Touchwiz 4.3 (VRUCML1/NC1) update discussion thread

saldomontoya · Dec 19, 2013

prdog1 said:
Take that update and you will be on it for eternity. No unlock and no Odin back.

I kind of figured that. I am running CM 11 and loving it way too much. I don't even know what is even different on the TW 4.3 that would warrant me to go back to stock and lock my bootloader up (more than likely permanently) and then more than likely be disappointed and want to root anyway. Guess I can wait to see if something happens and, if not, no big deal to me. Just would be nice to try it out without being locked in. GO BIG RED!

prdog1 · Dec 19, 2013

kirkwoodlucas said:
You guys who said you use SwiftKey.. I love this new beta... Is there a way to get different themes? I tried, and it gave me some apktool this apktool that but no explanation how to use it..

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Can't get themes except the one's that are included with Swiftkey or Swype. They are considered Warez on XDA and are banned as they are 3rd party paid apps. You need ApkTool, 7-zip and and a png editor such as Gimp to theme yourself. Lots of reading and practice. lol

zachf714 · Dec 19, 2013

mitchwtn said:
I'm not sure the percentages, but I think a lot of us just want the guts because they'll help things on cm and other roms.

That's what myself mastamoon Chris and I'm sure snoop want.... We want to see if we can use the ril blobs in the new update with our kernel (our kernel is nothing like Sammy s kernel anymore)

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prdog1 said:
Can't get themes except the one's that are included with Swiftkey or Swype. They are considered Warez on XDA and are banned as they are 3rd party paid apps. You need ApkTool, 7-zip and and a png editor such as Gimp to theme yourself. Lots of reading and practice. lol

I think there are themes in gplay but I may be wrong =)

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kude87 · Dec 19, 2013

kirkwoodlucas said:
I'm telling you. I'm on the official cm11 nightlies,, and I have just as good signal, and even better battery then touch wiz.

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Trust me, I've basically tried every CM 11 and even 4.3 with the qril merges....just doesn't handle data handoffs as well. Not taking anything away from any devs at all, they are all wonderful at what they do. But, I work in low signal areas and in university buildings. The signals change from none, to 1x, 3g, 4G quite often. It is definitely noticeable for me. Also, the camera is always going to be worse than the TW one. However, if was consistently in good signal and didn't really use my camera a lot, I'd have no reason to be on TW.

strive53 · Dec 19, 2013

Think everyone probably should just wait it out and let the devs work. I have a sprint s4 with the latest modem and running gummy. I did not flash the bootloader. Also I did my buddies sprint s3 when his update came out. Flashed modem and a stock rooted 4.3 ROM without the Knox boot loader. He couldn't b happier. I'm sure in a day or two there will b a way to just flash modem and ROM and leave out boot loader...

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jmz768 · Dec 19, 2013

Am I missing something, or is there no way to adjust the position of the clock on the lock screen? Before the update, my clock was centered, but now it on the left side and it's freaking me the hell out. AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

SlimSnoopOS · Dec 19, 2013

zachf714 said:
Yep I'm usually on aosp(hell my Inc is on Kitkat lol) but vzw is blowing the physical fuse in the processor like they did on the S4 known as the qfuse(qualcomm fuse) to keep us from installing unsigned firmware.. Basically once blown the trust zone makes a check to see if there is unsigned firmware on the device and if there is it just won't boot.. Vzw says it's because it costs them money having to fix bricked phones but really a majority of the bricks are caused by them.. Glad I got that out of the way =)

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Ahh see THIS is more like it lol No other carrier is doing that? I heard rumors of AT&T being more adamant about locking down phones as well. Kinda wondered if their S3/S4 update had the same thing going on as well as ours. Probably isn't the case though is it?

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zachf714 · Dec 19, 2013

SlimSnoopOS said:
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Ahh see THIS is more like it lol No other carrier is doing that? I heard rumors of AT&T being more adamant about locking down phones as well. Kinda wondered if their S3/S4 update had the same thing going on as well as ours. Probably isn't the case though is it?

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I think att left their s3 open as a "let's not pissoff all of our customers" thing but yeah we are going to be like the note 3 and s4 now unless someone can find an open vulnerable hole in the trustzone

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prdog1 · Dec 19, 2013

SlimSnoopOS said:
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Ahh see THIS is more like it lol No other carrier is doing that? I heard rumors of AT&T being more adamant about locking down phones as well. Kinda wondered if their S3/S4 update had the same thing going on as well as ours. Probably isn't the case though is it?

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Think Loserskater has ATT bootloader separated out also. Think thatis where I saw about TrustZone check also.

CisternaChyli · Dec 19, 2013

prdog1 said:
Think Loserskater has ATT bootloader separated out also. Think thatis where I saw about TrustZone check also.

lets just hope the same can be done for us. Stupid Verizon locking everything down...whats the point of Android then; i might as well get an iPhone or whatever

SlimSnoopOS · Dec 19, 2013

zachf714 said:
I think att left their s3 open as a "let's not pissoff all of our customers" thing but yeah we are going to be like the note 3 and s4 now unless someone can find an open vulnerable hole in the trustzone

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Should be fun times

prdog1 said:
Think Loserskater has ATT bootloader separated out also. Think thatis where I saw about TrustZone check also.

Yea I'm actually looking at one of his threads here. Probably isn't the same one you're referring to, but its all good.

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CisternaChyli said:
lets just hope the same can be done for us. Stupid Verizon locking everything down...whats the point of Android then; i might as well get an iPhone or whatever

OR stick with Nexus/GPe lineup and cruise control with quick updates and AOSP at its finest.

prdog1 · Dec 19, 2013

SlimSnoopOS said:
Should be fun times

Yea I'm actually looking at one of his threads here. Probably isn't the same one you're referring to, but its all good.

He actually did the leak first. I haven't looked at the OTA thread. We couldn't theme most the leak apks because the resources weren't complete and couldn't recompile.

Edit: That is the same thread.

CisternaChyli · Dec 19, 2013

SlimSnoopOS said:
Should be fun times

Yea I'm actually looking at one of his threads here. Probably isn't the same one you're referring to, but its all good.

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OR stick with Nexus/GPe lineup and cruise control with quick updates and AOSP at its finest.

i'll probably switch to HTC when my upgrade is due in April. At least with HTC all this bootloader nonsense can be defeated and they dont have any KNOX type of features.

tsachi · Dec 19, 2013

zachf714 said:
Yep I'm usually on aosp(hell my Inc is on Kitkat lol) but vzw is blowing the physical fuse in the processor like they did on the S4 known as the qfuse(qualcomm fuse) to keep us from installing unsigned firmware.. Basically once blown the trust zone makes a check to see if there is unsigned firmware on the device and if there is it just won't boot.. Vzw says it's because it costs them money having to fix bricked phones but really a majority of the bricks are caused by them.. Glad I got that out of the way =)

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Unfortunately, it's not enough for them to have a Knox type fuse that kills warranty, they brick the phone for you.

arh2o · Dec 19, 2013

Can anyone at least pull the LTE and CDMA radios? For the AOSP crowd, that's what's most interesting about the update.

Nozzles Brewin · Dec 19, 2013

I personally like that texts show up in my lock screen now. I also like the transparent notification bar. Overall I'm happy with it, I lost root but I'm ok with that for now.

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zachf714 · Dec 19, 2013

tsachi said:
Unfortunately, it's not enough for them to have a Knox type fuse that kills warranty, they brick the phone for you.

Yeah that's verizon for you... In all seriousness the only reason the qfuse is in the phone to begin with is so if you have a phone like for say a consumer sprint motox and unlock the bootloader via motos site then brick later they don't have to fix it

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kieso · Dec 19, 2013

Bobby_C said:
Pretty much. I tried to update and it failed. I'm rooted on stock TW and unlocked. Tried a few things and I can't even get back to a stock unrooted rom

I guess I'll wait for a rooted rom.

I'm in the same boat as you. Error 7 and something about accuweather.odex missing. So I flashed an odexed version and now it says build.prop is wrong

tsachi · Dec 19, 2013

I think I'll try to install the update and run safe root. From the s4 site it seems like it will either work or not, but won't break anything.
I like tw, so it's not a big deal for me to stay on stock for a little.

mudsam · Dec 19, 2013

It works. Just did it.

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