Android 2.3+ on NST and NSTG: Still A Dream!

idoit · Nov 1, 2013

[NEVERMIND] Ignore this thread as the new Nook glowlight still uses Android 2.1. Sigh! Look here: http://www.the-digital-reader.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/BN-NOOK-Comparison-Chart.pdf

So with the new Nook 2013, simply called Nook Glowlight, it seems the hardware specs have not changed other than better eInk resolution and 4GB internal memory. Yet, as it's running Android 2.3 (reconfirmed by a comment yesterday by Michael*), it gives us hope that once we get our hands on it, we'll be able to port it to the older models.

Personally, I think this is absolutely possible, it's just a matter of time.

*Source: http://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/hands-on-with-the-new-barnes-and-noble-nook-with-glowlight-2013

Renate · Nov 1, 2013

We'll have to see how easy it will be to root it.
Without a microSD slot one avenue is cut off.

4GB is not bad, allocating only 0.5G for sideload is limiting.

idoit · Nov 1, 2013

Renate NST said:
We'll have to see how easy it will be to root it.
Without a microSD slot one avenue is cut off.

4GB is not bad, allocating only 0.5G for sideload is limiting.

Well, seems guys at Goodereader.com were wrong. As you can see, the new NG is reported to still run on Android 2.1. One thing which makes me question the validity of this piece of information (even on B&N's own website) is that on the same page (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/Compare-NOOKs/379003181/), the CPU for NST is mentioned as to be 600Mhz!!!!! So, this info might be misleading. We have to see, I hope it's 2.3, but unlikely.

dombeef · Nov 1, 2013

Wouldnt this thread be better suited for the Nook Touch General Sub Forum? Or at the least can you change the title of the thread?

idoit · Nov 3, 2013

dombeef said:
Wouldnt this thread be better suited for the Nook Touch General Sub Forum? Or at the least can you change the title of the thread?

I changed the title, as it was not right; I was mislead by the blog mentioned above that seems authoritative in eBooks, oh well...

On a side note, this corner (Nook Development) and in fact the whole Nook forum is so quiet compared to Kindle forum!!! I didn't expect this.

idoit · Nov 6, 2013

idoit said:
I changed the title, as it was not right; I was mislead by the blog mentioned above that seems authoritative in eBooks, oh well...

On a side note, this corner (Nook Development) and in fact the whole Nook forum is so quiet compared to Kindle forum!!! I didn't expect this.

I'm eagerly waiting for exposure of Nook Glowlight's source code! It's version 1.3:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/software-updates-nook-glowlight/379004086

marcovrv · Nov 9, 2013

idoit said:
I'm eagerly waiting for exposure of Nook Glowlight's source code! It's version 1.3:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/software-updates-nook-glowlight/379004086

The 1.3 version seems to be for a different device (Nook Glowlight), the Nook Simple Touch Glowlight remains on 1.2.1. That said, it would be interesting to see how different is the hardware among them.

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straygecko · Nov 15, 2013

idoit said:
I'm eagerly waiting for exposure of Nook Glowlight's source code! It's version 1.3:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/software-updates-nook-glowlight/379004086

B&N has published the GPL source. Looks like Eclair (Android 2.1) webkit. Still no firmware I can find. Probably won't see it until they release the first update to the Glowlight or a new owner figures out how to pull the factory.zip off their new Glowlight.

http://img1.imagesbn.com/pImages/nook/nook08/source-code/nook_glowlight_1_3_0.tgz

aiamuzz · Jun 16, 2014

Wondering Why !!!

Hi,

I couldn't be more happier with my NST with Glowlight.
running 1.2.1 with both multitouch and norefresh hacks running great.

One thing i miss is offline news apps. like the one BBC has going which luckily runs on Android 2.1
but the bulk of offline news apps and many other great reading centric apps are on Android 2.2 and higher

I have been ever so hoping badly on why an Android 2.3 hasn't been a possibility on our NST & NST with glowlight.

I have seen much more bigger challenges accomplished on our NST's with G included.

marspeople, renate, and many more... are all over the NST landscape hacking away and increasing value of our NST's(with the dictionaries added, eink specific handwriting apps, norefresh app, multitouch cracks, kernel mods to unlock other value ... and the latest to the list is Renate's Reader app)

Inspite of all this talent, a shot for cm7 or an android 2.3 or even 2.2 hasn't been attempted.

I am assuming there is something that just doesn't add up ... to make such an attempt worthwhile.

Can Renate or anybody else list out a detailed description on why a custom ROM 2.2 or 2.3(preferably) is so undeserving of our NST's with Glowlight included.

really like to see that DEAD-END ... if there's one ... a very large part of me hoping badly that there isn't one !!!

and we can really live up to see a cm7 for NST & NST with G one day.

Cheers.

dorfd1 · Jun 17, 2014

We need a cm compatible device tree, the kernel needs to be modified to boot cm. Would it be better to first attempt to port cm5 since it is based on android 2.1?

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mobamoba · Jun 17, 2014

Maybe this person's still working on it? http://nooktouchasitshouldbe.blogspot.com/

aiamuzz · Jun 17, 2014

mobamoba said:
Maybe this person's still working on it? http://nooktouchasitshouldbe.blogspot.com/

Last post back in february ...

Hoping to hear from Renate ... when it comes to NST & NSTG ... renate could be considered the 'SubjectMatterExpert' ... she is in all threads for this devices ... expecting a detailed post on this topic ...

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Renate · Jun 17, 2014

Gosh!

The Nook is a bit underpowered and doesn't have a lot of RAM.
It would take a bunch of effort to even increment up a few versions of Android.
Add to that is the fact that the best apps are eInk-aware.

I think it's better to decide which apps you want to use on the Nook and adapt/modify those.

Besides, even the apps that support 2.3 will be expiring soon.

dorfd1 · Jun 18, 2014

Renate NST said:
Gosh!

The Nook is a bit underpowered and doesn't have a lot of RAM.
It would take a bunch of effort to even increment up a few versions of Android.
Add to that is the fact that the best apps are eInk-aware.

I think it's better to decide which apps you want to use on the Nook and adapt/modify those.

Besides, even the apps that support 2.3 will be expiring soon.

What do you mean by expiring?

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Renate · Jun 18, 2014

Well, I looked at the statistics here: http://www.appbrain.com/stats/top-android-sdk-versions
I was surprised to see that Gingerbread (2.3) is still running almost 13% of market share.

I just think that this share will continue to drop and apps will start bypassing that version in their development.

spaboleo · Aug 12, 2014

What is actually the issue with running a newer version of Android on the Nook?

OverByter · Aug 13, 2014

spaboleo said:
What is actually the issue with running a newer version of Android on the Nook?

In a word: drivers. Each new version of Android requires rewritten drivers, without source code this is next to impossible, now you know why your carrier doesn't just push updates when they become available.
OB

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NOOK!E · Aug 14, 2014

OverByter said:
In a word: drivers. Each new version of Android requires rewritten drivers, without source code this is next to impossible, now you know why your carrier doesn't just push updates when they become available.
OB

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Darn shame. 2.3 would be so nice for my NSTG - not that 2.1 isn't perfectly fine, though!

spaboleo · Aug 16, 2014

thenookieforlife3 said:
Darn shame. 2.3 would be so nice for my NSTG - not that 2.1 isn't perfectly fine, though!

To be honest...a lot of developers have given up support for 2.1, as the market share is diminishing and it doesn't make sense to put the effort in to maintain compatibility

I would love to use moon+ or Google Books on my NSTG :/

Or a newer version of Pocket that is not that painful to use...

NOOK!E · Aug 16, 2014

spaboleo said:
To be honest...a lot of developers have given up support for 2.1, as the market share is diminishing and it doesn't make sense to put the effort in to maintain compatibility

I would love to use moon+ or Google Books on my NSTG :/

Or a newer version of Pocket that is not that painful to use...

Huh. How can developers give up support for an android version which is the only one available for our device?

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