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By Hunt3r.j2, Senior Member on 18th March 2012, 08:36 AM
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20th March 2012, 02:03 PM |#31  
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Cloud storage and sync aren't the way to go because they're not feasible. They're over-reliant on a technology infrastructure that doesn't exist. There is no cloud on the underground, I barely ever get maximum speed from my phone when out and about and it's not feasible for me to leave my WiFi on at all times. I'd much rather have an SD slot be in full control of my data and information locally than be susceptible to the rigmarole of the whims of Dropbox. Let's not forget that Facebook and Google were handing over private data to the FBI before it was even formally or legally requested and yet everyone is supposed to be happy to just leave their stuff anywhere? Nope. No SD Card slot is ridiculous. Especially for a device that was by HTC's own admission designed for the likes of people that hang out on here. Dump the SD card on the lower end phones where people expect the same microSD card they've had for the past 10 years to still be a good shout on the newest shiniest phone available at the time of the contract renewals.
 
 
20th March 2012, 02:42 PM |#32  
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Till I used 16GB sdcard, I was hungry for more space, but once I upgraded to 32gb 6 months back on my HD2, space has been never an issue for me. I keep movies, music and even heavy Gameloft games.

Also I own an ipod touch 4gen 32gb, similarly I have never felt shortage of space on it.. Huge games, movies, music etc are on there.

Looking at this, I feel 32Gb is the sweet space which you can easily get on with. As an advantage I feel better battery backup due to no sd access and faster nand i/o is much much better. Maybe clubbed together with the battery saver processor, this will be one of the best phone with long lasting battery in its club (4.5 inch +)
20th March 2012, 03:40 PM |#33  
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Again, just like in the battery life thread, I have to ask a question because I'm not sure what the answer is: what do you need to have on your phone that can't reside in the cloud?

I mean, let's say that you know you're going to be underground and won't be able to access your cloud storage; could you not just copy what you need (from your PC/cloud/wherever) to phone storage so that you have access to it for the journey, then remove it when you're done?

Or decide which files would be better stored locally (music, movies) and which would be better placed in the cloud (photos, documents)? Or invest in a portable USB storage device?

Sure, no alternative solution to a micro SD slot is perfect but if you want the phone you'll have to suck it up. It's THAT simple!
20th March 2012, 06:25 PM |#34  
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My points.

1) 32G is about OK to many user
(otherwise, all people buying 64G ipxd, of course $ is also a factor)

2) USB On-The-Go (USB OTG) is possible for this device . I think :P
(just like *** Galaxy S2, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJXF5pIITc)
20th March 2012, 06:58 PM |#35  
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Originally Posted by flame10

Till I used 16GB sdcard, I was hungry for more space, but once I upgraded to 32gb 6 months back on my HD2, space has been never an issue for me. I keep movies, music and even heavy Gameloft games.

Also I own an ipod touch 4gen 32gb, similarly I have never felt shortage of space on it.. Huge games, movies, music etc are on there.

You may be underestimating the amount of storage which will be taken by the OS. On my HTC Flyer 16 GB tablet, 3 GB is taken by the OS, and 4 GB partitioned for app data only, leaving less than 9 GB for user accessible storage (media).

If the One X follows similar partitioning (3 GB for OS and 4 GB for app data) that will only leave 25 GB for user accessible storage.

People always seem very disappointed about the actual user accessible storage available on HTC devices ("How come I don't have 32 GB available?"). So make sure you understand what the actual partitioning is before you buy the phone. Especially true in this case, since the storage is not expandable by MicroSD.
20th March 2012, 07:08 PM |#36  
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You may be underestimating the amount of storage which will be taken by the OS. On my HTC Flyer 16 GB tablet, 3 GB is taken by the OS, and 4 GB partitioned for app data only, leaving less than 9 GB for user accessible storage (media).

If the One X follows similar partitioning (3 GB for OS and 4 GB for app data) that will only leave 25 GB for user accessible storage.

People always seem very disappointed about the actual user accessible storage available on HTC devices ("How come I don't have 32 GB available?"). So make sure you understand what the actual partitioning is before you buy the phone. Especially true in this case, since the storage is not expandable by MicroSD.

As far as we know the user accessible storage is 26 GB.

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20th March 2012, 08:17 PM |#37  
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As far as we know the user accessible storage is 26 GB.

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That's still a lot of space for phone storage...think of the small amount of storage people had available on floppy disks and you'll be happy lol

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20th March 2012, 09:14 PM |#38  
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I accept this now. I want good sound quality for lossless so I give up on all in one phones. cowon makes good players if you ignore the android one. only problem I see is where to save 1080p recordings. I guess you buy a camera and get a fanny pack.
20th March 2012, 09:21 PM |#39  
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Posted in wrong thread. Sorry!
20th March 2012, 10:04 PM |#40  
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okay, enough with this embracing the cloud junk. The cloud is slow. I don't want my stuff on some server that I may not be able to access. What happens when someone goes into the subway and they have no data access? What happens when you forget to backup something? Syncing, oh that was turned off to save battery or is off because the user is traveling and doesn't feel like paying $10 per KB while out of the coverage area. Where is your cloud then? I have seen people saved by an SD card when their phone is dropped in water and their contacts/apps were on the card. Whew, don't need to start on level 1 again after all that time playing that game. Don't need to facebook everyone to get their numbers again. That chick you met last night, well her number isn't gone forever now. THAT is something I can embrace. Having to depend on a data connection and a server somewhere... sorry, but hell no. I've been screwed by that one before. I want my stuff here and perhaps an additional copy can be in the cloud.

The cloud is fast via WIFI, the cloud is fast via 4G, the cloud is fast via 3.5G, its more than usable on 3G. How long are you spending in the subway? As I said if your going to be offline then you need to plan for that in advance. You want to listen to music in the subway? You make you current favourite album available offline, you want to read web pages in the subway? you make them available offline before hand. Also really in this modern day and age subways should be providing WIFI or Network access... What happens if you forget to back up something? Don't know what you mean in relation to the subject... If you saving everything onto your SD-Card what happens if it fails? If your device is stolen? If your device corrupts the data? I could argue the same point that I've been saved by having my data in the cloud instead of on my device... as for that chick I met last night (how did you know?) her number is safely in the cloud so even when I leave my phone in the taxi on the way home I can still check it from my PC and call her!

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Cloud storage and sync aren't the way to go because they're not feasible. They're over-reliant on a technology infrastructure that doesn't exist. There is no cloud on the underground, I barely ever get maximum speed from my phone when out and about and it's not feasible for me to leave my WiFi on at all times. I'd much rather have an SD slot be in full control of my data and information locally than be susceptible to the rigmarole of the whims of Dropbox. Let's not forget that Facebook and Google were handing over private data to the FBI before it was even formally or legally requested and yet everyone is supposed to be happy to just leave their stuff anywhere? Nope. No SD Card slot is ridiculous. Especially for a device that was by HTC's own admission designed for the likes of people that hang out on here. Dump the SD card on the lower end phones where people expect the same microSD card they've had for the past 10 years to still be a good shout on the newest shiniest phone available at the time of the contract renewals.

I will admit the infrastructure is lagging behind a little but to say its not feasible is nonsense. People, myself included are using it all the time. Even big corporations are migrating to office365 which is a cloud based solution. The cloud is here, its real and its usable. What information are you wanting to store in the cloud that you don't want the FBI to see? Designed for the likes of people that hang out here? What like me? Who uses the cloud... ah yes your right guess HTC did a good job then!
21st March 2012, 11:46 AM |#41  
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I accept this now. I want good sound quality for lossless so I give up on all in one phones. cowon makes good players if you ignore the android one. only problem I see is where to save 1080p recordings. I guess you buy a camera and get a fanny pack.

Yeah an all in one device is always going to require compromises, if you're serious about music and quality then a separate player is the best option. My Clip+ is tiny, has output that's more than likely better than any phone on the market and can take a microsd card. Coupled with a high end pair of headphones and it's hard to beat. The only thing a phone has going for it is it's one less device to carry around, that's it.
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