[REQ] Can someone Kang us a Gummy?!

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FrankyFiggz27

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i was looking for new roms for my girl's droid 2 global on rootzwiki the other day and found out about these AOSP ICS Gummy Roms. They're made by a pretty reputable team that includes JRummy (maker of the best root app Rom Toolbox) and they seem to piece together the best parts of AOKP, CM9, and MIUI, so I became very interested in getting this ****.

Maybe I'm just out of the loop and it's really popular, but I've seen nothing about it here. Anyway, since they have pretty up-to-date ROMs for the NS4G and more-so the Fascinate, I thought maybe we could get a working version? And I know how epic devs love to give us as many ICS Rom options as possible...

here's the link to the forum that has all the newest Gummy ROM releases - http://rootzwiki.com/forum/406-releases/
 
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Looks cool even the name makes me wanna have it lol I saw its available for the fascinate so that should help.

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haha marcusant i knew you'd jump on this. knowing you we'll have it tomorrow. i'm gunna load it onto the droid 2 global tonight so i'll see if it's really as cool as it sounds.
 
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Hmmm..so I got it running on the droid global. 1st thing you notice? Bootup sound is possibly the most irritating thing I've ever heard in my life. The rom itself is pretty solid though. Very quick..much snappier than aokp on the global. However, customization is not as thorough as I expected. There's actually LESS customizable features than on standard aokp or cm9 w/ reloaded mod..though it DOES have a Wimax toggle, which is cool (but weird since the global does not have wimax), and a few things you can't do on cm9 or aokp. All in all id say it might be worth checking out on the epic since it really is pretty quick and has a wimax toggle, but besides that, little is different from other ics roms.

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If you guys want to run this ROM, you can just copy app and framework from it to cm9 from the fascinate version. However, if you want to not piss off the cm team, it'd probably be best not to release it, since its pretty much stealing their ROM. And don't bite the hand that feeds you.

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xboxfanj said:
If you guys want to run this ROM, you can just copy app and framework from it to cm9 from the fascinate version. However, if you want to not piss off the cm team, it'd probably be best not to release it, since its pretty much stealing their ROM. And don't bite the hand that feeds you.

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isn't that what "open source" is all about? encouraging "stealing" essentially? no one is making money off of "stealing" cm's work or taking money away from the cm team...i don't get it. all this would do is further the experience and provde more options to epic owners.
 
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isn't that what "open source" is all about? encouraging "stealing" essentially? no one is making money off of "stealing" cm's work or taking money away from the cm team...i don't get it. all this would do is further the experience and provde more options to epic owners.
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In my opinion yes, but i'm just speaking from personal experiences. You May want to ask them either on twitter irc or pm.

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ehh whatever. i'm not guna bother doing it. was hoping someone else would.
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I agree with you completely on this. Its the point of open source. Just based on my experiences on porting miui, some of their devs are not too keen on the idea of us copying their files in winzip. Just trying to save you from some of the drama I've faced.


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xboxfanj said:
I agree with you completely on this. Its the point of open source. Just based on my experiences on porting miui, some of their devs are not too keen on the idea of us copying their files in winzip. Just trying to save you from some of the drama I've faced.


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appreciate it. yes i remember them giving you guys ****.
 
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Open source means open source. Everyone (even including the cm team) needs to realize this and get over it. The cm team, or any other dev are by no means required to do this work, as they don't get paid for it. People are not required to pay them for their work, but choose to through donations sometimes. The starters of cm don't whine about people kanging their rom to try to get it working on other devices. It's what we did at first before our cm team was even officially part of cm. No one seems to mind borrowing bits and pieces from other devices, or damn near everything from a source of one original dev who created this and shared it openly, with all, with absolutely no complaints or ****s to give. Just because they've put in so much work on it, they do not own it, and they never have. The only thing that matters is showing respect. Credit to our cm team for porting most/almost all of this, but not without help from many other sources, and the original and also huge contribution from those who started the cm project and have been so selfless and sharing with it.

The point of open source is to not care. To share everything we have freely so that "anything" that is possible can be done. If someone wants to change a framework and some apps, add in some scripts and kernel tweaks, or a custom kernel, call it a rom and release it, they are allowed. That is what every rom before now has been. Android with Samsung's code, with tweaks. No one before now has built an OS for our device completely from the ground up. Everyone acts more high and mighty than they are. The only difference here is that instead of it being the stock software, it's software someone else built, our device's team ported, and now tries to lay claim over.

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I must agree. If some cm team (god love them) members want to cause a ruckus over people sharing with open source, then switch over to improving iphones and their closed source.

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So to go back off topic and throw my two cents in.
I think its more of them wanting people to learn to do it the proper way.
Marcus, for example, did this with MIUI and has continued to do so for a while.
He is rather young just yet, and has a TON of potential to get in and learn the real code.

Smali is machine code. Smali is rather hard to explain, read, and visualize.
Kanging by winzip is damn easy file coping. But if you run into bugs, how do you fix it?
Smali code editing? Copy DIFFERENT files over? That's quite impossible and is harder than it needs to be.

The CM9 Devs, I'm sure, do not give a rats ass what you do with their official .zips.
What they do care about is learning and growing the community.
I feel they gave you both, Marcus and xBox, a hard time because they want you to learn the correct tools and the proper process... Not for them, but for the community and yourselves.

You both get into learning C++, Java, etc... You both will make outstanding Devs. You'll help yourselves, the CM9 team, and the community.

That's my opinion. If its totally off base, oh well. I am not speaking for the team. This has not been discussed with me. I have merely been reading what's been available on the forums. Take it or leave it... They want you to learn :)
 
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    xboxfanj
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    Im almost done with my first source based rom, gummy. Ill test a bit today and possibly post a test rom here before I post it in android development.

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    So to go back off topic and throw my two cents in.
    I think its more of them wanting people to learn to do it the proper way.
    Marcus, for example, did this with MIUI and has continued to do so for a while.
    He is rather young just yet, and has a TON of potential to get in and learn the real code.

    Smali is machine code. Smali is rather hard to explain, read, and visualize.
    Kanging by winzip is damn easy file coping. But if you run into bugs, how do you fix it?
    Smali code editing? Copy DIFFERENT files over? That's quite impossible and is harder than it needs to be.

    The CM9 Devs, I'm sure, do not give a rats ass what you do with their official .zips.
    What they do care about is learning and growing the community.
    I feel they gave you both, Marcus and xBox, a hard time because they want you to learn the correct tools and the proper process... Not for them, but for the community and yourselves.

    You both get into learning C++, Java, etc... You both will make outstanding Devs. You'll help yourselves, the CM9 team, and the community.

    That's my opinion. If its totally off base, oh well. I am not speaking for the team. This has not been discussed with me. I have merely been reading what's been available on the forums. Take it or leave it... They want you to learn :)
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    epicnoob66 said:
    Just wondering if this is still in the works.

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    Yeah. Once school is out I will have more time to work on it.

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    Vizzo
    Open source means open source. Everyone (even including the cm team) needs to realize this and get over it. The cm team, or any other dev are by no means required to do this work, as they don't get paid for it. People are not required to pay them for their work, but choose to through donations sometimes. The starters of cm don't whine about people kanging their rom to try to get it working on other devices. It's what we did at first before our cm team was even officially part of cm. No one seems to mind borrowing bits and pieces from other devices, or damn near everything from a source of one original dev who created this and shared it openly, with all, with absolutely no complaints or ****s to give. Just because they've put in so much work on it, they do not own it, and they never have. The only thing that matters is showing respect. Credit to our cm team for porting most/almost all of this, but not without help from many other sources, and the original and also huge contribution from those who started the cm project and have been so selfless and sharing with it.

    The point of open source is to not care. To share everything we have freely so that "anything" that is possible can be done. If someone wants to change a framework and some apps, add in some scripts and kernel tweaks, or a custom kernel, call it a rom and release it, they are allowed. That is what every rom before now has been. Android with Samsung's code, with tweaks. No one before now has built an OS for our device completely from the ground up. Everyone acts more high and mighty than they are. The only difference here is that instead of it being the stock software, it's software someone else built, our device's team ported, and now tries to lay claim over.

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    Alias8818 said:
    So to go back off topic and throw my two cents in.
    I think its more of them wanting people to learn to do it the proper way.
    Marcus, for example, did this with MIUI and has continued to do so for a while.
    He is rather young just yet, and has a TON of potential to get in and learn the real code.

    Smali is machine code. Smali is rather hard to explain, read, and visualize.
    Kanging by winzip is damn easy file coping. But if you run into bugs, how do you fix it?
    Smali code editing? Copy DIFFERENT files over? That's quite impossible and is harder than it needs to be.

    The CM9 Devs, I'm sure, do not give a rats ass what you do with their official .zips.
    What they do care about is learning and growing the community.
    I feel they gave you both, Marcus and xBox, a hard time because they want you to learn the correct tools and the proper process... Not for them, but for the community and yourselves.

    You both get into learning C++, Java, etc... You both will make outstanding Devs. You'll help yourselves, the CM9 team, and the community.

    That's my opinion. If its totally off base, oh well. I am not speaking for the team. This has not been discussed with me. I have merely been reading what's been available on the forums. Take it or leave it... They want you to learn :)
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    That is very true. Never really thought about it that way. Maybe I'll try to build gummy from source when I have time. Unless there's another ROM people would prefer. I don't have that much time with school and all, so let me know if that's the one you guys want and I'll try to see what I can do. Though speaking for my roms, there's not too much more I can do to try to build from source since sense and miui and blur are closed source.
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