Google Android running on the hermes

carcomp · Jun 29, 2008

On a whim I was browsing new posts on the xda forums. it seems that the guys over on the kaiser rom forum have gotten google android to boot on the kaiser. I thought hmmm... the hermes is like the kaiser, lets give it a try. So I installed the HaRET loader, got the 24mb cab file, and the latest zImage and installed it. Followed the instructions and got the hermes booting linux. I thought hey this is easy! next step, ditch WM and go with tux only. Whoops! not so fast. seems that linux won't load past the 'jump to kernel' part. I urge someone else to try this! You really need to install the cab from your sd card, and it eats up all your ram but hey its something new.

btw, use your hermes kb in the complete dark.. your eyes color shift and the buttons take on a red hue. weird. also the forum looks like crap on my hermes. isn't that ironic?

bogoos86 · Jun 29, 2008

carcomp said:
On a whim I was browsing new posts on the xda forums. it seems that the guys over on the kaiser rom forum have gotten google android to boot on the kaiser. I thought hmmm... the hermes is like the kaiser, lets give it a try. So I installed the HaRET loader, got the 24mb cab file, and the latest zImage and installed it. Followed the instructions and got the hermes booting linux. I thought hey this is easy! next step, ditch WM and go with tux only. Whoops! not so fast. seems that linux won't load past the 'jump to kernel' part. I urge someone else to try this! You really need to install the cab from your sd card, and it eats up all your ram but hey its something new.

btw, use your hermes kb in the complete dark.. your eyes color shift and the buttons take on a red hue. weird. also the forum looks like crap on my hermes. isn't that ironic?

can you make an instruction how did you manage to run android on hermes?? some links and screenshots??

thanks

carcomp · Jun 29, 2008

The following is taken from the thread "http://http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396782

Good ROM that boots Google Andoird all the time: [May 22] Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19585 Test Version
Link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=394202

Cab file (Credit goes to: SH4Y):
http://rapidshare.com/files/11262391..._Installer.CAB
http://www.filedropper.com/sh4ysandrioduiinstaller

Latest zImage (Credit goes to: dcordes):
http://xdaforums.com/atta...7&d=1211818766

Latest HaReT:
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET

For more info: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

Booting Google Android
1. Goto: Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Android.
2. Pres: Listen for network connection. Meanwhile also press run (Doing this makes Android boot most of the time).
3. Google Android is now booting or you're Kaise freezes.
4. Have fun or Soft-Reset!
If Android Is Not Booting?!?!? (Even after 20 tries). Run ClearTemp... http://www.4shared.com/file/50007273...ClearTemp.html Then Boot again!!

Menu
At this moment there is no back key mapped. So the only way to get out of the menu is by soft-reset. Ppl are working on this issue, tyring to map de back key.

FREEZES
You are probably using the original zImage of SH4Y'S CAB. Use one of the latest zImages...

All I did was download the files, install the cab, and run HaRET and try to boot. I get the "booting linux" screen and then the linux "boot list" but then it hangs. I'll post a few pictures. My rom doesn't have a screenshot grabber, plus I don't think you can get a screenshot when you aren't even running WM?

Click Here for a way to create a fresh kernel (zImage.bin) which is possibly the fix for the hermes.

Click Here for images of Android running on a TyTN II.

EDIT: Ok so I know why its hanging on the loader... The kernel is compiled for the wrong processor. The vogue uses a different processor than the hermes. Working on this.

cr2 · Jun 29, 2008

carcomp said:
Whoops! not so fast.

The phone power, reset and AT CMD serial port settings are missing
in the hh.org CVS kernel. It's not very difficult to do, but nobody
has done it so far.

galaxys · Jun 29, 2008

Interesting...Here's the original hermes discussion thread on linux (over 100 posts):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=273579&page=5&highlight=Android

jompao · Jun 30, 2008

Looks very cool, but I guess a long way before it will work with all hardware like, radio, wifi, bt etc?

Perhaps I hang on to my Hermes for a while to run Android!

brandenk · Jun 30, 2008

jompao said:
Looks very cool, but I guess a long way before it will work with all hardware like, radio, wifi, bt etc?

Perhaps I hang on to my Hermes for a while to run Android!

Honestly I was thinking of jumping ships to either an iphone or a clone but I think I may wait a year and see what happens to the hermes with android. It would be nice to get it and play with it for a while so in a year I will know exactly what I want to buy and the market will have settled down a little bit.

sniveri · Jul 5, 2008

I have compiled new zImage and HaRET. In default.txt I have lines:

Code:

set kernel zImage
set initrd initrd-android
set cmdline "root=/dev/ram0"
boot

I loaded newest initrd-android from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

With these settings Hermes boots and it even set system clock (2028-07-05 10:40:21

) but hangs after that, HaRet says in last line: "Freeing init memory 88k" and thats it. The initrd-android is not for Hermes and I don`t know how to make new one for Hermes. Or is this memory freeing thing more about problems with zImage?

TripleQ · Jul 5, 2008

Did you compiled it with the HTC HERMES flag?
Maybe you can upload the zimage/Harret to your post? sow more people can play with it... would be cool.

I also tried to compile a new zimage...it compiled, but it stucked at booting it with Harret. "Load kernel image" (or something like that)

sniveri · Jul 6, 2008

Here it is. I used branch "work" and from there you can found htchermes_defconfig.

TripleQ · Jul 6, 2008

Thx..

I have the same issue as you have

But it dont give any error messages...and some key's on the keyboard(buttons) still give some respons on the screen...

And when you boot it with the usb connector with it, it says something more about that conexxion..

ziadd · Jul 21, 2008

carcomp said:
The following is taken from the thread "http://http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396782

All I did was download the files, install the cab, and run HaRET and try to boot. I get the "booting linux" screen and then the linux "boot list" but then it hangs. I'll post a few pictures. My rom doesn't have a screenshot grabber, plus I don't think you can get a screenshot when you aren't even running WM?

Click Here for a way to create a fresh kernel (zImage.bin) which is possibly the fix for the hermes.

Click Here for images of Android running on a TyTN II.

EDIT: Ok so I know why its hanging on the loader... The kernel is compiled for the wrong processor. The vogue uses a different processor than the hermes. Working on this.

I can't even run haret.exe (the android entry in Accessories). It says it's not a valid Pocket PC application. Any ideas??

I'm running CRC's WM6.1 v11.0.

andrex17 · Aug 22, 2008

Android Running on HTC Hermes

Hi guys, I've two days trying to run android on my htc herm100 but I can't do it. Someome may help me to compile a new kernel whit the features of my htc?? The only thing that i did was run linux on my device.

GldRush98 · Aug 22, 2008

lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.

veyka · Aug 22, 2008

GldRush98 said:
lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.

People said that about WM6.1 on many phones, and its been ported all the way back to the BlueAngel

GldRush98 · Aug 22, 2008

veyka said:
People said that about WM6.1 on many phones, and its been ported all the way back to the BlueAngel

dude...
It's not a simple matter or using the right version of this or that, or configuring it a certain way.
Haret will never run on the Hermes, making it impossible to ever run Android.
Hermes hardware is too old and too slow to run Andriod.
Haret can't even access the sd-card. Even if some how, some one re coded haret with the proper driver (which will not happen), there are still 100 other hurdles to over-come. They would have to get the graphics acceleration working with the ATI chip, Wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers, etc... not to mention the actual instructions set of Andriod won't even run on the processor in the Hermes.

It will never run on the Hermes.
If you want to run Andriod, you should buy a device that supports it. Hermes will never be one of them.

veyka · Aug 22, 2008

GldRush98 said:
dude...
It's not a simple matter or using the right version of this or that, or configuring it a certain way.
Haret will never run on the Hermes, making it impossible to ever run Android.
Hermes hardware is too old and too slow to run Andriod.
Haret can't even access the sd-card. Even if some how, some one re coded haret with the proper driver (which will not happen), there are still 100 other hurdles to over-come. They would have to get the graphics acceleration working with the ATI chip, Wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers, etc... not to mention the actual instructions set of Andriod won't even run on the processor in the Hermes.

It will never run on the Hermes.
If you want to run Andriod, you should buy a device that supports it. Hermes will never be one of them.

Ahh! Seems you know more about it than I do ^^ Well, I dont expect my Hermes to, but hopefully my Kaiser

sniveri · Aug 30, 2008

GldRush98 said:
Haret will never run on the Hermes

what do you mean when you say that? I have used Haret on Hermes.

lonertic · Aug 31, 2008

GldRush98 said:
lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.

is this some kind of a subliminal reverse-psychology message designed to challenge some dormant genius out there to waste a coupla month of his life to prove u wrong for the benefit of everyone else here at xda-dev?!

... if so, keep it up.. I hope such genius(es) picks up this post and gets all fired up and go "HOW DARE HE! I'LL SHOW HIM"... then.. *tick...tick...tick*.....*ping!*...

oh and while ur at it... Android will NEVER run on the Trinity either!!!

scholbert · Sep 1, 2008

Funny thing....

Hi there,

it's getting funny how many poeple out there discuss the android on hermes issue.
Basically it's not the speed of MPU or a memory issue on hermes platform.
I'm quite sure that android would do it quite well on a machine with 400MHz and 64MB of RAM

.

Android in fact has another important basic requirement:
It will require at least Xscale CPU or SoC with ARM926 or higher to run properly.

All binaries in the root filesystem of android are compiled to run on an ARM platform with at least V5 instruction set.
Some older devices use some kind of PXA SoC's or OMAP SoC's which talk V5.
That's why android may be ported to run on those

.

Hermes uses ARM920T SoC with ARMv4 instruction set, so a standard Android root image will not work.
That's the reason why it will be very evil thing to make it ever run on the hermes platfrom.

Someone has to fix all parts of the source code that requires V5 instructions and do a complete compile of all binaries suitable for V4 command set.

Of course to do all this a nearly complete linux subset is needed too.
As already mentioned the kernel for hermes is far away from some kind of usability

.

Nevertheless, it would be very cool to get any kind of linux run nicely on hermes. Please help out with reverse engineering and writing drivers to make this come true. Perhaps also other dreams may become reality this way

Best regards,

scholbert

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