize your device and b) rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself. XDA was created long before the prevalence of mass market smartphones and as such many of the members are developers and have been here since back in the days when PDA phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity. Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.

    The noob backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination. As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong. Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most. XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him. Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again. There are many friendly developer here that spend a considerable amount of time and energy doling out their knowledge and skills for the betterment of the community...for free at that! Technical consultants regularly charge $100-$200/h for the kind of expert support provided in these forums. If you had to spend $20 (12 minutes of support time) every time you posted to this forum, I guarantee there would be a lot less repeat questions and useless threads. You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time, then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.

    Lesson 2: Rules and Regulations
    Before posting you must know and abide by the Rules. Failure to do so could result in a temporary/permanent ban...or in rare occasions castration. Following these rules will create a much happier forum and build strong bones...

    #1: Search before posting
    Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news. Since there are many many Epic 4g users and you are just now reading this thread, it is highly unlikely that you are the first person to have experience whatever issue/question/thought you may be wanting to post on the forum. Any member who posts an unnecessary thread, or threads which have already been posted before will be warned, and his/her thread will be closed immediately. Repeated offenders will be castrated. If a neutered member commits a third offense, they will likely be shunned.​

    #2: Member conduct
    Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result what is ‘ok’ to say in your part of the world may not be ok in someone else’s part of the world. Please think about who is reading what you write. Keep in mind that what you think of as acceptable use of language may not be acceptable to others. Conversely, while reading member posts, remember that word you find offensive may not be to the writer. Tolerance is a two way street.
    No Nudity: XDA is used by people of all ages, including minors. It's not acceptable to post nude/pornographic imagery, which includes exposure of the male or female genitalia or of female breasts.
    No Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior. Flaming while nude is even worse.
    No Personal attacks, racial, political and/or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive, therefore none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.​

    #3: Do not post warez
    If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.​

    #4: Do not spam
    If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban. You are however allowed to sell used goods like your own device, parts of your device or accessories for your device in the marketplace forum, please read the rules there before posting. (This rule includes signatures, if you use a signature it will appear in your post.)​


    Lesson 3: Searching
    So you've made it to lesson 3. You've spent 10 minutes reading this, and you are still waiting for the interracial midget porn link Bing promised. You have two choices...you can either go back to Google or use XDA's in-forum search.
    1) Use XDA's internal search: http://xdaforums.com/search.php
    Or click here...
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    You can even search just in a particular thread...
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    2) Use google to find your answers: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=304582


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    This is great and thank you for taking your time to educate.

    I'm willing to help and teach others my tricks of the trade but I will not hold your hands. Same goes for alot of other devs. Me personally I spend a couple hours a day on xda trying to help out as much as I can buy it became very repetative to point I'm in s transitanial state of leaving.

    It is just sad that I had to make a thread dating my final good byes and no people are finally working towards a change. lets get this **** organized and it would be a better experience for everyone

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    This is all for you mysteryemotons! When you made your thread saying you were leaving everyone first cried, then began to do anything to get you to stay.

    /sarcasm

    I think your ego is ballooning to dangerous levels. Your contributons are great but the XDA Epic forums do not revolve around you.

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    This is great and thank you for taking your time to educate.

    I'm willing to help and teach others my tricks of the trade but I will not hold your hands. Same goes for alot of other devs. Me personally I spend a couple hours a day on xda trying to help out as much as I can buy it became very repetative to point I'm in s transitanial state of leaving.

    It is just sad that I had to make a thread dating my final good byes and no people are finally working towards a change. lets get this **** organized and it would be a better experience for everyone

    Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

    I feel the same way. I'm more than happy to point people in the right direction, but part of learning how to ride a bike is taking off the training wheels. I do feel like it is the moderators and experienced developers that should be held responsible for giving people the tools they need to to be successful, and making it a good experience. As much as I want to post RTFM and GIYF to pretty much 99% of the posts on here because I know that I could have found it with a clever search query, not everybody has that experience, and people are coming from a lot of different skill levels. If the experienced members don't at least make a token effort to set people up to succeed, then we are just making it hard/frustrating on everyone, including ourselves.
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    I'm new here and i enjoy it. but i have been guilty of posting topic in the wrong tread. all i gota say is.... give me a break. why is every1 sooo upset of noobs and not just ignore them. Should be happy new ppl are checking out XDA and not some other forum. Thnx for makin ppl scared to even ask a question w/o being labeled a noob!
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    I'm new here and i enjoy it. but i have been guilty of posting topic in the wrong tread. all i gota say is.... give me a break. why is every1 sooo upset of noobs and not just ignore them. Should be happy new ppl are checking out XDA and not some other forum. Thnx for makin ppl scared to even ask a question w/o being labeled a noob!

    Couldn't agree more. The threads would be much cleaner if every dumb question wasn't followed by 30 complaints about the dumb question.